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In general, the more population density the "louder" the area is. The more public transportation options, the "louder" the area is.

Of course there are some areas of Chicago that seem kind of like suburbs, just like there are some suburbs that seem like you are still in Chicago.

It's not a crime to think that many suburbs are quieter than most places in one of the largest cities in the world. It's pretty logical. There are a lot of great reasons to live in the city too. "Quiet neighborhoods" is not one of them.

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Mercy.

If you want quiet, you can find it in the city. If you want noise, you can find it in the city. You can find quiet suburbs and bustling suburbs.

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Frankly community involvement in many burbs is a mammoth drawback for some. Frankly many suburban gov't residential land use restrictions, mandated inspections & requirements amuse the hell out of me. And when we get to the discussion of suburban real estate taxes, water, toll, travel, (name your) fees, I really lose the desire to consider SUB-urban life.

Unless you really have a penchant for shopping malls, bland (no) culture & microwaved food, DuPage, Will, Kane, Kendall counties don't exactly sing for me either.

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How many hundreds of thousands of people live in Beverly, Morgan Park, Hyde Park, Kenwood, Oakland, Mt. Greenwood , Ashburn in large part for that reason? Or the pockets of Jackson Park Highlands, Chatham or numerous other places again just on the south side? Hell, parts of Bridgeport and Bronzeville are disturbingly quiet at night.

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OK, so close suburbs are not suburbs. Also the standard is now "most any neighborhood" rather than their being neighborhoods. Finally, you "don't know enough about Wilmette" and it's pretty apparent you don't know enough about the other areas I have proferred. I see this is going down a familiar path so I will just politely end.

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Naperville, 500,000 residents

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yeah, sorry, I fucked that up...still, that's a lot of people

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If you are going to complain about my posting style every time I am discussing something with you then it may be best if we just ignore each other. It seems like you do it every time.

I submit. Chicago is filled with areas as quiet as all those suburbs with significantly lower population densities and land sizes and much less public transportation.

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With a population density less than over 100 other cities in Illinois.

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Would you prefer that I just keep pursuing an argument that goes nowhere? I have no problem with your posting style. Your arguing style seems to me to be a war of attrition and I tire easily. I don't ignore anyone here and I don't intend to.

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I'll do my best to respond less.

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The incessant, and nearly deafening, popping of Champagne corks here in Kenilworth often makes me long for the peace and train traffic of Wilmette.

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From now on, if it gets to a third page, we officially declare detente

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by the way, in between posts I just had an employee come in and answer the question of why she was late with 30 minutes about her dysfunctional family...I guess the question was a little too open ended

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Late like it came up blue late?

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