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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:21 pm 
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dumbas is bragging about saving $1B on the embassy... won't take responsibility when it gets attacked and the reports indicate the attack happened because the defenses weren't strong enough

Not like we already have proof of concept on this one.
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From before the riots today:

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... -1.6078410

"On Sunday, Hamas posted pictures and maps on social media showing the shortest routes from the border fence to nearby Israeli communities should any demonstrators make it through."



Now tell me, why did Hamas do that? Were they sending people to Israeli communities to greet them with flowers?

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I provided the quote in question, but incognito mode if you want to read the rest


Is this being reported anywhere else?

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Terrorists tried to breach the green line. Even those demanding that Israel return to 1967 borders recognize the the green line. If you don't defend Israel holding the line there, then you simply don't believe Israel has a right to defend any line. Heck, even Oslo gave Israel the right to make that section a no-go zone.

It was no secret what the intent was here. Hamas had distributed maps in case they broke through so that they could find the nearest Israeli communities to the fence.

Fun fact, but Palestinians are now complaining about a lack of cooking oil. The reason for he shortage? During their last 2 "protests" they set fire to the pipes at the Kerem Shalom crossing, which is where their supply comes from.



Yet if Law enforcement in this country behaved in exactly the same fashion you'd be screaming bloody fucking murder. You don't see the logical inconsistencies found in such viewpoints?

Law enforcement shoots people who are not committing crimes or are not presenting a threat. The people at the border shot today were trying to invade a sovereign nation through an internationally recognized (via Oslo) closed security zone with the clear stated goal of attacking Israeli civilians once the border was breached.

Seriously, LTG, you are 100% fucking clueless on Israel and really should retire from these discussions



You would prefer that I do because I often times (such as now) point out the hypocritical positions that you take on such matters. In addition you often times cite all of the instances in which threats were made against Israelis. How hard do you think it would it would be for me to find similar instances in which threats were made by Israeli leadership against other groups?


Also what you have demonstrated in each of these instances is that you are nothing more than a run of the mill apologist for the Israeli state. There was never a doubt as to how you would begin to place convenient spin on what others perceived to be murder.

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Saying that murdering Arabs is...ya know... murder is anti-Semitic. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Jbi11s wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
From before the riots today:

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... -1.6078410

"On Sunday, Hamas posted pictures and maps on social media showing the shortest routes from the border fence to nearby Israeli communities should any demonstrators make it through."



Now tell me, why did Hamas do that? Were they sending people to Israeli communities to greet them with flowers?

Uh... There's a paywall.

I provided the quote in question, but incognito mode if you want to read the rest


Is this being reported anywhere else?

reported here as well:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 50511.html

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Why were they protesting?

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Saying that murdering Arabs is...ya know... murder is anti-Semitic. You should be ashamed of yourselves.


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When are we gonna start sniping ms-13, drug mules, and cartel members crossing the border?

That would be justified, right?

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long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terrorists tried to breach the green line. Even those demanding that Israel return to 1967 borders recognize the the green line. If you don't defend Israel holding the line there, then you simply don't believe Israel has a right to defend any line. Heck, even Oslo gave Israel the right to make that section a no-go zone.

It was no secret what the intent was here. Hamas had distributed maps in case they broke through so that they could find the nearest Israeli communities to the fence.

Fun fact, but Palestinians are now complaining about a lack of cooking oil. The reason for he shortage? During their last 2 "protests" they set fire to the pipes at the Kerem Shalom crossing, which is where their supply comes from.



Yet if Law enforcement in this country behaved in exactly the same fashion you'd be screaming bloody fucking murder. You don't see the logical inconsistencies found in such viewpoints?

Law enforcement shoots people who are not committing crimes or are not presenting a threat. The people at the border shot today were trying to invade a sovereign nation through an internationally recognized (via Oslo) closed security zone with the clear stated goal of attacking Israeli civilians once the border was breached.

Seriously, LTG, you are 100% fucking clueless on Israel and really should retire from these discussions



You would prefer that I do because I often times (such as now) point out the hypocritical positions that you take on such matters. In addition you often times cite all of the instances in which threats were made against Israelis. How hard do you think it would it would be for me to find similar instances in which threats were made by Israeli leadership against other groups?


Also what you have demonstrated in each of these instances is that you are nothing more than a run of the mill apologist for the Israeli state. There was never a doubt as to how you would begin to place convenient spin on what others perceived to be murder.

2 paragraphs of text and not a single answer to any of the specific points I brought up about the situation on that specific border. This is not a protest, it's an attempted invasion of a sovereign nation. Try again LTG, or just stick to the Trump threads.

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Yeah this discussion will probably be resolved quickly.

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Yeah this discussion will probably be resolved quickly.


I think we're really close this time.

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Yeah this discussion will probably be resolved quickly.


I think we're really close this time.

You could call it a conversion.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terrorists tried to breach the green line. Even those demanding that Israel return to 1967 borders recognize the the green line. If you don't defend Israel holding the line there, then you simply don't believe Israel has a right to defend any line. Heck, even Oslo gave Israel the right to make that section a no-go zone.

It was no secret what the intent was here. Hamas had distributed maps in case they broke through so that they could find the nearest Israeli communities to the fence.

Fun fact, but Palestinians are now complaining about a lack of cooking oil. The reason for he shortage? During their last 2 "protests" they set fire to the pipes at the Kerem Shalom crossing, which is where their supply comes from.



Yet if Law enforcement in this country behaved in exactly the same fashion you'd be screaming bloody fucking murder. You don't see the logical inconsistencies found in such viewpoints?

Law enforcement shoots people who are not committing crimes or are not presenting a threat. The people at the border shot today were trying to invade a sovereign nation through an internationally recognized (via Oslo) closed security zone with the clear stated goal of attacking Israeli civilians once the border was breached.

Seriously, LTG, you are 100% fucking clueless on Israel and really should retire from these discussions



You would prefer that I do because I often times (such as now) point out the hypocritical positions that you take on such matters. In addition you often times cite all of the instances in which threats were made against Israelis. How hard do you think it would it would be for me to find similar instances in which threats were made by Israeli leadership against other groups?


Also what you have demonstrated in each of these instances is that you are nothing more than a run of the mill apologist for the Israeli state. There was never a doubt as to how you would begin to place convenient spin on what others perceived to be murder.

2 paragraphs of text and not a single answer to any of the specific points I brought up about the situation on that specific border. This is not a protest, it's an attempted invasion of a sovereign nation. Try again LTG, or just stick to the Trump threads.



Do we have any info as to the weaponry that they were going to use for said "attacks"? Or will mere Palestinian boots on the ground suffice?

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Yeah this discussion will probably be resolved quickly.


I think we're really close this time.

You could call it a conversion.


Mazel Tov!

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Terrorists tried to breach the green line. Even those demanding that Israel return to 1967 borders recognize the the green line. If you don't defend Israel holding the line there, then you simply don't believe Israel has a right to defend any line. Heck, even Oslo gave Israel the right to make that section a no-go zone.

It was no secret what the intent was here. Hamas had distributed maps in case they broke through so that they could find the nearest Israeli communities to the fence.

Fun fact, but Palestinians are now complaining about a lack of cooking oil. The reason for he shortage? During their last 2 "protests" they set fire to the pipes at the Kerem Shalom crossing, which is where their supply comes from.



Yet if Law enforcement in this country behaved in exactly the same fashion you'd be screaming bloody fucking murder. You don't see the logical inconsistencies found in such viewpoints?

Law enforcement shoots people who are not committing crimes or are not presenting a threat. The people at the border shot today were trying to invade a sovereign nation through an internationally recognized (via Oslo) closed security zone with the clear stated goal of attacking Israeli civilians once the border was breached.

Seriously, LTG, you are 100% fucking clueless on Israel and really should retire from these discussions



You would prefer that I do because I often times (such as now) point out the hypocritical positions that you take on such matters. In addition you often times cite all of the instances in which threats were made against Israelis. How hard do you think it would it would be for me to find similar instances in which threats were made by Israeli leadership against other groups?


Also what you have demonstrated in each of these instances is that you are nothing more than a run of the mill apologist for the Israeli state. There was never a doubt as to how you would begin to place convenient spin on what others perceived to be murder.

2 paragraphs of text and not a single answer to any of the specific points I brought up about the situation on that specific border. This is not a protest, it's an attempted invasion of a sovereign nation. Try again LTG, or just stick to the Trump threads.



Do we have any info as to the weaponry that they were going to use for said "attacks"? Or will mere Palestinian boots on the ground suffice?

IEDs, molotovs, knives, small arms, etc. There were 100,000 people amassed at the border, so had they broken through, they could've killed countless people at the communities Hamas directed them towards. Go ahead and ignore that though.

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Honestly, if this board is any indication of American viewpoints, seems like it's mainly the Jewish people and high class whites who give a fuck about Israeli news.

For the record I usually use CFMB to cultivate all my cultural viewpoints.

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Lot of halal shitposting from Terry's Peeps.


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Maybe they'd be less jumpy if they weren't shooting people who didn't think they had a right to exist...

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Yeah this discussion will probably be resolved quickly.


I think we're really close this time.


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It was no secret what the intent was here. Hamas had distributed maps in case they broke through so that they could find the nearest Israeli communities to the fence.

Fun fact, but Palestinians are now complaining about a lack of cooking oil. The reason for he shortage? During their last 2 "protests" they set fire to the pipes at the Kerem Shalom crossing, which is where their supply comes from.



Yet if Law enforcement in this country behaved in exactly the same fashion you'd be screaming bloody fucking murder. You don't see the logical inconsistencies found in such viewpoints?

Law enforcement shoots people who are not committing crimes or are not presenting a threat. The people at the border shot today were trying to invade a sovereign nation through an internationally recognized (via Oslo) closed security zone with the clear stated goal of attacking Israeli civilians once the border was breached.

Seriously, LTG, you are 100% fucking clueless on Israel and really should retire from these discussions



You would prefer that I do because I often times (such as now) point out the hypocritical positions that you take on such matters. In addition you often times cite all of the instances in which threats were made against Israelis. How hard do you think it would it would be for me to find similar instances in which threats were made by Israeli leadership against other groups?


Also what you have demonstrated in each of these instances is that you are nothing more than a run of the mill apologist for the Israeli state. There was never a doubt as to how you would begin to place convenient spin on what others perceived to be murder.

2 paragraphs of text and not a single answer to any of the specific points I brought up about the situation on that specific border. This is not a protest, it's an attempted invasion of a sovereign nation. Try again LTG, or just stick to the Trump threads.



Do we have any info as to the weaponry that they were going to use for said "attacks"? Or will mere Palestinian boots on the ground suffice?

IEDs, molotovs, knives, small arms, etc. There were 100,000 people amassed at the border, so had they broken through, they could've killed countless people at the communities Hamas directed them towards. Go ahead and ignore that though.[/quote]


Straight from the mouth of one of the leading mouthpieces for Israeli propaganda to Ogie's ears apparently.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-gears ... -israelis/

Almost verbatim.

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Straight from the mouth of one of the leading mouthpieces for Israeli propaganda to Ogie's ears apparently.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-gears ... -israelis/

Almost verbatim.

You still have not addressed a single thing said. Go ahead LTG, try.

Also, you are ignoring the fact Hamas openly was calling for the "protesters" to do just that.

LTG, have you said a single constructive thing in this thread?

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Terrorists tried to breach the green line. Even those demanding that Israel return to 1967 borders recognize the the green line. If you don't defend Israel holding the line there, then you simply don't believe Israel has a right to defend any line. Heck, even Oslo gave Israel the right to make that section a no-go zone.

It was no secret what the intent was here. Hamas had distributed maps in case they broke through so that they could find the nearest Israeli communities to the fence.


NOT THE GREEN LINE!!!!

OH MY GOD!!!!!


If they breach the Green Line, everything and everyone south of Grand might just as will stick their heads between their knees and kiss their asses goodbye.

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From JPost which hates Bibi and The Duck and all people to the right of Bernie Sanders:

Some 40,000 Palestinians took part in violent demonstrations at 13 different locations along the fence, throwing stones, explosive devices and Molotov cocktails at the fence and IDF troops, as well as burning tires and launching burning objects such as kites with charcoal or containers of burning fuel with the intention of setting fires in Israeli fields, the IDF said.

There were 25 kites flown over the course of the day, 17 of which had incendiary materials, causing 23 to set fire to a field before being extinguished by firefighting teams deployed to the area. More than 4,000 dunams of agricultural fields have been burned by such devices in the past month, an official from the Keren Kayemeth LeIsrael-Jewish National Fund told The Jerusalem Post.

Early on Monday, an IDF quadcopter, a drone with four rotors, was shot down near Jabaliya, in the northern Gaza Strip, leading the IDF to fire gas grenades and warning shots at protesters.

Amnesty International said the IDF response was deplorable.

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Straight from the mouth of one of the leading mouthpieces for Israeli propaganda to Ogie's ears apparently.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-gears ... -israelis/

Almost verbatim.

You still have not addressed a single thing said. Go ahead LTG, try.

Also, you are ignoring the fact Hamas openly was calling for the "protesters" to do just that.

LTG, have you said a single constructive thing in this thread?



Yes in fact. What is very apparent is that you take hypocritical positions when it comes to this. You are quite comfortable with Israeli officials providing enforcement "by any means necessary" yet when it comes to American Law Enforcement nothing is ever within reason.

Palestinians are such the threat yet whenever one of these dustups occur invariably they take the brunt of the punishment.

Bite me with IDF generated reporting also. They are hardly an objective news source.

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