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i enjoy playing the Bingo one every now and then


Bagels take a look on the back of a card....they will tell you that the ODDS of getting something like 4 of a kind is like 150-1



I have a hunch getting 4-of-a-kind on the Bingo scratchoff is considerably less likely than 150-1.


yeah, i didn't say i play because there are great odds.....probably once or twice a year when i actually go inside a gas station i might get 1. in the grand scheme of things it's probably in the bottom 1% of things i waste money on ...


I wasn't judging the value of playing a scratchoff ticket as much as I was pointing out the supremely long odds of getting 4-of-a-kind in Bingo ... like getting a touchdown in baseball ... somewhere Ivan shudders and he doesn't even know why.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:35 am 
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I wasn't judging the value of playing a scratchoff ticket as much as I was pointing out the supremely long odds of getting 4-of-a-kind in Bingo ... like getting a touchdown in baseball ... somewhere Ivan shudders and he doesn't even know why.


yeah sorry i guess i was responding more to bigfan's point
i'm not a big gambler via any format, but whenever i do i pretty much just assume that whatever money i'm spending is lost, i think that's the best way to approach things


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Bagels wrote:
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I wasn't judging the value of playing a scratchoff ticket as much as I was pointing out the supremely long odds of getting 4-of-a-kind in Bingo ... like getting a touchdown in baseball ... somewhere Ivan shudders and he doesn't even know why.


yeah sorry i guess i was responding more to bigfan's point
i'm not a big gambler via any format, but whenever i do i pretty much just assume that whatever money i'm spending is lost, i think that's the best way to approach things


Which if you're not overspending on it, it's really no big deal. I mean, people will pay nearly $20 for shit like 'As Above So Below' and concessions with zero chance of getting their money back but then go up somebody's ass for buying an occasional $5 scratch off ticket with next to zero chance of getting their money back. While typing this I wondered if there's ever been a scratchoff game with proceeds going to a cure for Parkinsons and I'm more ashamed that I couldn't work it into a cogent joke far more than having the thought itself.

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The lottery was invented to tax the poor. It does a very good job.

:lol: :lol: Yeah its too bad they have zero choice in the matter and have to play it.

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I love the guys that stop into the gas station and drop $40 on cigarettes and lottery tickets. I look at those purchases as mostly a poor man's tax. There is probably about $10 worth of value in those $40 worth of purchases. Plus the free ticket "win" on a scratch off ticket is basically an invitation to get your free ticket and buy another $10 worth along with it.

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On Friday, I found a bunch of lottery tickets on the floor of the elevator as I left the office. They appeared to be for some kind of mid-day drawing (jeez, once a day isn't enough?) so I figured they were already determined to be losers and discarded, and not simply dropped/lost.

On the way home, I was thinking about what would happen if one of those tickets was actually a million-dollar winner and what the moral implications would be. Let's say the person who bought the tickets had accidentally dropped them and then bought replacements (assume the original tickets and the replacements were quick-picks). Now let's say I subsequently find out that person is a co-worker.

Scenario 1: An original ticket (which I hold) is a million-dollar winner. Should I return it or share it with the co-worker who lost it?

Scenario 2: A replacement ticket is the winner. Should the co-worker give it to or share it with me (since he would not have purchased it unless he had lost it in the first place)?

What if the original ticket was a winner but you didn't know the purchaser? Would you seek him/her out? On one hand, you found something that was eventually worth a lot of money...but at the time it may not have been known (pre-drawing), and if the person bought replacement tickets, does that person have a moral claim to the original quick-pick tickets?

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Here ya Go.....$5 tickets, the chances of you winning $30 is 30-1! Which would be a true payout of $150, but they will give you $30 or 6-1..
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$250! Your chances are 1000-1, that you will find the $250 scratch off! thats a $5000 winner on the true odds, but they are going to give you $250 if you happen to hit a 1 in a 1000!

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The lottery was invented to tax the poor. It does a very good job.

:lol: :lol: Yeah its too bad they have zero choice in the matter and have to play it.

Interesting that Leash's quote is usually said with the term "stupid" instead of poor


I guess there is some crossover there


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As much as I think lottery players are sub humans who should be put on some island somewhere, I always feel a little hypocritical saying anything being that I spent so much money on tobacco/nicotine addiction.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
The lottery was invented to tax the poor. It does a very good job.

:lol: :lol: Yeah its too bad they have zero choice in the matter and have to play it.

Interesting that Leash's quote is usually said with the term "stupid" instead of poor


I guess there is some crossover there


I've heard it called a tax on the mathematically challenged.

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Which if you're not overspending on it, it's really no big deal. I mean, people will pay nearly $20 for shit like 'As Above So Below' and concessions with zero chance of getting their money back but then go up somebody's ass for buying an occasional $5 scratch off ticket with next to zero chance of getting their money back.
If movies lasted for 30 seconds and there was a 40% chance they just kept my money instead of showing me the movie then I'd think that person was making a mistake too.

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Here ya Go.....$5 tickets, the chances of you winning $30 is 30-1! Which would be a true payout of $150, but they will give you $30 or 6-1..
Next level!

$250! Your chances are 1000-1, that you will find the $250 scratch off! thats a $5000 winner on the true odds, but they are going to give you $250 if you happen to hit a 1 in a 1000!

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I like how they have to state that "The Top Prizes of $20,000 A Week For 20 Years Will Be Annuitized Over A 20-Year Period."

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:26 pm 
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On Friday, I found a bunch of lottery tickets on the floor of the elevator as I left the office. They appeared to be for some kind of mid-day drawing (jeez, once a day isn't enough?) so I figured they were already determined to be losers and discarded, and not simply dropped/lost.

On the way home, I was thinking about what would happen if one of those tickets was actually a million-dollar winner and what the moral implications would be. Let's say the person who bought the tickets had accidentally dropped them and then bought replacements (assume the original tickets and the replacements were quick-picks). Now let's say I subsequently find out that person is a co-worker.

Scenario 1: An original ticket (which I hold) is a million-dollar winner. Should I return it or share it with the co-worker who lost it?

Scenario 2: A replacement ticket is the winner. Should the co-worker give it to or share it with me (since he would not have purchased it unless he had lost it in the first place)?

What if the original ticket was a winner but you didn't know the purchaser? Would you seek him/her out? On one hand, you found something that was eventually worth a lot of money...but at the time it may not have been known (pre-drawing), and if the person bought replacement tickets, does that person have a moral claim to the original quick-pick tickets?


It's immoral to give a moron who lost a million dollar ticket his money back.

At least once every couple months at the OTB I'll walk up to a betting machine to find some goof has left a live voucher in there. I've come across as much as $400 and as little as $12. I can't exactly yell out, "Hey who left this voucher here?" as there likely would be a line of assholes screaming it was theirs. I don't want to turn it in to management because if the guy never comes looking for it, they aren't going to hand me back the money. The manager would probably stick it in his own pocket. And I go in the place too often to cash it immediately and run out the door. (Although if I found one for over $5000 I might think about it.) So I just hold onto the thing and stick it in a machine at the end of the night. Usually it's been locked so I know the guy went and reported it missing and they gave him the dough. But I think you should be on your own if you're dumb enough to lose a big ticket. It's a good lesson learned.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
As much as I think lottery players are sub humans who should be put on some island somewhere, I always feel a little hypocritical saying anything being that I spent so much money on tobacco/nicotine addiction.

Is anyone saying that?

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rogers park bryan wrote:
As much as I think lottery players are sub humans who should be put on some island somewhere, I always feel a little hypocritical saying anything being that I spent so much money on tobacco/nicotine addiction.

Is anyone saying that?


I'll say it. :lol:

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The "Win for life" ones are tempting.
A payout which is based on how long you live strikes me as bad karma.

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badrogue17 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
As much as I think lottery players are sub humans who should be put on some island somewhere, I always feel a little hypocritical saying anything being that I spent so much money on tobacco/nicotine addiction.

Is anyone saying that?

I am. :lol:


I seriously hate them. Im just admitting my own hypocrisy


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I just wish they had their own separate line at the store, nothing pisses me off worse than the person taking 5 minutes to pick out their damn lottery tickets.

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I'm an avid gambler , but a significant amount of large paydays are pretty much being in the right place @ the right time... The most I ever won was 28k @ the Old horseshoe ..when the closed for 2-3 hours ...they tried everything , switching dealers 5x in 90 minutes n were vacuuming around my feet.

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you're. gona have to make a Worm or John Tuturro pal.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
The "Win for life" ones are tempting.
A payout which is based on how long you live strikes me as bad karma.


Yeah, and while I don't think I'd the (bankrupt) state of Illinois would wish me any harm, how many of us would feel comfortable if we won a similar payout from a casino?

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Haha...that's funny...I know my chances of a win 4 life are extremely low...I daydream of giving the ticket to my neices or nephews who will long outlive me...

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Had a buddy win $1000 on a scratch off on two separate occasions. Still can't bring myself to waste the money.

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i enjoy playing the Bingo one every now and then


I have a buddy that's addicted bad to Bingo tickets. They're like crack to him. He'll even borrow money to buy them. His claim to fame is that he once won $5,000. Too bad he probably spent 10,000 to win it!

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you're. gona have to make a Worm or John Tuturro pal.


Pain that mane hisk money!

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The lottery was invented to tax the poor. It does a very good job.

:lol: :lol: Yeah its too bad they have zero choice in the matter and have to play it.


I didn't say they did.

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