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Donald Trump just can't be President. He just can't.


A vote for Hillary is a vote for globalism, fascism and the destruction of nations. Look who is lining up to donate now...the Koch Brothers, Open Society, no borders and return to serfdom types. A vote for Trump is a vote against those things listed above. It ain't a pretty choice but you have a choice of where you want to plant your flag. People will realize that when they are alone in the voting booth come November. If Reuters is already changing the way they do their polling to swing it back to Hillary you know our monarchs to be are scared.

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I think they're both bad people but Hillary is smarter and more prepared for the job.


Oh and I'd like to stop the "return to open prejudice" that Trump has ushered in.


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Donald Trump just can't be President. He just can't.


A vote for Hillary is a vote for globalism, fascism and the destruction of nations. Look who is lining up to donate now...the Koch Brothers, Open Society, no borders and return to serfdom types. A vote for Trump is a vote against those things listed above. It ain't a pretty choice but you have a choice of where you want to plant your flag. People will realize that when they are alone in the voting booth come November. If Reuters is already changing the way they do their polling to swing it back to Hillary you know our monarchs to be are scared.

#SayNoToSerfdom
#KochIsBadWhenDonatingToBushButNoBigDealWithHillary.
#HoldYourNoseVoteForAmerica
#Trump2016


You think that Trump stands for anything other than himself? He has no policy other than sounding good, in his own mind, at that moment.

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Donald Trump just can't be President. He just can't.


A vote for Hillary is a vote for globalism, fascism and the destruction of nations. Look who is lining up to donate now...the Koch Brothers, Open Society, no borders and return to serfdom types. A vote for Trump is a vote against those things listed above. It ain't a pretty choice but you have a choice of where you want to plant your flag. People will realize that when they are alone in the voting booth come November. If Reuters is already changing the way they do their polling to swing it back to Hillary you know our monarchs to be are scared.

#SayNoToSerfdom
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#Trump2016


You think that Trump stands for anything other than himself? He has no policy other than sounding good, in his own mind, at that moment.


It isn't about what Trump is for or against at this point. This is bigger than what a certain candidates tax plan is. Grander themes are at play here.


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[quote="SomeGuy"][quote="WaitingforRuffcorn"][quote="SomeGuy"][quote="rogers park bryan"]Donald Trump just can't be President. He just can't.[/quote]

A vote for Hillary is a vote for globalism, fascism and the destruction of nations. Look who is lining up to donate now...the Koch Brothers, Open Society, no borders and return to serfdom types. A vote for Trump is a vote against those things listed above. It ain't a pretty choice but you have a choice of where you want to plant your flag. People will realize that when they are alone in the voting booth come November. If Reuters is already changing the way they do their polling to swing it back to Hillary you know our monarchs to be are scared.

#SayNoToSerfdom
#KochIsBadWhenDonatingToBushButNoBigDealWithHillary.
#HoldYourNoseVoteForAmerica
#Trump2016[/quote]

You think that Trump stands for anything other than himself? He has no policy other than sounding good, in his own mind, at that moment.[/quote]

It isn't about what Trump is for or against at this point. This is bigger than what a certain candidates tax plan is. Grander themes are at play here.[/quote]

Agreed. It's about making sure that motherfucker doesn't start WW3.

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SomeGuy wrote:
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SomeGuy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Donald Trump just can't be President. He just can't.


A vote for Hillary is a vote for globalism, fascism and the destruction of nations. Look who is lining up to donate now...the Koch Brothers, Open Society, no borders and return to serfdom types. A vote for Trump is a vote against those things listed above. It ain't a pretty choice but you have a choice of where you want to plant your flag. People will realize that when they are alone in the voting booth come November. If Reuters is already changing the way they do their polling to swing it back to Hillary you know our monarchs to be are scared.

#SayNoToSerfdom
#KochIsBadWhenDonatingToBushButNoBigDealWithHillary.
#HoldYourNoseVoteForAmerica
#Trump2016


You think that Trump stands for anything other than himself? He has no policy other than sounding good, in his own mind, at that moment.


It isn't about what Trump is for or against at this point. This is bigger than what a certain candidates tax plan is. Grander themes are at play here.


Interesting to watch the spread the wealth around folks here line up behind Hillary now.

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.


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Interesting to watch the spread the wealth around folks here line up behind Hillary now.


Wouldn't call pointing out Trump is worthless, lining up behind Hillary.

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.



Wasn't Romney pilloried by the Democrats for suggesting our greatest enemy was Russia? It seems that suddenly the Democrats have concurred.

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.



Wasn't Romney pilloried by the Democrats for suggesting our greatest enemy was Russia? It seems that suddenly the Democrats have concurred.

What difference does it make?


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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.



Wasn't Romney pilloried by the Democrats for suggesting our greatest enemy was Russia? It seems that suddenly the Democrats have concurred.

What difference does it make?


Are you serious or quoting Hillary?

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.



Wasn't Romney pilloried by the Democrats for suggesting our greatest enemy was Russia? It seems that suddenly the Democrats have concurred.


I honestly don't care. All these things just muddy the water to me. The Democrats are inconsistent... great. Hillary's done a lot worse than that, and I can't stand her. Great.

Doesn't change the fact that I don't want a complete maniac with no regard for anything in the White House. I'll take evil, corrupt, inconsistent, whatever you want over him.

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SomeGuy wrote:
Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.


No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us. People can think and say the things he's said about Muslims all they want. The president simply can't say them. And he's almost certainly going to say similar things and create problems with other countries/affiliations out there.

Hillary... evil? Yup. Liar? Yup. Inconsistent? Yup. Disingenuous? Yup.

... and I still think she is the absolutely only choice, given the two primary candidates.

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.



Wasn't Romney pilloried by the Democrats for suggesting our greatest enemy was Russia? It seems that suddenly the Democrats have concurred.


I honestly don't care. All these things just muddy the water to me. The Democrats are inconsistent... great. Hillary's done a lot worse than that, and I can't stand her. Great.

Doesn't change the fact that I don't want a complete maniac with no regard for anything in the White House. I'll take evil, corrupt, inconsistent, whatever you want over him.


I prefer her to him as well, though not by much. But I think some of the alarmist screeching about Trump is over the top. What do you think he's going to do?

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.


No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


they kind of already do hate us.


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Trump would be a disaster on so many levels. First of all is the fact that he'd be easily the most incompetent person to ever hold office. Secondly is the fact that he lacks the proper temperament to hold office. There would be a non stop effort to dominate every news cycle and win all public opinion polls. Thirdly is the fact that he would not be able to get any other politicians to work with him. 4. His rhetoric will have pissed off and alienated the 2 largest minority groups in this country by the time he is elected President.

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There would be a non stop effort to dominate every news cycle and win all public opinion polls. Thirdly is the fact that he would not be able to get any other politicians to work with him. 4. His rhetoric will have pissed off and alienated the 2 largest minority groups in this country by the time he is elected President


last i checked obama wasn't eactly enabling bi-partisan support on many issues.... kind of why i personally think it doesnt matter who wins, nothing will change


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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.



Wasn't Romney pilloried by the Democrats for suggesting our greatest enemy was Russia? It seems that suddenly the Democrats have concurred.


I honestly don't care. All these things just muddy the water to me. The Democrats are inconsistent... great. Hillary's done a lot worse than that, and I can't stand her. Great.

Doesn't change the fact that I don't want a complete maniac with no regard for anything in the White House. I'll take evil, corrupt, inconsistent, whatever you want over him.


I prefer her to him as well, though not by much. But I think some of the alarmist screeching about Trump is over the top. What do you think he's going to do?


I haven't the slightest idea. That's the problem. He clearly doesn't even have the knowledge necessary to articulate a platform, and he's completely unhinged and unpredictable.

I was discussing this with a friend the other day... I generally don't believe a president has that much power. If we were talking a run-of-the-mill person who I disagreed with on, let's say, every single issue, I wouldn't care. The issue is that the executive branch has basically gained unchecked power as the commander-in-chief due to the last few presidents. I do not feel comfortable with Trump as commander-in-chief because he could basically do anything he wanted without anyone else's approval. The ramifications of that are mind-boggling. I also have no faith that he even has any allegiance to the U.S. Despite what anyone thinks about Hillary, at the very least, she cares about how she is perceived and her legacy enough not to do anything extremely crazy. I'm unsure at what point rational people like yourself stop downplaying the things he says and does simply because of hatred for the Clintons. There was a point during the primaries when I may have hated Hillary more than any person on Earth. It doesn't change the fact, for me, that Trump must not become the U.S. president, and it's crazy to me that more don't feel the same way.

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.


No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


they kind of already do hate us.


Kinda? :lol: :lol:

Our "allies" there funded the 9/11 groups.

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.


No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


they kind of already do hate us.


Kinda? :lol: :lol:

Our "allies" there funded the 9/11 groups.


:lol: :lol: :( :( :lol: :lol:

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.



Name the "good" ones.

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.



Name the "good" ones.


spmack, nas, Darkside.....

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.



Name the "good" ones.


spmack, nas, Darkside.....


That's three more then the fear mongers will pull out of the Middle East. :lol: :lol:

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.



Name the "good" ones.


Even if you didn't think there were individual "good" countries, there are individual "good" people within those countries who are valuable to the West... unless we want to start a Holy War against billions of people.

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.



Name the "good" ones.


spmack, nas, Darkside.....


That's three more then the fear mongers will pull out of the Middle East. :lol: :lol:


:lol: Fear mongers. It's pretty clear at this point that you are a Trump supporter, and you're the one making accusations of fear-mongering? That's precious.

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.



Name the "good" ones.


Even if you didn't think there were individual "good" countries, there are individual "good" people within those countries who are valuable to the West... unless we want to start a Holy War against billions of people.


You stated there were "good ones" in the Middle East.

Keep saying I'm a Trump supporter for asking you to back up what you posted.

I'm not interested in a Holy War, just a list of who you believe these countries are.

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Here is the thing, Brother Leash, taking a more cooperative and less hostile tone with Russia means WW3?

I understand the loose cannon stuff, but if The Big One was to break out it would be between the old guard over the Eastern Europe and Baltic States.



Wasn't Romney pilloried by the Democrats for suggesting our greatest enemy was Russia? It seems that suddenly the Democrats have concurred.


I think the 47% comment had something to do with it.

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No, but he's almost certainly going to make the entire Middle East hate us.


Because they don't already?


Of course they do, but any sliver of good will with any of "the good ones" will be completely gone.



Name the "good" ones.


Even if you didn't think there were individual "good" countries, there are individual "good" people within those countries who are valuable to the West... unless we want to start a Holy War against billions of people.


You stated there were "good ones" in the Middle East.

Keep saying I'm a Trump supporter for asking you to back up what you posted.

I'm not interested in a Holy War, just a list of who you believe these countries are.


I didn't say countries. I literally said "ones" - and I'm referring to the population of Muslims as a whole. Are you saying that there's not a single "good" Muslim in the world?

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