easy Joe start your car in the garage and sit in it....and I'll do the same with an electric car

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I'm out.

Too much sunlight Walt.

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Or you could just breath in from the stack at the coal plant that's powering the electric car.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

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Coal plants powering electric cars wtf

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Yes, Walt, that is where the electricity to power your car comes from in MANY places.

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I'm out.

we have a tesla cheering section at work and some of these guys were excited to take some of these things on a few business trips. i refuse to use them. i'd rather drive the work prius that we have available.

in the winter these things have the range of a power wheel. it took us 8.5 hours to get from the quad cities to lincoln NE in January. (less than 6 hrs in my truck) Will it get better? undoubtedly but they have a long ways to go for me to consider a switch.

Okay. I'm sure India and China are very concerned about limiting emissions.

The entire "industry" of "climate science" is based on a desire to create "global equity" by forcing fat and wasteful Americans to alter their shitty ways so the rest of the world can catch up. I'm not even making an argument against the idea that that's a "fair" or "moral" thing to do. Maybe it is.

I'm just being honest that I'm an American who likes eating steak and driving whenever and wherever I want and I don't have any interest in giving those things up so some guy in Calcutta and I can have our lifestyles meet somewhere in the middle of where they currently are. If that makes me an asshole, it does. But I'll hazard a guess that in the case it does, most everyone here is an asshole too. And beyond that, I doubt it would even work.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm not supposed to say this because it's a secret, but we talk about limiting emissions and we make goals to power 100% of our power grid with happy thoughts but we only really do it when it makes financial sense.

Electric cars are going to make American businesses a ton of money. That's why there is the push for them. Plus, the businesses run the government anyways. The government can really only ask them nicely to do it.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Traveling any where in Nebraska seems so long

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I'm out.

Like most things demanded by government, it makes financial sense for some people. I doubt most members of this board ever have dinner with such people.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I heard China is the largest manufacturer and buyer of electric cars

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I'm out.

Your last paragraph is really offbeat and hard to comprehend. How does an electric car affect your ability to eat a steak? Why would an electric car affect your ability to drive whenever and where ever you want?

You have that steak and wash it down with a non plant based beer

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I'm out.

You seem really insecure and defensive about people living their lives differently than yours and spending their money differently than you'd like them to.

People are incorporating some veganism/vegetarianism in their diets or have the disposable income to purchase an electric car, so what?

Are you mistakenly posting in the wrong thread?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

You wrote that.

I know what I wrote. You seem to be misunderstanding either the conversation or the parameters of "climate science" or both.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No, I perfectly understand the discussion but I do not follow your odd paranoia and fear.

If you still like your gas powered car in 10 years, you'll still be able to keep it. You may have fewer options, but gas cars aren't going anywhere. Businesses are moving away from gas because it makes financial sense. Just like the shift from the horse and buggy. Gas cars beat out electric cars then. Their reign is likely coming to an end over the next 15 years.

A Tesla appears to be the way to go for anyone who doesn't want to "own" a car or drive a lot. Especially if they can workout some software kinks. Your Tesla could make you money while you dive down the Twitter rabbit holes or drink manly wine.

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GO BEARS!!!

i kinda want to go the opposite way and get a big ass boat, like the Lincoln Continental Frank Cannon drove

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I'm out.

I must've missed this home ownership memo because I won't be converting to solar any time soon unless our wonderful government (who I know has our best interest in mind), helps heavily subsidize me to do it.

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These are for a 0 - full charge and despite the Kw's, they are a slower charger because it is designed to charge overnight or during the day while you're at work.
Tesla Model S;
110v (standard 3 pin plug I believe): 33 - 44 hours.
3.6kW: ~25hours
7kW: ~15hours
22kW: ~5

Now for something like Tesla's Supercharger network, where you may not be completely dead, to an 80% charge here are the following rough times. Keep in mind, the charger slows the charge rate under 20% and over 80% to protect the battery.

50kW: ~75mins
150kW: ~30mins

Note, Model 3's, being a little newer and newer battery tech, are slightly quicker to charge across the board.

But as you can see, unless you're "topping off" (meaning using the 50kW or 150kW chargers) on a road trip, there isn't a quick charging method.

Generally by myself, I don't waste time. I get gas, piss if needed and maybe 10 minutes max. You would need a 150kW charger to even come somewhat close and STILL, 20 mins more.

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I believed Volkswagen has one coming out that charges in 3 minutes.

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There is a lot of stuff on the drawing board. Tech is changing so fast.

But this is what is out now and Tesla's are generally the leader, for now anyway.

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You aren't wrong but those numbers are for a road trip. How many days a year are you driving more than 250 miles in one day? People will likely have a much cheaper electric car for days they go under 250 miles and then hold on to their gas car while the tech continues to improve to get to either the massive range like 1,000 miles or a 10 min charge time for 200 miles.

It's also not like people are taking Honda Civics on massive family road trips now anyways.

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Not disagreeing. Darkside just asked for charging times so I posted them from what I recall our Tesla owners writing up. The 20 - 80% rapid charging would be on a road trip. The higher up ones are regular rate chargers like over night or while at work.

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I know nothing about electric cars. Say I go buy a Tesla. How do I recharge it? Do I have something at my house installed that I can plug it into? How much does that cost? Or do I just drive to target and plug my car in?Do they charge for that?