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Milton or Tampa?


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I gotta couple sisternlaws in the Orlando area, can we shift the drop point a tad?

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I gotta couple sisternlaws in the Orlando area, can we shift the drop point a tad?

Are the baseball cards safe?

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I gotta couple sisternlaws in the Orlando area, can we shift the drop point a tad?


How about Alfalfa farms in Cali to conserve water for thirsty illegal immigrants in Phoenix?

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I thought we were comfortable giving the advice to "move"

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I gotta couple sisternlaws in the Orlando area, can we shift the drop point a tad?


can i get some digits

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Found this when googling 'alfalfa "china, japan, and the middle east"'

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/20 ... ater-woes/

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People don’t eat much alfalfa, at least not directly.

But the crop widely grown throughout California and the West to feed cows across the world has become central to discussions about managing a future with limited water.

That’s part of the larger debate over what’s being grown and where it goes, and even what people should eat to ease pressure on the water supply and fight climate change.

There’s some foreign intrigue about water-intensive crops like alfalfa going overseas to places like China, Japan and the Middle East. In Arizona, an apparent sweetheart land deal with cheap water that benefits a Saudi-owned farming operation is drawing increasing scrutiny.

But before making foreigners scapegoats for Western water woes, it’s important to remember that much of U.S. agriculture has long cultivated a worldwide market. That’s not going to change, nor should it, for economic and global food-security reasons. Further, climate change and ignoring the reality of less water for too long are bigger culprits.

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Some Arizonans no doubt would like to see that happen on land farmed by private companies that get water at little cost, including a large Saudi Arabian dairy company, Almarai.

The Arizona Republic published a report showing that the Arizona State Land Department has been leasing 3,500 acres of public land and the water that comes with it to Almarai for what appears to be a low price. The farm operation grows alfalfa, which is shipped out for dairy cows in Saudi Arabia.

With groundwater being depleted, particularly by industrial farms, there are growing calls for investigations of the Almarai deal.

Yet most of the big corporate farms in Arizona are U.S.-owned, according to Natalie Koch, a Syracuse University professor and author of the book “Arid Empire: The entangled fates of Arizona and Arabia.”

Koch said in a New York Times column that Arizona should put a stop to Almarai’s “shady deal,” but stressed that what the state really needs to do is reform its lax groundwater laws.

There’s some irony in what at least one politician has called the “Saudi water grab.”

In the 1940s, the U.S. State Department sent Arizona farmers to Saudi Arabia and coordinated two Saudi royal visits to Arizona to tout the state’s desert agriculture, according to Koch.

“The unsustainable alfalfa and dairy enterprise that Saudi Arabia set up in the wake of these visits drained the kingdom’s groundwater, sowing the seeds for Saudi companies to look to Arizona for cheap water,” Koch wrote.

In many respects, this was a problem made in the USA.


I know we're getting off topic here, but that's interesting. The Saudis never stop screwing us, do they.

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 Post subject: Re: Milton
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I gotta couple sisternlaws in the Orlando area, can we shift the drop point a tad?

Are the baseball cards safe?

:lol:

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Looks cool as hell though.



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Yes, FMB really should be a natural dune state park, with some parking lots for public beach access. The issue is, there's too much money to be made for that to ever happen. So with each storm, the "locals" are slowly pushed out, and then replaced by resorts and second/third homes for rich people. Long term, that's probably the only way for places like FMB to function, but it does suck that the dive bar/beach vibe is gone.


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Yes, FMB really should be a natural dune state park, with some parking lots for public beach access. The issue is, there's too much money to be made for that to ever happen. So with each storm, the "locals" are slowly pushed out, and then replaced by resorts and second/third homes for rich people. Long term, that's probably the only way for places like FMB to function, but it does suck that the dive bar/beach vibe is gone.

At some point, FEMA funding needs to be calculated based on your likelihood of needing FEMA funding. We are starting to see this happen with private insurance leaving Florida but if FEMA is expected to basically be insurance for places that can't get insurance then charge them more.

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Yes, FMB really should be a natural dune state park, with some parking lots for public beach access. The issue is, there's too much money to be made for that to ever happen. So with each storm, the "locals" are slowly pushed out, and then replaced by resorts and second/third homes for rich people. Long term, that's probably the only way for places like FMB to function, but it does suck that the dive bar/beach vibe is gone.

At some point, FEMA funding needs to be calculated based on your likelihood of needing FEMA funding. We are starting to see this happen with private insurance leaving Florida but if FEMA is expected to basically be insurance for places that can't get insurance then charge them more.

That's fine. Florida is a hurricane bullseye. They have a pre-existing condition.

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The bullseye for twisters jumped the Mississippi and taking up residence in an AirBNB in Tennessee

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I don't know if that means Oklahoma/Kansas get a mild reprieve in the amount of tornadic activity or KY/TN's uptick is additive to OK/KS's existing annual count.

Sounds like the former, with the dry-line moving eastward.

Between tornados and hurricanes, South-Southeast getting f'd hard; something to consider when it comes time to pick a place to move to to wait for the sweet release of death.


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I'm pretty happy Florida has the best governor in the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXp7DsrJQw8

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Send Alfalfa. If it’s good enough for China, it’s good enough for Tampa.

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Send Alfalfa. If it’s good enough for China, it’s good enough for Tampa.


What about Buckwheat?

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Send Alfalfa. If it’s good enough for China, it’s good enough for Tampa.


What about Buckwheat?

He's wookin pa nub in all da wong places.

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Send Alfalfa. If it’s good enough for China, it’s good enough for Tampa.


What about Buckwheat?

He's wookin pa nub in all da wong places.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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If it hits Sarasota and Bradenton all the Southwest Side retirees are going to get walloped. Uncle Terry is in Siesta Key, right?

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This thing is coming full circle to be such a beast that you’re kind of a pussy if you don’t ride it out. Once in a lifetime experience maybe.


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I’d say with it reaching category five again the public has decided that it is now rooting for the storm to be as big and huge as possible. The people love a comeback story.


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With the shift south it seems to be making, it could decimate areas that haven’t made their “comeback story” from Ian two years ago.


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Sister in law has a place in Sarasota. She flew up to stay with us on Monday night. Feel bad for her and hope she doesn't lose everything but it's certainly not looking too good for her. I have absolutely no love for Florida but this one looks awful. I don't remember seeing one spin up in the gulf and head east before.

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Sister in law has a place in Sarasota. She flew up to stay with us on Monday night. Feel bad for her and hope she doesn't lose everything but it's certainly not looking too good for her. I have absolutely no love for Florida but this one looks awful. I don't remember seeing one spin up in the gulf and head east before.


https://spacecityweather.com/

First article on this page shows how many make it into Florida from that starting point. Not often, but not unprecedented.


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Sister in law has a place in Sarasota. She flew up to stay with us on Monday night. Feel bad for her and hope she doesn't lose everything but it's certainly not looking too good for her. I have absolutely no love for Florida but this one looks awful. I don't remember seeing one spin up in the gulf and head east before.

I would never live in FL, but my parents retired to Englewood many years ago and I've always enjoyed Sarasota and particularly Siesta Key. My SIL lives in Cortez, which looks to be right in the center of this mess. :cry:

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