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What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.

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JoRR. Israel is not going anywhere. It's a geopolitical wet dream for the US.

Yes I'm aware of all of that. Yes I am aware both sides are trying to control the narrative with propaganda. Both sides have seriously bad actors. Don't try and feed me the infallible Israel myth.

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JoRR. Israel is not going anywhere. It's a geopolitical wet dream for the US.

Yes I'm aware of all of that. Yes I am aware both sides are trying to control the narrative with propaganda. Both sides have seriously bad actors. Don't try and feed me the infallible Israel myth.


Good people on both sides.

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What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Not zero part.

Probably 10%. Maybe 20.

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UN resolution background concerning Israel.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

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What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Then tell people you think they are misguided and educate them why you feel that way. I don't pay much attention to Middle East politics, but saying that anyone who says anything negative about Israel is "anti-Semitic" is counterproductive. I'm sure there is systemic anti-Semitism globally, but I don't think a lot of the posters on the Chicago Fanatics Message Board are part of some anti-Zionist movement. Most people don't even know enough about the situation to be classified as anti-Semetic. It sounds ridiculous.

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Israel is more evil than the rest of the world combined!

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Since Israel has such a real good track record of not indiscriminately murdering people I'm sure all those snipe kills were 100% justifiable.



That sure as shit was not murder. That was war actually. When a mob of thousands of people try and crash through your fences, that is an act of war to me and the attackers deserve what they get in return. It wasn't indiscriminate murder. It was planned defense of your country.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.



The anti semite, jew apologists are worse and more hyper sensitive than the pussy hat "I'm with her crowd" you rightfully loathe.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Well it can't possibly be that they are regularly and openly doing things deserving of condemnation, it MUST be anti-Semitism!


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Israel is more evil than the rest of the world combined!

You said you wanted everyone to take a look.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Well it can't possibly be that they are regularly and openly doing things deserving of condemnation, it MUST be anti-Semitism!


Are you really going to make an argument that Israel is a worse actor than every other country combined? And then insist that it is totally divorced from Jew hatred?

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Since Israel has such a real good track record of not indiscriminately murdering people I'm sure all those snipe kills were 100% justifiable.



That sure as shit was not murder. That was war actually. When a mob of thousands of people try and crash through your fences, that is an act of war to me and the attackers deserve what they get in return. It wasn't indiscriminate murder. It was planned defense of your country.

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Israel is more evil than the rest of the world combined!

You said you wanted everyone to take a look.



Yeah. To see how fucking ridiculous it is. Why do you think Israel is singled out so much? Are they really the worst actor on the planet? Is that what you're arguing while insisting NO ONE CARES ABOUT JEWS?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.



The anti semite, jew apologists are worse and more hyper sensitive than the pussy hat "I'm with her crowd" you rightfully loathe.


"Jew apologists." That's not anti-Semitic at all. :lol:

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JoRR you are the one constantly trying to bring religion into this argument. You obviously cannot separate Israel's actions from their religious beliefs.

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JoRR you are the one constantly trying to bring religion into this argument. You obviously cannot separate Israel's actions from their religious beliefs.



Do you think you can separate religion from Middle East conflict? What fantasyland are you living in?

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JoRR you are the one constantly trying to bring religion into this argument. You obviously cannot separate Israel's actions from their religious beliefs.

Why do they care about an embassy in Jerusalem if not for religion?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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JoRR you are the one constantly trying to bring religion into this argument. You obviously cannot separate Israel's actions from their religious beliefs.



Do you think you can separate religion from Middle East conflict? What fantasyland are you living in?

Am I a Muslim?

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JoRR you are the one constantly trying to bring religion into this argument. You obviously cannot separate Israel's actions from their religious beliefs.

Why do they care about an embassy in Jerusalem if not for religion?

Am I a Muslim?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.



The anti semite, jew apologists are worse and more hyper sensitive than the pussy hat "I'm with her crowd" you rightfully loathe.


"Jew apologists." That's not anti-Semitic at all. :lol:



Replace jew with Cutler or Mitch or Reinsdorph.. An apologist is just that.. You're reading into everything too deep.. Grab your pussy hat n I'm with her Tshirt ya hypersensitive jew apologist

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Well it can't possibly be that they are regularly and openly doing things deserving of condemnation, it MUST be anti-Semitism!


Are you really going to make an argument that Israel is a worse actor than every other country combined? And then insist that it is totally divorced from Jew hatred?


You're treating UN Resolutions with the undeserved infallibility you ascribe to pitching wins, I think. But to answer your question, no, I dont think that.

Do you think Israel doesn't do things worthy of condemnation on the regular? And how much of the condemnation is warranted, how much is driven by hatred of Jewish people, and how did you arrive at that distribution?


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Leave it 312 playa to boil this down to brass tacks.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Well it can't possibly be that they are regularly and openly doing things deserving of condemnation, it MUST be anti-Semitism!


Are you really going to make an argument that Israel is a worse actor than every other country combined? And then insist that it is totally divorced from Jew hatred?


You're treating UN Resolutions with the undeserved infallibility you ascribe to pitching wins, I think. But to answer your question, no, I dont think that.

Do you think Israel doesn't do things worthy of condemnation? And how much of the condemnation is warranted, how much is driven by hatred of Jewish people, and how did you arrive at that distribution?

There is a great quote from Thomas Friedman on the subject:

"Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest."

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I'd say the lack of UN resolutions re Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Turkey, etc. tells the story here. Any of those are far worse actors by any measure. People generally don't give a fuck about Middle East violence unless they can blame the Jews. That is most certainly antisemitism

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312player wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
312player wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.



The anti semite, jew apologists are worse and more hyper sensitive than the pussy hat "I'm with her crowd" you rightfully loathe.


"Jew apologists." That's not anti-Semitic at all. :lol:



Replace jew with Cutler or Mitch or Reinsdorph.. An apologist is just that.. You're reading into everything too deep.. Grab your pussy hat n I'm with her Tshirt ya hypersensitive jew apologist


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Well it can't possibly be that they are regularly and openly doing things deserving of condemnation, it MUST be anti-Semitism!


Are you really going to make an argument that Israel is a worse actor than every other country combined? And then insist that it is totally divorced from Jew hatred?


You're treating UN Resolutions with the undeserved infallibility you ascribe to pitching wins, I think. But to answer your question, no, I dont think that.

Do you think Israel doesn't do things worthy of condemnation? And how much of the condemnation is warranted, how much is driven by hatred of Jewish people, and how did you arrive at that distribution?

There is a great quote from Thomas Friedman on the subject:

"Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest."

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I'd say the lack of UN resolutions re Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Turkey, etc. tells the story here. Any of those are far worse actors by any measure. People generally don't give a fuck about Middle East violence unless they can blame the Jews. That is most certainly antisemitism

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
What is Peeps saying that is wrong? The whole "calling everyone anti-Semites" thing is ridiculously over the top.


Do you really think that anti-Semitism plays zero part in the way Israel is judged by a different standard than any other country?

Look at the U.N. resolutions. Why do you think Israel is rebuked so much more than any other country? More than Iran. More than North Korea. More than Russia or Syria.


Well it can't possibly be that they are regularly and openly doing things deserving of condemnation, it MUST be anti-Semitism!


Are you really going to make an argument that Israel is a worse actor than every other country combined? And then insist that it is totally divorced from Jew hatred?


You're treating UN Resolutions with the undeserved infallibility you ascribe to pitching wins, I think. But to answer your question, no, I dont think that.

Do you think Israel doesn't do things worthy of condemnation? And how much of the condemnation is warranted, how much is driven by hatred of Jewish people, and how did you arrive at that distribution?

There is a great quote from Thomas Friedman on the subject:

"Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest."

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I'd say the lack of UN resolutions re Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Turkey, etc. tells the story here. Any of those are far worse actors by any measure



This is the "if you don't talk about every bad thing when pointing out one bad thing you are excusing all those other things" tu quoque-ism regularly employed by leftists, and we know how intellectually dishonest that is. I am unimpressed.

Pointing out the bad shot Israel does isnt "singling out" Israel. If they didnt want people pointing out the bad shit they do, maybe they should stop doing bad shit instead of calling people anti-Semitic. Isnt that right Mr. If They Would Have Just Complied They Wouldn't Have Been Shot?


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Leave it 312 playa to boil this down to brass tacks.



Jorr is a sharp guy.. He should see this shit and recognize it.. I wouldn't waste my time with 75%of these dipshits who've made their mind up.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
There is a great quote from Thomas Friedman on the subject:

"Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest."

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I'd say the lack of UN resolutions re Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Turkey, etc. tells the story here. Any of those are far worse actors by any measure. People generally don't give a fuck about Middle East violence unless they can blame the Jews. That is most certainly antisemitism

:lol:

GTFO

Have you heard of ISIS? Or the Taliban?

No one cared about ISIS until they started operating in Europe and no one cared about the Taliban until 9/11

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
There is a great quote from Thomas Friedman on the subject:

"Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, and saying so is vile. But singling out Israel for opprobrium and international sanction out of all proportion to any other party in the Middle East is anti-Semitic, and not saying so is dishonest."

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I'd say the lack of UN resolutions re Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Turkey, etc. tells the story here. Any of those are far worse actors by any measure



This is the "if you don't talk about every bad thing when pointing out one bad thing you are excusing all those other things" tu quoque-ism regularly employed by leftists, and we know how intellectually dishonest that is. I am unimpressed.

Pointing out the bad shot Israel does isnt "singling out" Israel. If they didnt want people pointing out the bad shit they do, maybe they should stop doing bad shit instead of calling people anti-Semitic. Isnt that right Mr. If They Would Have Just Complied They Wouldn't Have Been Shot?

This is speaking about the UN and UN resolutions. Clearly the UN is certainly 1 sided and when they act 1 sided against the single Jewish state, it is fair to say that this is driven by antisemitsm.

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