Pfft.

Work is for suckers.

Let's see what other problems we can ignore because people 200 years ago wouldn't understand!

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You? Probably not. MANY others? Yes.

Ban all guns.

Do you really think that an amendment prohibiting guns would keep guns off the streets? Pot is illegal, yet I have no problem finding it. The 18th Amendment didn't exactly do what it was intended to do, either.

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Of course not. But it would drastically reduce them.

At least someone around here can post in a reasonable manner with a good thought.

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I doubt that. Drugs are all over the streets. Anything you want is just a phone call away.

All that would do is strengthen the black market.

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You don't think a ban of something would reduce the volume of that thing?

(And out of the sake of fairness, I am aware of the prohibition thing)

No. We have a template. Prohibition didn't keep booze off the streets, and the War on Drugs hasn't kept drugs off the streets.

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What should we protect ourselves with when the criminals come knocking with illegal guns? Our Obama phones?

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You would be used as a human shield.

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Laughing is the wrong word. But there are implications that they would be horrified at the idea of regulating the 2A. I think they might be similarly horrified by Newtown.

The main point is they lived in such a different time, it's pretty much useless to guess on how they'd react to 2017.

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I mean, people in the 1600-1700's could be jailed, whipped, or had food rations taken away if they didn't attend church twice per day. (in certain areas)

So yes, times were different but if you could be whipped for missing church, I would imagine that you would be punished pretty harshly if you walked into a school with a musket and starting firing at will.

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JERRY: Hey, do you know what the Whip does?

KRAMER: What whip?

JERRY: The Whip. In the Senate, in the House.

KRAMER: Well, you know in the old days, when the senators didn't vote the way that the party leaders wanted 'em to... they whipped them. (holds imaginary whip) You better vote the way we want you to, or there's gonna be big trouble (cracks invisible whip and makes sound effect).

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Well, we could look at the document they wrote.

These guys lived during a time when dysentery and smallpox were around. I’m pretty sure they had come to grips with life’s risks.

But anyway, your comments about regulating the 2A also assume that these “regulations” accomplish anything. I doubt it. As Chus said, it would just create a black market and make more bad people rich. America LOVES guns. No law is going to keep them away.

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And the reality of the situation is that every day, people of various skills and backgrounds try to improve the safety or lessen the danger of each and every one of those 100 more things.

The truth is that you and others hold your desire to own dangerous recreational toys above thousands of lives lost every day. If Americans owning Playstation 4's put thousands of lives in danger, I'd definitely be open to Playstation 4 control.

I don't think anything about this as fun. You made a very callous statement...it was a selfish sentiment.

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I have never owned a gun in my life.

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What kind of Sandwich Sportsman Club member are you?!

Tell you what...go buy one...my dad lives out there and is looking for another someone to go shooting with. I have no interest.

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We do look at that document. Life's risks? Ok.

So they'd be horrified by regulations but not by massacres of children by one deranged citizen? I dont think either of us know.



Fair enough. But you keep saying you aren't against regulations. Seems like you are.

I’ve fired them, but they never appealed to me. I find it boring. I did enjoy Sons of Guns, however.

Look, I’m really not saying that the regulation crowd is wrong. I’m just saying that sometimes the arguments are so condescending. Some act as though gun advocates are cavemen or serial killers. That’s not true, and that’s my main point.

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I’m really not. I don’t have strong feelings either way. I just hate how regulating or banning guns has become the “humane” position and that advocates argue from a moral high ground. The people who are against regulation don’t like people being massacred anymore than anyone else, and I find it disgusting that some make that insinuation (no one on here but in the media and such). The pro-gun crowd has valid points too. That’s all I’m saying.

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Really? We should hit up the Bull Moose with him sometime.

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I meet him there once a month, but he likes sticking to that private circular room playing backgammon. We reserve the room for like 7:30p on weeknights. I find myself moving to the bar to watch whatever game is on that night more times than not.

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Rick, the law already incentivizes being cautious about to whom you loan or gift weapons, in a variety of ways, without restricting my domain over property I ostensibly own. If I know or should know that dude is going to commit another armed robbery and I arm him, I have aided and abetted his crime (or entered into a conspiracy to commit a violent crime), making me criminally liable for his actions. If I know or should know that he is liable to be violent with the gun in general, and he goes off and kills someone, I can be found civilly liable for the destruction he causes (probably). On top of ALLLL of that, there is that big old law that makes his possession of a gun illegal, no matter how it is procured, and none of it requires a redefinition of "personal property".

But why SHOULDN'T the country's population centers control the elections? I've actually seen that sentiment a few times from people on this board.

Name names.

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