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How is it not contagious til symptoms are showing?



Maybe they know that the puking, sneezing, coughing does not start until then? Just a guess but those are the most likely ways to get it?


Listen up. These are the words of a structural biologist.


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Are you scientist?

Are you Unfrozen Caveman SomeGuy?

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How is it not contagious til symptoms are showing?



Maybe they know that the puking, sneezing, coughing does not start until then? Just a guess but those are the most likely ways to get it?


Listen up. These are the words of a structural biologist.


...and it begins. :lol:


Well. According to the Leash Principles you being a scientist means that you actually AREN'T qualified to speak on matters of science, even if it's in your direct field. If you need anymore explanation I would refer you to the Denisdman Paradigm.


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How is it not contagious til symptoms are showing?



Maybe they know that the puking, sneezing, coughing does not start until then? Just a guess but those are the most likely ways to get it?


Listen up. These are the words of a structural biologist.


Are you scientist?


I am part scientist. My mother was half scientist and my dad was one quarter.

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leashyourkids wrote:

I am part scientist. My mother was half scientist and my dad was one quarter.


And they still made him sit in the back of the lab.

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Thanks Obama.


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/10 ... ves-ebola/

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I'm not worried about this guy from New York. It seems like he did everything the right way when he started showing symptoms. Also, the two nurses in Texas that had it are not symptom free. Sounds like CDC has gotten their shit together on this.

Thanks Obama.


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/10 ... ves-ebola/

Meh. Nobody even cares what Limbaugh thinks anymore. Do conservatives even pay attention to him now?

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Just consider that Rush has had more wives than there are (to this point) documented cases of people catching Ebola in this country.

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I'm not worried about this guy from New York. It seems like he did everything the right way when he started showing symptoms. Also, the two nurses in Texas that had it are not symptom free. Sounds like CDC has gotten their shit together on this.

Thanks Obama.


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/10 ... ves-ebola/

Meh. Nobody even cares what Limbaugh thinks anymore. Do conservatives even pay attention to him now?


Fox News says that shit too, and they have many viewers, who eat that up.

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Maybe they know that the puking, sneezing, coughing does not start until then? Just a guess but those are the most likely ways to get it?


I think they are lying. You can spread herpes or the flu with out having symptoms. If somebody with ebola picks their nose or bites their nails then touches other things, I'd think the virus could be spread.


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I think they are lying. You can spread herpes or the flu with out having symptoms. If somebody with ebola picks their nose or bites their nails then touches other things, I'd think the virus could be spread.
Why do you think this?

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Why do I think they are lying or why do I think it's contagious.


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why do you think you spread herpes?

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Maybe they know that the puking, sneezing, coughing does not start until then? Just a guess but those are the most likely ways to get it?


I think they are lying. You can spread herpes or the flu with out having symptoms. If somebody with ebola picks their nose or bites their nails then touches other things, I'd think the virus could be spread.


You would be wrong.

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Why do I think they are lying or why do I think it's contagious.


In this day and age of 24/7 news and internet access, do you really think it's possible for the goverment to pull a fast one over us on such a large scale? Do you think there are wards of dying Ebola patients in Dallas?

If it was that contagious, the entire continent of Africa would be decimated.

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Why do I think they are lying or why do I think it's contagious.
Both.

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why do you think you spread herpes?

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leashyourkids wrote:

You would be wrong.


Okay. I don't really care.

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In this day and age of 24/7 news and internet access, do you really think it's possible for the goverment to pull a fast one over us on such a large scale? Do you think there are wards of dying Ebola patients in Dallas?

If it was that contagious, the entire continent of Africa would be decimated.


No I don't believe there is a true outbreak here. How would they be pulling a fast one? I don't think they are being honest about the severity of the disease, it's transmission, or how they have screwed/how hospitals have screwed up.


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Spaulding wrote:
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You would be wrong.


Okay. I don't really care.

Hank Scorpio wrote:

In this day and age of 24/7 news and internet access, do you really think it's possible for the goverment to pull a fast one over us on such a large scale? Do you think there are wards of dying Ebola patients in Dallas?

If it was that contagious, the entire continent of Africa would be decimated.


No I don't believe there is a true outbreak here. How would they be pulling a fast one? I don't think they are being honest about the severity of the disease, it's transmission, or how they have screwed/how hospitals have screwed up.


What evidence or facts do you have to support that thought?

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Spaulding wrote:
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You would be wrong.


Okay. I don't really care.

Hank Scorpio wrote:

In this day and age of 24/7 news and internet access, do you really think it's possible for the goverment to pull a fast one over us on such a large scale? Do you think there are wards of dying Ebola patients in Dallas?

If it was that contagious, the entire continent of Africa would be decimated.


No I don't believe there is a true outbreak here. How would they be pulling a fast one? I don't think they are being honest about the severity of the disease, it's transmission, or how they have screwed/how hospitals have screwed up.


The severity of the disease??? The symptoms include bleeding from your eyes, ears and mouth and the end game is death without treatment. I dont know what more they can say.

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The Quality of Fear
What the Ebola Crisis Reveals About Culture
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There’s been a lot of tut-tutting about the people who are overreacting to the Ebola virus. There was the lady who showed up at the airport in a homemade hazmat suit. There were the hundreds of parents in Mississippi who pulled their kids from school because the principal had traveled to Zambia, a country in southern Africa untouched by the Ebola outbreak in the western region of the continent. There was the school district in Ohio that closed a middle school and an elementary school because an employee might have flown on the same plane (not even the same flight) as an Ebola-infected health care worker.

The critics point out that these people are behaving hysterically, all out of proportion to the scientific risks, which, of course, is true. But the critics misunderstand what’s going on here. Fear isn’t only a function of risk; it’s a function of isolation. We live in a society almost perfectly suited for contagions of hysteria and overreaction.

In the first place, we’re living in a segmented society. Over the past few decades we’ve seen a pervasive increase in the gaps between different social classes. People are much less likely to marry across social class, or to join a club and befriend people across social class.

That means there are many more people who feel completely alienated from the leadership class of this country, whether it’s the political, cultural or scientific leadership. They don’t know people in authority. They perceive a vast status gap between themselves and people in authority. They may harbor feelings of intellectual inferiority toward people in authority. It becomes easy to wave away the whole lot of them, and that distrust isolates them further. “What loneliness is more lonely than distrust,” George Eliot writes in “Middlemarch.”

So you get the rise of the anti-vaccine parents, who simply distrust the cloud of experts telling them that vaccines are safe for their children. You get the rise of the anti-science folks, who distrust the realm of far-off studies and prefer anecdotes from friends to data about populations. You get more and more people who simply do not believe what the establishment is telling them about the Ebola virus, especially since the establishment doesn’t seem particularly competent anyway.

Second, you’ve got a large group of people who are bone-deep suspicious of globalization, what it does to their jobs and their communities. Along comes Ebola, which is the perfect biological embodiment of what many fear about globalization. It is a dark insidious force from a mysterious place far away that seems to be able to spread uncontrollably and get into the intimate spheres of life back home.

Third, you’ve got the culture of instant news. It’s a weird phenomenon of the media age that, except in extreme circumstances, it is a lot scarier to follow an event on TV than it is to actually be there covering it. When you’re watching on TV, you only see the death and mayhem. But when you’re actually there, you see the broader context of everyday life going on alongside. Studies of the Boston Marathon bombing found that people who consumed a lot of news media during the first week suffered more stress than people who were actually there.

Fourth, you’ve got our culture’s tendency to distance itself from death. Philip Roth once wrote: “In every calm and reasonable person there is a hidden second person scared witless about death.” In cultures where death is more present, or at least dealt with more commonly, people are more familiar with that second person, and people can think a bit more clearly about risks of death in any given moment.

In cultures where people deal with death by simply getting it out of their minds, the prospect of sudden savage death, even if extremely unlikely, can arouse a mental fog of fear, and an unmoored and utopian desire to want to reduce the risk of early death to zero, all other considerations be damned.

Given all these conditions, you wind up with an emotional spiral that develops its own momentum.

CThe Ebola crisis has aroused its own flavor of fear. It’s not the heart-pounding fear you might feel if you were running away from a bear or some distinct threat. It’s a sour, existential fear. It’s a fear you feel when the whole environment seems hostile, when the things that are supposed to keep you safe, like national borders and national authorities, seem porous and ineffective, when some menace is hard to understand.

In these circumstances, skepticism about authority turns into corrosive cynicism. People seek to build walls, to pull in the circle of trust. They become afraid. Fear, of course, breeds fear. Fear is a fog that alters perception and clouds thought. Fear is, in the novelist Yann Martel’s words, “a wordless darkness.”

Ebola is a treacherous adversary. It’s found a weakness in our bodies. Worse, it exploits the weakness in the fabric of our culture.

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The severity of the disease??? The symptoms include bleeding from your eyes, ears and mouth and the end game is death without treatment. I dont know what more they can say.


They didn't use emoticons.

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Why do I think they are lying or why do I think it's contagious.
Both.


They don't want the panic. I have no idea what is available or not available to treat these patients. I'd bet people are coming in with the flu and being checked for it already. My husband has been flying to and from Cleveland for the last few months. This week he came home sick, we think it is a normal cold but it's a scary unfortunate coincidence that a woman that traveled to Cleveland 2 weeks ago had it. It's not making me crazy but it's not a good feeling either.

I think it is contagious and more dangerous than they are letting on if you look at the protective measures they have had to take when caring for the patients. The patients are isolated, you can't handle clothes or bedding and have to be covered head to toe in a suit. That's not done for the normal flu. Look at the goofiness of the first patient in Dallas. So 4 or 5 people have/had it here now. A few have been on planes, in airports, traveling, and probably have gone to stores. If you think about the # of times these people have wiped their nose or put their hands to their mouth and then touched other things there is a possibility others get it.


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There is also a possibility that you get struck by lightning the next time you are outside and its raining, and that I shoot 78 tomorrow on the golf course. Both of those events are incredibly unlikely to happen though.

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