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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:12 am 
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No way I go in. Not in Florida.

I canoed through the Everglades a few years ago with an ex girlfriend of mine and we had this guide who could not have been older than I was at the time (21). This doofus would prod at the gators with his paddle as we watched in horror, eventually one swam under his canoe and lifted it up about 2 feet in the water then let it down. The look on his face was of sheer terror, like he knew how close he came there.


Why would you canoe in the Everglades? That's insane. They do make bigger boats you can ride in.

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you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?



Armed police officer swimming in dark pond VS gator.


Yea, my money's on the gator.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:13 am 
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you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?
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America wrote:
No way I go in. Not in Florida.

I canoed through the Everglades a few years ago with an ex girlfriend of mine and we had this guide who could not have been older than I was at the time (21). This doofus would prod at the gators with his paddle as we watched in horror, eventually one swam under his canoe and lifted it up about 2 feet in the water then let it down. The look on his face was of sheer terror, like he knew how close he came there.


Why would you canoe in the Everglades? That's insane. They do make bigger boats you can ride in.

It's actually very pleasant. No noise, no obnoxious people in your group... you just glide through the mangroves. Canoes are pretty fucking huge, bigger than any gator. As long as you aren't an idiot actively pissing off the gators they dont give you a second thought.


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shakes wrote:
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you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?



Armed police officer swimming in dark pond VS gator.


Yea, my money's on the gator.


I also believe, per Mythbusters, that bullets are basically useless in the water.

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Hatchetman wrote:
you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?

Not sure what a 9mm bullet will do against a gator.


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Joe Delaney would've jumped in.

Too soon?


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Gator skull is almost bulletproof, there's like a half dollar size soft spot..I'd rather take my chances with a gator than the cops shooting at the gator and me in the dark.

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America wrote:
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you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?

Not sure what a 9mm bullet will do against a gator.


Kill it?

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They lied because they don't want people saying they should have tried instead of letting 3 kids die.


They lied because they can't handle the minute's worth of blowback that comes when they truthfully acknowledge that they viewed their own lives as more valuable than three goofy joyriding teens in a stolen pos car that ultimately took steps to end their own lives. If it was dark, and in murky water I cannot envision going in after three girls drowning after a car chase.

Not directly on point, but I was in a class years ago with the CPD lead hostage negotiator giving a lecture. Long story short, he mentioned (in a class more than 60% female) that the standing order was that if issues did in fact erupt, to shoot the women hostage takers first. The rationale was that the women were far, far more likely to aggressively/emotionally respond (overreact) and that the officers were in much more danger of the wildly emotional criminal women who where more prone to do anything to save themselves...or at least take someone with them.

Watching the largely upper-middle & upper income daughters respond to that one was priceless. :lol:

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Hatchetman wrote:
you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?

Ok. Here's the plan. Officer Hatch, you go in first, shakes and I will cover you .

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Hatchetman wrote:
you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?

Ok. Here's the plan. Officer Hatch, you go in first, shakes and I will cover you .


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Regular Reader wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
you realize there are multiple cops with guns, right?

Ok. Here's the plan. Officer Hatch, you go in first, shakes and I will cover you .


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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I said I'd go in. I'm just like Master Brick freeing my slaves 200 years ago.

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Spaulding wrote:
They lied because they don't want people saying they should have tried instead of letting 3 kids die.

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Hatchetman wrote:
I said I'd go in. I'm just like Master Brick freeing my slaves 200 years ago.


"Freeing my slaves" sounds like an insensitive euphemism for going commando ...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:31 am 
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Don Tiny wrote:
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I said I'd go in. I'm just like Master Brick freeing my slaves 200 years ago.


"Freeing my slaves" sounds like an insensitive euphemism for going commando ...


Sometimes you scare the hell out of me Don :lol: :lol: :lol:

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the driver apparently missed a sharp turn near a cemetery, plunging into the water, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I said I'd go in. I'm just like Master Brick freeing my slaves 200 years ago.


"Freeing my slaves" sounds like an insensitive euphemism for going commando ...


Sometimes you scare the hell out of me Don :lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm your hero, I know. :D

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its crazy how cops lie about shit even when they aren't in the wrong. Just imagine the lies when they actually do fuck up.

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its crazy how cops lie about shit even when they aren't in the wrong. Just imagine the lies when they actually do fuck up.

Because their superiors come in and tell them the story they have to tell


A la Cedric Daniels with Prez and the kid he hit with that gun


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its crazy how people lie about shit even when they aren't in the wrong. Just imagine the lies when they actually do fuck up.


Fixed. We both know that this is also true. I hate unnecessary lies though.

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shakes wrote:
Have you guys ever been to Florida???? You don't go within 5 feet of the ponds/lakes down there, let alone going in them. Same goes for the woods.


Are you guys aware of these animals that exist in bodies of water in Florida?

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When we took the airboat ride at Myakka State Park in FL. there were fisherman wading in the water all over the place. The guide said that the gators don't mess with them during the day. However, he also said that only 2 things move in the water at night...gators and gator food.

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surprised the gators didn't break into the car and pull the girls out themselves.

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surprised the gators didn't break into the car and pull the girls out themselves.


They were working on it.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
They lied because they don't want people saying they should have tried instead of letting 3 kids die.


They lied because they can't handle the minute's worth of blowback that comes when they truthfully acknowledge that they viewed their own lives as more valuable than three goofy joyriding teens in a stolen pos car that ultimately took steps to end their own lives. If it was dark, and in murky water I cannot envision going in after three girls drowning after a car chase.


This. Not going in isn't the issue. It's the lying about it. Just say what happened. You're cops, not Superman.

There was a guy who drove his car into a local pond by me a few months back (on purpose). It took professional diving teams a long time to even get the body out. Pretty sure three regular cops without gear wouldn't stand a chance to save people within a matter of minutes.

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Spaulding wrote:
They lied because they don't want people saying they should have tried instead of letting 3 kids die.


They lied because they can't handle the minute's worth of blowback that comes when they truthfully acknowledge that they viewed their own lives as more valuable than three goofy joyriding teens in a stolen pos car that ultimately took steps to end their own lives. If it was dark, and in murky water I cannot envision going in after three girls drowning after a car chase.


This. Not going in isn't the issue. It's the lying about it. Just say what happened. You're cops, not Superman.

There was a guy who drove his car into a local pond by me a few months back (on purpose). It took professional diving teams a long time to even get the body out. Pretty sure three regular cops without gear wouldn't stand a chance to save people within a matter of minutes.


Exactly, no reason to lie about.

A simple, "fuck that, I ain't going there for nobody" would've sufficed.

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They lied because they can't handle the minute's worth of blowback that comes when they truthfully acknowledge that they viewed their own lives as more valuable than three goofy joyriding teens in a stolen pos car that ultimately took steps to end their own lives. If it was dark, and in murky water I cannot envision going in after three girls drowning after a car chase.


This. Not going in isn't the issue. It's the lying about it. Just say what happened. You're cops, not Superman.

There was a guy who drove his car into a local pond by me a few months back (on purpose). It took professional diving teams a long time to even get the body out. Pretty sure three regular cops without gear wouldn't stand a chance to save people within a matter of minutes.


What you guys are saying wouldn't fly with much of the public. I don't disagree, but that's the breaks.


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Yep they'd be called cowards instead of lying cowards.

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Yep they'd be called cowards instead of lying cowards.


And I know without question that I'd be alive to take that heat.

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