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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:22 am

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

long time guy wrote:

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long time guy wrote:

mrgoodkat wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Did the dispatcher specifically ask about her race or did he volunteer the information?

If the cops showed up then they would know the description of the person, including race. There are at least 5 things they absolutely ask. If they didn't respond then I suppose they might not ask but that is usually reserved for people calling the cops for the wrong toppings on their pizza. Im guessing they responded. And Im willing to bet this woman made a scene worth calling them because that's what many modern human beings do now when they are told no.

Im also willing to bet we never see the entire video of the exchange just like we didn't with the Starbucks thing. The narrative is created. Full steam ahead. America is horribly racist despite the statistics that suggest otherwise. The statistics actually suggest that when compared to other countries the US is remarkably tolerant, and safe. That doesn't sell news.

The manager at that Starbucks was a seriously progressive person, politically. People who know her have come to her defense on reddit and elsewhere but the media isnt covering it. Somewhere, the video exists of her being verbally accosted for an hour or so until she felt the need to call the police. Facts dont matter. Great times.

There are too many presumptions in this statement. No.1 she must have caused a scene because that is what "modern human beings do when they are told no".
She might have caused a scene because she had a perfectly legitimate coupon that she knew was legit so why wasn't he honoring it?

If the coupon was fake she wouldn't have displayed it for the world to see. She more than likely wouldn't be doing interviews either.

There were other people in the store besides those 2 and maybe they backed up her version of what happened. Also if she is the perpetrator of the conflict then why does did the other employee get fired as well?

"You're making too many presumptions to be taken seriously, now here is an updating list of my presumptions about the same thing."

Yeah but you conveniently ignore relevant points that were made (And your own list pf presumptions) for the purpose of doing what exactly. You didn't provide one piece of information that was relevant to anything that occurred in the store and your presumptions (such as the scanning of the coupon) were incorrect. So was the point relative to whether or not it was a valid coupon or not. The validity of the coupon was the reason behind the disagreement in the first place.

So they would have fired the guy even if the coupon was bogus simply to avoid the all important twitter beefing that would have ensued? They also would have issued a statement and risked the possibility of a lawsuit by implying that there was some level of discrimination on the part of the employees because they were afraid of the political backlash from whom exactly?

As usual you're short on factual evidence but long on assumptions and innuendo. Back to the drawing board and simply read for a change.

You have evidence that the coupon was real?

Do you have evidence that it was fake?

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:24 am

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long time guy wrote:

Or are you simply making it up as you do with most everything else?

Speaking of making things up...

long time guy wrote:

If the coupon was fake she wouldn't have displayed it for the world to see. She more than likely wouldn't be doing interviews either.

There were other people in the store besides those 2 and maybe they backed up her version of what happened.

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:35 am

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I’d be interested to hear what CVS policy ( or how are their employees are held accountable ) is if it turns out an employee accepts a coupon that ends up being fraudulent .

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:38 am

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long time guy wrote:

Do you have evidence that it was fake?

I looked at it. And I am guessing it would not scan otherwise why would the staff reject it?

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:41 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Or are you simply making it up as you do with most everything else?

Speaking of making things up...

long time guy wrote:

Well Columbo the store reps stated that they conducted an investigation. Do you think their investigation involved talks with the man on the moon?

This is the "displayed" coupon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... oupon.html

Also making an inference isn't the same as "making something up" I'd expect a noted logician such as yourself to actually know that but that would be simply asking too much apparently.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:44 am

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Well, ltg, the CVS investigation has positively nothing to do with what I posted.

Fact is you do not know if she would have willingly displayed a fake coupon, would be doing interviews, or if there were other customers inside the store. You simply made those things up then presented them as facts. Now you are asking about something that is 100% irrelevant to your quotes that I posted.

Same MO out of you. Make things up, lie, change the argument, and all that's left is the personal attack/insult.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:48 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Its called an inference based on the available information. It is no difference than any other person that made an inference about this but since you have difficulty with disguising your inherent biases its difficult for you to get past it.

Do you want me to show all of the other people that "made stuff up in this one thread to validate the point?

Do you want me to further illustrate how much of a liar you happen to be? Its easily doable.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:50 am

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Do you have evidence that it was fake?

I looked at it. And I am guessing it would not scan otherwise why would the staff reject it?

Because they were unfamiliar with it.

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spmack

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:51 am

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mrgoodkat wrote:

America is horribly racist despite the statistics that suggest otherwise.

So we're gonna compare the US to other countries, now? You're better than this Mr. Good Kat.

And were you aware that the poster America in this thread said that Black people are trash, jokingly or not?

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:55 am

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badrogue17 wrote:

I’d be interested to hear what CVS policy ( or how are their employees are held accountable ) is if it turns out an employee accepts a coupon that ends up being fraudulent .

Might have to pay out of their pocket. I've had certain employees from different franchises (particularly fast food) tell me that if their register is short or someone passes them a counterfeit bill it comes out of their check. Don't recall anyone stating that they'd be terminated.

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:56 am

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long time guy wrote:

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Do you have evidence that it was fake?

I looked at it. And I am guessing it would not scan otherwise why would the staff reject it?

Because they were unfamiliar with it.

This is a very simple question that I have not gotten an answer to: Did she try to scan the coupon at a self-checkout register, and if she did, was it rejected?

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:58 am

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long time guy wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

I’d be interested to hear what CVS policy ( or how are their employees are held accountable ) is if it turns out an employee accepts a coupon that ends up being fraudulent .

The maximum value on that coupon was $17.99. Is the guy supposed to lay nearly $20 of his own money just so Twitter doesn't cost him his job? What's a manager of a CVS pulling down, anyway, 50K a year, max? Googles gives me 57K pre-tax as the median.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:00 am

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long time guy wrote:

Its called an inference

Sugar coat it however you want. A lie is a lie.

long time guy wrote:

Do you want me to show all of the other people that "made stuff up in this one thread to validate the point?

What other people said has nothing to do with what you posted. Stop deflecting.

long time guy wrote:

Do you want me to further illustrate how much of a liar you happen to be? Its easily doable.

I have not lied in this thread. Stop deflecting and address my initial quotes of yours.

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Telegram Sam

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:02 am

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Why don't you guys meet up at Broadway and Granville and walk through the whole thing together. I man, clearly you won't be missed at work for a couple hours.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:02 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Its called an inference

Sugar coat it however you want. A lie is a lie.

long time guy wrote:

Do you want me to show all of the other people that "made stuff up in this one thread to validate the point?

What other people said has nothing to do with what you posted. Stop deflecting.

long time guy wrote:

Do you want me to further illustrate how much of a liar you happen to be? Its easily doable.

I have not lied in this thread. Stop deflecting and address my initial quotes of yours.

You lied when you said that i made up the part about her displaying the coupon for starters. You also lied about me making stuff up.

Its not my fault that you do not know what an inference happens to be.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:03 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Fact is you do not know if she would have willingly displayed a fake coupon, would be doing interviews

I am not lying by posting things that YOU said, ltg.

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:04 am

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Telegram Sam wrote:

Why don't you guys meet up at Broadway and Granville and walk through the whole thing together. I man, clearly you won't be missed at work for a couple hours.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:04 am

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Telegram Sam wrote:

Why don't you guys meet up at Broadway and Granville and walk through the whole thing together. I man, clearly you won't be missed at work for a couple hours.

I have no interest in meeting that Bozo. I'm good.

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KDdidit

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:06 am

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Weird, none of the CVSii by me have self checkout.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:06 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Fact is you do not know if she would have willingly displayed a fake coupon, would be doing interviews

I am not lying by posting things that YOU said, ltg.

Here is her providing the actual coupon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... oupon.html

You are lying now and continuing to lie by denying it. That is an inference based on evidence provided by her. Nothing is made up and you stupid (once again) by arguing otherwise.

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:08 am

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KDdidit wrote:

Weird, none of the CVSii by me have self checkout.

All the ones i've been in or noticed have them. I hate self checkouts. I rarely use them and the one located near me sort of encourages its customers to use them.

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:10 am

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long time guy wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Fact is you do not know if she would have willingly displayed a fake coupon, would be doing interviews

I am not lying by posting things that YOU said, ltg.

Do you know if that is a fake coupon? I don't.
Do you know if she would be displaying a fake coupon? I don't.

YOU said these things, not me. Stop lying and stop deflecting.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:10 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

long time guy wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

I’d be interested to hear what CVS policy ( or how are their employees are held accountable ) is if it turns out an employee accepts a coupon that ends up being fraudulent .

Can you explain to Frank how you are making inference and not making stuff up? He seems a tad bit confused unsurprisingly?

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:12 am

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Stop worrying about what you assume I don't know, and worry about learning these words;

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:12 am

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Are Log Cabin Republicans the gay ones?

Yes.

Not found in all stories related to the incident which is prolly why DT missed it.

Ok thanks, I could not remember. Seems odd that someone that could be discriminated against would actively discriminate against someone. There are all sorts of people though so no surprise.

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:14 am

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long time guy wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

long time guy wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

I’d be interested to hear what CVS policy ( or how are their employees are held accountable ) is if it turns out an employee accepts a coupon that ends up being fraudulent .

Can you explain to Frank how you are making inference and not making stuff up? He seems a tad bit confused unsurprisingly?

What did I "make up" in the post of mine you just quoted? I made an approximation of the salary of the manager based on what I know managers make in other retail stores, and as it turns out I wasn't too far off.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:14 am

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

long time guy wrote:

If he didn't follow proper protocol in determining whether the coupon was legit or not that would be cause for termination.

She said that he didn't scan the coupon.

Didn't she try to scan the coupon? Wasn't that the whole reason for the encounter?

In the interview she says he looked at the coupon and decided that it was phony.

And why was he over there looking at the coupon in the first place? Did he just come up and yank it out of her hands, or did she call him over for assistance? I've seen conflicting reports about where she actually was trying to check out at in the store, self-checkout or at a manned register.

There are no conflicting reports from her and you just contradicted your own assumption that there were no other people inside the store. With that being the case then where are the conflicting reports coming from? The terminated employees have not commented as of yet and you just claimed that my assertion regarding other people being inside the store was "presumptuous". With that being the case where are you getting these "conflicting reports" from exactly? Or are you simply making it up as you do with most everything else?

I never said anything about other people being in the store, and some stories on it mention a self-checkout machine and others just jump straight to her interaction with the employee and then manager.

Where did the conflicting reports come from then? What was your source for those reports?

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long time guy wrote:

KDdidit wrote:

Weird, none of the CVSii by me have self checkout.

All the ones i've been in or noticed have them. I hate self checkouts. I rarely use them and the one located near me sort of encourages its customers to use them.

I have seen them in every one here. Further they pay a rep to stand there and coerce you into using them.

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:15 am

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pittmike wrote:

Are Log Cabin Republicans the gay ones?

Yes.

Not found in all stories related to the incident which is prolly why DT missed it.

I don't much care if he's a Log Cabin Republican or works for Log Cabin Syrup ... it has no bearing on him being a state delegate for Trump. MANY of Trump's supporters were eagerly chomping at the bit to vote against their own interests ... apparently this cat is just another one of those dopes.

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Post subject: Re: #CouponBill - Chicago CVS Incident

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:16 am

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long time guy wrote:

Where did the conflicting reports come from then? What was your source for those reports?

The ABC7 story linked earlier in the thread didn't mention a self-checkout kiosk in its detailing of the events, neither did a few other outlets (DailyMail, I think?), but a Gawker piece and some other outlet did mention she was at a kiosk first. Thus, conflicting.

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