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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:16 pm 
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Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hbAirCuNnA&feature=youtu.be&list=UUr1uG9Rc6UgnwL4x2eorMYw

So this is, to this point, the only available video of the plane hitting the ground and blowing up (it's far off in the distance so don't worry about seeing something untoward).

I guess I'm curious how the fella knew to be filming in that direction and lucked in to centering the impact in the shot almost perfectly.

I'm not implying anything. I don't denegrate the tinfoil hat crowd as much as I used to, but I'm certainly not looking to be a member of it. I think it's just ... well, without any context to the video, it's just something I thought was a valid thing to wonder about is all.

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Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hbAirCuNnA&feature=youtu.be&list=UUr1uG9Rc6UgnwL4x2eorMYw

So this is, to this point, the only available video of the plane hitting the ground and blowing up (it's far off in the distance so don't worry about seeing something untoward).

I guess I'm curious how the fella knew to be filming in that direction and lucked in to centering the impact in the shot almost perfectly.

I'm not implying anything. I don't denegrate the tinfoil hat crowd as much as I used to, but I'm certainly not looking to be a member of it. I think it's just ... well, without any context to the video, it's just something I thought was a valid thing to wonder about is all.

It seems to right after the crash as the fire and smoke emerged.

He was probably watching the plane go down and getting his phone out


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And the Senator from TV's green room, John McCain is already on tv blaming the President.

No, seriously. 8)


As he should. This is clearly Obama's fault.

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Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hbAirCuNnA&feature=youtu.be&list=UUr1uG9Rc6UgnwL4x2eorMYw

So this is, to this point, the only available video of the plane hitting the ground and blowing up (it's far off in the distance so don't worry about seeing something untoward).

I guess I'm curious how the fella knew to be filming in that direction and lucked in to centering the impact in the shot almost perfectly.

I'm not implying anything. I don't denegrate the tinfoil hat crowd as much as I used to, but I'm certainly not looking to be a member of it. I think it's just ... well, without any context to the video, it's just something I thought was a valid thing to wonder about is all.


Russians record everything.

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Probably a meteor. That's a heavy meteor area.

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Probably a meteor. That's a heavy meteor area.

Well if the locals end up looking like this in a couple weeks , I'll buy it.


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Yikes.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Probably a meteor. That's a heavy meteor area.


It was the biggest interdimensional cross rip since the Tunguska blast of 1909.


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There's a big hole over there somewhere too. It's all related.

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That's funny. Don't be a Monday morning quarterback....

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Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hbAirCuNnA&feature=youtu.be&list=UUr1uG9Rc6UgnwL4x2eorMYw

So this is, to this point, the only available video of the plane hitting the ground and blowing up (it's far off in the distance so don't worry about seeing something untoward).

I guess I'm curious how the fella knew to be filming in that direction and lucked in to centering the impact in the shot almost perfectly.

I'm not implying anything. I don't denegrate the tinfoil hat crowd as much as I used to, but I'm certainly not looking to be a member of it. I think it's just ... well, without any context to the video, it's just something I thought was a valid thing to wonder about is all.

It seems to right after the crash as the fire and smoke emerged.

He was probably watching the plane go down and getting his phone out


Watching what though? I don't see a smoke trail of a missle. Again, not saying I beleive in nutjob conspiracy nonsense ... I just have certain (albeit somewhat nebulous and mostly ignorant) expectations as to what I think I should be seeing.

Also, out in the middle of Shithole Gulch, when planes fly these lanes every day (nothing special about a plane being there), why's the guy looking in the sky at the right time? There's just too many variables at the moment which only means that it's too early to make any sort of well-thought out suppositions whether you're an idiot like me or somebody that knows what they're talking about (like none of us).

CH is right though ... Ruskies do record everything. Unlimited entertainment value in the dashcam videos. :lol:

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I've seen it suggested that this was some group of pro-Russian rebel militia that presumed this was a non-civilian aircraft, decided to prove the size of their dicks, and now are pretty much assured to be obliterated.

https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/489802664264212480/photo/1

"In the area of Torrez the airplane AN-26 was just shot down, currently lying somewhere near the "Progress" mine. We warned (them) not to fly in "our sky". And here's another video confirmation. The bird fell into the waste heap; residential areas not harmed. Civilians were not injured."

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Don Tiny wrote:
Civilians were not injured.
Except for, you know, the couple hundred on the plane.

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DEVELOPING: White House placed on lockdown; cause not yet known; reporters being told to stay in press area - @marykbruce



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Rumor is that Pres Obama found out about the downing of the plane while he was on phone with Putin by Putin.

So let's sum up

Downed passenger plane in Ukraine by either Russian separatists
Israel is rolling into Gaza.
White House on Lockdown and possible threat in D.C.
So much going on ,where is the President? In NYC for a fundraiser.

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Rumor is that Pres Obama found out about the downing of the plane while he was on phone with Putin by Putin.

So let's sum up

Downed passenger plane in Ukraine by either Russian separatists
Israel is rolling into Gaza.
White House on Lockdown and possible threat in D.C.
So much going on ,where is the President? In NYC for a fundraiser.

So your complaint is he can't deal with the first two because he isn't in the third place...where there is a security situation going on at the moment?


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I know! That damn George Bush never should have left the White House on 9/11 either! In fact, they should just weld the doors to the White House shut as soon as a President is inaugurated so that he can be there whenever anything that may come up!

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chaspoppcap wrote:
Rumor is that Pres Obama found out about the downing of the plane while he was on phone with Putin by Putin.

So let's sum up

Downed passenger plane in Ukraine by either Russian separatists
Israel is rolling into Gaza.
White House on Lockdown and possible threat in D.C.
So much going on ,where is the President? In NYC for a fundraiser.

So your complaint is he can't deal with the first two because he isn't in the third place...where there is a security situation going on at the moment?


No that instead of yah know being someplace secure in command of shit he is flying around on our dime doing partisan work instead of his fucking job.

UK now calling for emergency meeting on Ukraine.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
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chaspoppcap wrote:
Rumor is that Pres Obama found out about the downing of the plane while he was on phone with Putin by Putin.

So let's sum up

Downed passenger plane in Ukraine by either Russian separatists
Israel is rolling into Gaza.
White House on Lockdown and possible threat in D.C.
So much going on ,where is the President? In NYC for a fundraiser.

So your complaint is he can't deal with the first two because he isn't in the third place...where there is a security situation going on at the moment?


No that instead of yah know being someplace secure in command of shit he is flying around on our dime doing partisan work instead of his fucking job.

UK now calling for emergency meeting on Ukraine.

If only Air Force One had phones.


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At this point, New York seems to be more secure than the White House.

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UK now calling for emergency meeting on Ukraine.
Let's hope give some time to the Irish so they can sober up at least.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
At this point, New York seems to be more secure than the White House.

I won't be satisfied until he is locked up in the fortress of solitude.


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NY is like five minutes from DC on AF1

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
At this point, New York seems to be more secure than the White House.

I won't be satisfied until he is locked up in the fortress of solitude.


I bet if we go back and look you guys would be some of the same ones complaining about Bush being whisked around on 9/11. Bush stayed where needed and took control. He did not in the middle of the day go and participate in a fundraiser.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
At this point, New York seems to be more secure than the White House.


2,753 people would have liked this.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
At this point, New York seems to be more secure than the White House.

I won't be satisfied until he is locked up in the fortress of solitude.


I bet if we go back and look you guys would be some of the same ones complaining about Bush being whisked around on 9/11. Bush stayed where needed and took control. He did not in the middle of the day go and participate in a fundraiser.

On a message board that didn't yet exist...you bet!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:25 pm 
I wanted Dubya as far away from DC as possible on 9/11. Remember the whole plane crashing into the pentagon thing?

And yes he absolutely stayed in place and took control as we were being attacked. He read My Pet Goat with great bravery and resolve.


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