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chaspoppcap

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:24 pm

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If this was Chicago there would still be people throwing themselves under rubble to get a check

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Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:29 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:41 pm

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Darkside wrote:

Someone is definitely going to jail over this.

We've got to find that money. Where's that money you silly, stupid old fool? Do you realize what this means? It means bankruptcy and scandal and prison!

One of us is going to jail. Well, it's not gonna be me!!

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SpiralStairs

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:44 pm

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chaspoppcap wrote:

If this was Chicago there would still be people throwing themselves under rubble to get a check

Don't you collect government checks for doing nothing?

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Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:50 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

This Ends in Antioch wrote:

312player wrote:

Brick wrote:

Suburbs win again.

Surfside is a suburb.

Of North Beach?

Bayside

They drove my family out of Bayside !

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chaspoppcap

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:11 pm

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SpiralStairs wrote:

chaspoppcap wrote:

If this was Chicago there would still be people throwing themselves under rubble to get a check

Don't you collect government checks for doing nothing?

Well I work for the government so kinda

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:25 am

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SpiralStairs wrote:

collect government checks for doing nothing

and chicks for free...

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Ogie Oglethorpe

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:37 pm

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chaspoppcap wrote:

SpiralStairs wrote:

chaspoppcap wrote:

If this was Chicago there would still be people throwing themselves under rubble to get a check

Don't you collect government checks for doing nothing?

Well I work for the government so kinda

Prison workshops don't count as "working for the government"

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Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:19 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

SpiralStairs wrote:

collect government checks for doing nothing

and chicks for free...

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SpiralStairs

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:22 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

SpiralStairs wrote:

collect government checks for doing nothing

and chicks for free...

But he paid for them!

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Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:29 pm

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SpiralStairs wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

SpiralStairs wrote:

collect government checks for doing nothing

and chicks for free...

But he paid for them!

Still gotta move those refrigerators and color TVs.

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IkeSouth

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:01 pm

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You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:16 pm

IkeSouth wrote:

You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

I don't have to imagine that.

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Darkside

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:58 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

I don't have to imagine that.

Me either. I'm an hvac tech.

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IkeSouth

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:21 pm

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Darkside wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

I don't have to imagine that.

Me either. I'm an hvac tech.

I run maintenance departments for 100 million dollar companies. What the fuck is your point

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:36 pm

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IkeSouth wrote:

You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

Probably not anymore after the fires.

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Darkside

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:21 pm

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IkeSouth wrote:

Darkside wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

I don't have to imagine that.

Me either. I'm an hvac tech.

I run maintenance departments for 100 million dollar companies. What the fuck is your point

That I'm slowly dying a trapped and agonizing death.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:22 am

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I imagine this will come down to old fucks in an HOA voting to let repairs go just another year because they didn't want to be charged a special assessment

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:14 am

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You can survive 3 days without water. So unless they have found away to contort their bodies to drink their own piss, or the fire hose drips are reaching them..yeah they are dead.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:21 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

I imagine this will come down to old fucks in an HOA voting to let repairs go just another year because they didn't want to be charged a special assessment

Who inevitably loses the lawsuit if there are multiple root causes? Everyone? You've got the report of structural issues in the parking garage below, roof work being done and then construction in the area.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:23 pm

Just read a story about a guy on the phone with his wife when she saw the swimming pool get sucked into a sinkhole and the call got disconnected. She was on the 4th floor.

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IkeSouth

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:32 pm

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Darkside wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

Darkside wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

I don't have to imagine that.

Me either. I'm an hvac tech.

I run maintenance departments for 100 million dollar companies. What the fuck is your point

That I'm slowly dying a trapped and agonizing death.

i dont know why i read that as bragging that you seen some shit :lol:

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redskingreg

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:33 pm

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I imagine this will come down to old fucks in an HOA voting to let repairs go just another year because they didn't want to be charged a special assessment

Condo Assn and Condo Assn’s insurance company. Engineer could be responsible too, depending on their findings. I’ve never seen board members personally held liable. Then again, I’ve never seen this great of a catastrophe in my 15+ years of dealing with condos and HOAs.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:34 pm

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IkeSouth wrote:

Darkside wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

Darkside wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

IkeSouth wrote:

You gotta imagine some people are still trapped alive and slowly dying an agonizing death.

I don't have to imagine that.

Me either. I'm an hvac tech.

I run maintenance departments for 100 million dollar companies. What the fuck is your point

That I'm slowly dying a trapped and agonizing death.

i dont know why i read that as bragging that you seen some shit :lol:

If you've been to Lakemoor, you know the shit he's seen.

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man of few opinions

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:34 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Just read a story about a guy on the phone with his wife when she saw the swimming pool get sucked into a sinkhole and the call got disconnected. She was on the 4th floor.

I heard it was very unlikely it was a sinkhole and what she saw was the pool and pool deck collapse into the parking lot below. The pool was over a parking garage.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:41 pm

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redskingreg wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I imagine this will come down to old fucks in an HOA voting to let repairs go just another year because they didn't want to be charged a special assessment

Thanks, reading that the owners had been sitting on a lot of this since 2018. I don't have any experience with this, but it seems like it will be setting a lot of new precedents.

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SpiralStairs

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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:45 pm

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

redskingreg wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I imagine this will come down to old fucks in an HOA voting to let repairs go just another year because they didn't want to be charged a special assessment

Thanks, reading that the owners had been sitting on a lot of this since 2018. I don't have any experience with this, but it seems like it will be setting a lot of new precedents.

Have a feeling some of the owners are going to wind up McAffeed in the coming weeks and months.

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redskingreg

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:48 pm

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

redskingreg wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I imagine this will come down to old fucks in an HOA voting to let repairs go just another year because they didn't want to be charged a special assessment

Thanks, reading that the owners had been sitting on a lot of this since 2018. I don't have any experience with this, but it seems like it will be setting a lot of new precedents.

They had a 40-year inspection coming soon, which is the minimum in FL from what I read. Unless they find that the board blatantly ignored some findings, I can’t see them being held responsible. I’d wager on a big settlement for the unit owners.

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SpiralStairs

Post subject: Re: Apartment building collapse in Surfside FLA

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:50 pm

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redskingreg wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

redskingreg wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I imagine this will come down to old fucks in an HOA voting to let repairs go just another year because they didn't want to be charged a special assessment

Thanks, reading that the owners had been sitting on a lot of this since 2018. I don't have any experience with this, but it seems like it will be setting a lot of new precedents.

Establishing whether or not someone died in this collapse could be rather inneresting considering most of the dead were probably turned to paste.

There was a story from the OKC bombing in which authorities found a leg but could not identify which body/victim it came from.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy

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Condo Owners Facing 15M in Repairs

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/us/surfside-condo-owners-assessments-invs/index.html

Condo owners in the South Florida tower that collapsed last week were facing assessments for millions of dollars worth of repairs -- with payments set to begin a week after the building's deadly fall.

The Champlain Towers South condo association approved a $15 million assessment in April to complete repairs required under the county's 40-year recertification process, according to documents obtained by CNN.
The documents show that more than two years had passed after association members received a report about "major structural damage" in the building before they started the assessment process to pay for necessary repairs.
Owners would have to pay assessments ranging from $80,190 for one-bedroom units to $336,135 for the owner of the building's four-bedroom penthouse, a document sent to the building's residents said. The deadline to pay upfront or choose paying a monthly fee lasting 15 years was July 1.
An itemized list of planned repairs included new pavers, planter landscape and waterproofing -- addressing some of the issues noted in a 2018 engineer's report, which warned how leaking water was leading to deteriorating concrete. The most costly project listed was "facade, balcony and railing repairs," for $3.4 million.
The 2018 report, prepared for the condo association, had previously estimated that necessary repairs to the Surfside, Fla. building would cost about $9.1 million. It's unclear whether the issues identified by Frank Morabito, the structural engineer who produced the report, contributed to the disaster.
The big assessment bill came as an unwelcome surprise to some owners of the building's 136 units.
"We struggled with it and everything," said Isabel Aguero, who owns an 11th-floor condo in the part of the building that stayed standing. She said she thought most of the line items appeared to be more for aesthetic improvements instead of structural fixes to the building -- such as $722,000 for "hallway and public area renovations."
Aguero and her husband decided to go with the monthly payment, and sent in the paperwork on June 23 so the association would start adding $593 to their homeowner fees, they said. Early the next morning, the building collapsed.
The couple bought their condo two years ago with plans to retire there. But they said they hadn't spent much time in it, as their renovations and furniture deliveries were delayed by the coronavirus pandemic.

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