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You’d think the Hope and Change Messiah would’ve done something about this in the 8 years he was making policy .


If he had then the same nothing is ever racist crowd would complain that he was "race baiting" and "playing the race card". Guys like Pittmike for instance.


Deal with it clown. Oblamo didn't do anything. Didn't want to upset those Trump voters in 2012 against Romney.


Oh great. Another resident bigot with a hard on for blacks decides to chime in for the purpose of providing absolutely nothing. You would have been among the first piece of shit posters bashing him if he did decide to do something.


Barry did nothing about statues, army bases, etc. He is a total fraud. Deal with it. I'm out. Spent 5 minutes here it's enough for the day.

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tommy wrote:
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You’d think the Hope and Change Messiah would’ve done something about this in the 8 years he was making policy .


If he had then the same nothing is ever racist crowd would complain that he was "race baiting" and "playing the race card". Guys like Pittmike for instance.


Deal with it clown. Oblamo didn't do anything. Didn't want to upset those Trump voters in 2012 against Romney.


Oh great. Another resident bigot with a hard on for blacks decides to chime in for the purpose of providing absolutely nothing. You would have been among the first piece of shit posters bashing him if he did decide to do something.


Barry did nothing about statues, army bases, etc. He is a total fraud. Deal with it. I'm out. Spent 5 minutes here it's enough for the day.

He's changed now a bit, but he was pretty moderate culturally as President. He bent over backwards to be moderate. The Republicans were the intolerant, "we won't make a deal" ones.


Whenever there was even a hint of cultural identification i.e. Trayvon Martin comments, Republicans jumped down his throat. Ironically Trump can be as bigoted and identity laced as he wants to be and the very same group of people will excuse it.

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Whenever there was even a hint of cultural identification i.e. Trayvon Martin comments, Republicans jumped down his throat. Ironically Trump can be as bigoted and identity laced as he wants to be and the very same group of people will excuse it.

That was one of the few comments he made (besides the poet he had at his inauguration) that might seem identitarian, but it was still the truth. Maybe the other was the Henry Louis Gates one, but he backtracked a little and then did the most sensible thing. But the right slammed him for both, and it was disingenuous of them to do so, at least in my reckoning.
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Celebrating it for MANY years.

Exactly how do you celebrate Juneteenth?


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Whenever there was even a hint of cultural identification i.e. Trayvon Martin comments, Republicans jumped down his throat. Ironically Trump can be as bigoted and identity laced as he wants to be and the very same group of people will excuse it.

That was one of the few comments he made (besides the poet he had at his inauguration) that might seem identitarian, but it was still the truth. Maybe the other was the Henry Louis Gates one, but he backtracked a little and then did the most sensible thing. But the right slammed him for both, and it was disingenuous of them to do so, at least in my reckoning.


He was so compromised by his race that he had to lie about never "having heard him talk like that" when discussing Jeremiah Wright. There is no way that he could have sat in Wright's church for as long as he did and not heard him discuss the issue of race. No way. He was so compromised by it that he had to disavow Wright, his "spiritual godfather" in order to appease people that might not ordinarily vote for him. Meanwhile Trump is allowed to keep the Stephen Millers, Sebastian Gorkas, and Steve Bannons of the world quite close to him and not so much as a whimper as to whether he "thinks like them" from his rather hypocritical supporters.

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Whenever there was even a hint of cultural identification i.e. Trayvon Martin comments, Republicans jumped down his throat. Ironically Trump can be as bigoted and identity laced as he wants to be and the very same group of people will excuse it.

That was one of the few comments he made (besides the poet he had at his inauguration) that might seem identitarian, but it was still the truth. Maybe the other was the Henry Louis Gates one, but he backtracked a little and then did the most sensible thing. But the right slammed him for both, and it was disingenuous of them to do so, at least in my reckoning.


He was so compromised by his race that he had to lie about never "having heard him talk like that" when discussing Jeremiah Wright. There is no way that he could have sat in Wright's church for as long as he did and not heard him discuss the issue of race. No way. He was so compromised by it that he had to disavow Wright, his "spiritual godfather" in order to appease people that might not ordinarily vote for him. Meanwhile Trump is allowed to keep the Stephen Millers, Sebastian Gorkas, and Steve Bannons of the world quite close to him and not so much as a whimper as to whether he "thinks like them" from his rather hypocritical supporters.

Blessing in disguise for him, though, in the long run. I think the speech he gave after that brou-ha-ha won him the election.
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long time guy wrote:
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Whenever there was even a hint of cultural identification i.e. Trayvon Martin comments, Republicans jumped down his throat. Ironically Trump can be as bigoted and identity laced as he wants to be and the very same group of people will excuse it.

That was one of the few comments he made (besides the poet he had at his inauguration) that might seem identitarian, but it was still the truth. Maybe the other was the Henry Louis Gates one, but he backtracked a little and then did the most sensible thing. But the right slammed him for both, and it was disingenuous of them to do so, at least in my reckoning.


He was so compromised by his race that he had to lie about never "having heard him talk like that" when discussing Jeremiah Wright. There is no way that he could have sat in Wright's church for as long as he did and not heard him discuss the issue of race. No way. He was so compromised by it that he had to disavow Wright, his "spiritual godfather" in order to appease people that might not ordinarily vote for him. Meanwhile Trump is allowed to keep the Stephen Millers, Sebastian Gorkas, and Steve Bannons of the world quite close to him and not so much as a whimper as to whether he "thinks like them" from his rather hypocritical supporters.


he was compromised for even having to pretend he was religious

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good dolphin wrote:
long time guy wrote:
tommy wrote:
long time guy wrote:

Whenever there was even a hint of cultural identification i.e. Trayvon Martin comments, Republicans jumped down his throat. Ironically Trump can be as bigoted and identity laced as he wants to be and the very same group of people will excuse it.

That was one of the few comments he made (besides the poet he had at his inauguration) that might seem identitarian, but it was still the truth. Maybe the other was the Henry Louis Gates one, but he backtracked a little and then did the most sensible thing. But the right slammed him for both, and it was disingenuous of them to do so, at least in my reckoning.


He was so compromised by his race that he had to lie about never "having heard him talk like that" when discussing Jeremiah Wright. There is no way that he could have sat in Wright's church for as long as he did and not heard him discuss the issue of race. No way. He was so compromised by it that he had to disavow Wright, his "spiritual godfather" in order to appease people that might not ordinarily vote for him. Meanwhile Trump is allowed to keep the Stephen Millers, Sebastian Gorkas, and Steve Bannons of the world quite close to him and not so much as a whimper as to whether he "thinks like them" from his rather hypocritical supporters.


he was compromised for even having to pretend he was religious


As most recent presidents have been. A proclaimed atheist could not be elected to the office.

Frankly, I'm surprised that Trump has gotten away without pretending to be religious. At this point I suppose it was a matter of the Evangelicals having no place else to go. They aren't going to vote for an abortionist.

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Frankly, I'm surprised that Trump has gotten away without pretending to be religious. At this point I suppose it was a matter of the Evangelicals having no place else to go. They aren't going to vote for an abortionist.


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Frankly, I'm surprised that Trump has gotten away without pretending to be religious. At this point I suppose it was a matter of the Evangelicals having no place else to go. They aren't going to vote for an abortionist.


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:lol: Usually nobody votes for the vice president, though this time around should be an exception. Remember, we had a guy who didn't know how to spell potato.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
long time guy wrote:
tommy wrote:
long time guy wrote:

Whenever there was even a hint of cultural identification i.e. Trayvon Martin comments, Republicans jumped down his throat. Ironically Trump can be as bigoted and identity laced as he wants to be and the very same group of people will excuse it.

That was one of the few comments he made (besides the poet he had at his inauguration) that might seem identitarian, but it was still the truth. Maybe the other was the Henry Louis Gates one, but he backtracked a little and then did the most sensible thing. But the right slammed him for both, and it was disingenuous of them to do so, at least in my reckoning.


He was so compromised by his race that he had to lie about never "having heard him talk like that" when discussing Jeremiah Wright. There is no way that he could have sat in Wright's church for as long as he did and not heard him discuss the issue of race. No way. He was so compromised by it that he had to disavow Wright, his "spiritual godfather" in order to appease people that might not ordinarily vote for him. Meanwhile Trump is allowed to keep the Stephen Millers, Sebastian Gorkas, and Steve Bannons of the world quite close to him and not so much as a whimper as to whether he "thinks like them" from his rather hypocritical supporters.


he was compromised for even having to pretend he was religious


As most recent presidents have been. A proclaimed atheist could not be elected to the office.

Frankly, I'm surprised that Trump has gotten away without pretending to be religious. At this point I suppose it was a matter of the Evangelicals having no place else to go. They aren't going to vote for an abortionist.



If we are honest with ourselves, few of us have anywhere to go in the 2020 election.

AGAIN.

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Nardi wrote:
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Celebrating it for MANY years.

Exactly how do you celebrate Juneteenth?


Golden Jet kisses your feet if you are black.

Well, he'll have to get in his car and drive like 20 miles.


You're not good with geography.

Nor do you have a clue about me personally.

Keep shooting those blanks.

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GoldenJet wrote:
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Phil Leotardo wrote:
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Celebrating it for MANY years.

Exactly how do you celebrate Juneteenth?


Golden Jet kisses your feet if you are black.

Well, he'll have to get in his car and drive like 20 miles.


You're not good with geography.

Nor do you have a clue about me personally.

Keep shooting those blanks.



You have to admit that was pretty funny though.

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If we are honest with ourselves, few of us have anywhere to go in the 2020 election.

AGAIN.
You're not wrong.

My vote in November will be much more AGAINST Trump than it will be FOR Biden.

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If we are honest with ourselves, few of us have anywhere to go in the 2020 election.

AGAIN.
You're not wrong.

My vote in November will be much more AGAINST Trump than it will be FOR Biden.


I am voting for the Libertarian lady. I don’t think Biden would be horrible (good neo liberal) but I worry about a fully Democratic Congress and of course the Supreme Court.

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GoldenJet wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Phil Leotardo wrote:
Furious Styles wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Celebrating it for MANY years.

Exactly how do you celebrate Juneteenth?


Golden Jet kisses your feet if you are black.

Well, he'll have to get in his car and drive like 20 miles.


You're not good with geography.

Nor do you have a clue about me personally.

Keep shooting those blanks.

Don't be so thin skinned. It's just a run of the mill cheap shot.
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If we are honest with ourselves, few of us have anywhere to go in the 2020 election.

AGAIN.
You're not wrong.

My vote in November will be much more AGAINST Trump than it will be FOR Biden.



I am voting for the Libertarian lady. I don’t think Biden would be horrible (good neo liberal) but I worry about a fully Democratic Congress and of course the Supreme Court.

The libertarian is not winning. Even if you think Trump is an ass, there's a much greater chance of keeping more of your hard earned money with him. If Biden wins, and dems flip the senate, hello universal income for everyone.
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The libertarian is not winning. Even if you think Trump is an ass, there's a much greater chance of keeping more of your hard earned money with him. If Biden wins, and dems flip the senate, hello universal income for everyone.


Oh no! Not that! :lol:
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The libertarian is not winning.

:shock:

This changes everything.

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The libertarian is not winning.

:shock:

This changes everything.


Yeah, I am not voting for Trump because I fear Biden and Dems. I have enough integrity to vote for the person that aligns with my beliefs. That would be the Libertarian.

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The libertarian is not winning.

:shock:

This changes everything.


Yeah, I am not voting for Trump because I fear Biden and Dems. I have enough integrity to vote for the person that aligns with my beliefs. That would be the Libertarian.

I've boycotted since 2000. I was sure I was voting for Trump in January. His leadership skills were exposed as nil. Non-existent. If I put the state of the country in one word its...demoralized. There's no hope of that changing Nov 3.
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I'm disappointed in Nardi, but I'm generally fascinated by how people make their voting decisions. I was listening to a guy on Saturday taking a he's always voted against someone and was hopeful to finally vote for a candidate until Trump's tariffs changed that for him.

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I'm disappointed in Nardi, but I'm generally fascinated by how people make their voting decisions. I was listening to a guy on Saturday taking a he's always voted against someone and was hopeful to finally vote for a candidate until Trump's tariffs changed that for him.

How can I vote for a guy for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES that I believe has dementia? This is what it's come to? A sackless bully sociopath vs an old folks' home resident? Am I fucking dreaming? Cuz this shit can't be real
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I'm disappointed in Nardi, but I'm generally fascinated by how people make their voting decisions. I was listening to a guy on Saturday taking a he's always voted against someone and was hopeful to finally vote for a candidate until Trump's tariffs changed that for him.

How can I vote for a guy for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES that I believe has dementia?

:lol:

It's seriously stunning that so many Democrats don't seem to get this.

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The libertarian is not winning.

:shock:

This changes everything.


You're an idiot. Voting for a libertarian is a vote for Biden. Same way voting Green party is a vote for Trump.
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I'm disappointed in Nardi, but I'm generally fascinated by how people make their voting decisions. I was listening to a guy on Saturday taking a he's always voted against someone and was hopeful to finally vote for a candidate until Trump's tariffs changed that for him.

How can I vote for a guy for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES that I believe has dementia? This is what it's come to? A sackless bully sociopath vs an old folks' home resident? Am I fucking dreaming? Cuz this shit can't be real


I am disappointed that you've boycotted since 2000.

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The libertarian is not winning.

:shock:

This changes everything.


You're an idiot. Voting for a libertarian is a vote for Biden. Same way voting Green party is a vote for Trump.

That's fucking stupid, like everything you post. A vote for a libertarian is a vote for a libertarian. A vote for the Green Party is a vote for the Green Party. This is all very simple stuff that even a 2nd grader is capable of understanding.

Go kill yourself.

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The libertarian is not winning.

:shock:

This changes everything.


You're an idiot. Voting for a libertarian is a vote for Biden. Same way voting Green party is a vote for Trump.

That's fucking stupid, like everything you post. A vote for a libertarian is a vote for a libertarian. A vote for the Green Party is a vote for the Green Party. This is all very simple stuff that even a 2nd grader is capable of understanding.

Go kill yourself.


He's kinda right. A vote for a candidate who has no chance of winning in a swing state probably isn't smart. You live in Illinois so voting your conscience is allowed.

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Phil Leotardo wrote:
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The libertarian is not winning.

:shock:

This changes everything.


You're an idiot. Voting for a libertarian is a vote for Biden. Same way voting Green party is a vote for Trump.

That's fucking stupid, like everything you post. A vote for a libertarian is a vote for a libertarian. A vote for the Green Party is a vote for the Green Party. This is all very simple stuff that even a 2nd grader is capable of understanding.

Go kill yourself.


He's kinda right. A vote for a candidate who has no chance of winning in a swing state probably isn't smart. You live in Illinois so voting your conscience is allowed.

He's wrong. It's one of those really fucking stupid things people try to say to sound "smart", when 10 seconds of critical thought exposes it as the bullshit it clearly is.

Voting your conscience in the only acceptable way to go about it. If you disagree, then it's impossible to take any complaint you have about Trump even the slightest bit seriously. You're openly advocating for people to vote for him.

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