That's right. We have to let the families grieve. Let's send our thoughts and prayers first. We can get around to labeling him later.

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Yup. Terrorist.

Now you can stop being mad at people Twitter who are mad about dumb labels.

I'm fine with either definition of "terrorism". Let's just pick one and stick to it. I think the broader definition then necessitates a discussion about how it applies to other areas of our society, and if I had my druthers we would stick to the politically-oriented definition, but the existence of the two distinct definitions, able to be substituted at will by anybody, simply creates confusion and disingenuous arguments.

....And you wonder why people think you're an asshole.

You've proven through your posting that if this dude's name was Mohammaed Ak Bin Bar that you would be absolutely ape shit about how this needs to be stopped.

It's a 23 year old white dude so "it's only the liberals who are mad"

Go fuck an elephant.

Can we stop using "people on twitter" as some barometer of the country? Do you really think this is how the majority of people in the country feels? It's a couple of unemployed retards who believe their thoughts are meaningful. It's the same when conservative twitter declares some random "victory".

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Take a look at which posters on here have their panties in a know over calling this guy what he is. There's your answer.

That's a solid point.

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Terrorist is basically used as "really bad murderer" now. Its like calling someone a racist. Just a general insult meant to destroy the character of the object of derision, but ultimately meaningless words due to their repeated overuse and misuse.

Who cares what they call this guy?
Asshole. Terrorist.
He's fucking dead.
And the world is a slightly better place.

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I rest my case.

I also feel this is a side shot at JLN. He worked very hard googling/aggregating those tweets.

When Sameer Al-Hajeed went on a shooting spree I wasn't in a rush to do anything

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Yes and yes. These people will be back in control of the government by 2025 at the latest. Good luck.

I never said anything like this. I don't care what we label him.

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"People on twitter" programmed your favorite radio show for going on 2 years. All of a sudden it's a problem?

You guys are arguing about a problem that doesn't exist.

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Welcome to CFMB.

WTF? you started the argument with your post of those aggregated tweets.

Am I not a member of the CFMB?

Aren't you against the concept of "hate crimes"?

If a guy is looking to commit mass murder then he is a terrorist.

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How many does it take to qualify as mass murder?
I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm serious.

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I always thought of terrorism as a foreigner looking to make a political statement. But over the years, authoritarian regimes have used the term to discredit opposition groups especially ones that use military style tactics.

But as this story unfolded, I certainly felt the individual doing it was creating terror. So yeah, that term certainly applies here.

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I think there are some times the label would be arguable but in the case of leaving/mailing many bombs I think it's pretty clear that it is an attempt at mass murder.

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Yes, I am. I was speaking about the general use and definition of "terrorism" and such, not the legal definition and use. I am wary of crimes that effectively criminalize intent, up to and including ones dealing with terrorism.



So this is a third distinct definition, now? All mass murder is terrorism, regardless of whether it causes terror in others? Can a single murder or anything less than murder be terrorism?

This.

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here we go

This is easily domestic terrorism. Full stop.

So, you have no problem with a crime being labeled a hate crime outside of the courtroom?
It's not a distinct definition at all. You can terrorize without killing anyone but attempting to kill many people is terrorism.

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