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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:25 pm 
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You know how the FBI would do it? They've released stuff to the media before that they want to get out. And they use one of their guys that they know is trusted by the media. Trusted cuz he's been correct in past leaks. Hell, maybe the head of the FBI doesn't even tell their own man that it's a lie. That way he's more convincing when speaking to the TV news reporters. Need to know basis for the lessor guys in the FBI anyway.

That's how shit works. No problem with it, of course. FBI might think he's capable of another bombing. If they think they can smoke him out this way and save lives, that's what you do.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:27 pm 
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NBC News announcement:

Arrest made in ricin mailings, federal officials say; suspect IDed as Kenneth Curtis of Tupelo, Miss.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:28 pm 
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It's plausible.

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It also looks like the FBI likes NBC if they got this right before anybody else. They give them the correct shit. Don't give them the bullshit. They use FOX and CNN as their bitches.


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It also looks like the FBI likes NBC if they got this right before anybody else. They give them the correct shit. Don't give them the bullshit. They use FOX and CNN as their bitches.


Maybe they appreciate them being responsible earlier and not joining in the frenzy of misinformation.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Beardown wrote:
It also looks like the FBI likes NBC if they got this right before anybody else. They give them the correct shit. Don't give them the bullshit. They use FOX and CNN as their bitches.


Maybe they appreciate them being responsible earlier and not joining in the frenzy of misinformation.


Is it possible that multiple sources purposely misled them? I would guess NBC has a better relationship with the WH and could reach out to some high ranking official to get the "real" story.

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Nas wrote:
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It also looks like the FBI likes NBC if they got this right before anybody else. They give them the correct shit. Don't give them the bullshit. They use FOX and CNN as their bitches.


Maybe they appreciate them being responsible earlier and not joining in the frenzy of misinformation.


Is it possible that multiple sources purposely misled them? I would guess NBC has a better relationship with the WH and could reach out to some high ranking official to get the "real" story.


I am guessing that one agency reported something and the rest jumped in because they didn't want to be seen as not breaking the story.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:56 pm 
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Here he is everybody. Several websites are running this picture and discussing it. None of them are reputable. Doesn't mean they're wrong. CNN is suppose to be reputable and they were wrong all day.

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Nas wrote:
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Beardown wrote:
It also looks like the FBI likes NBC if they got this right before anybody else. They give them the correct shit. Don't give them the bullshit. They use FOX and CNN as their bitches.


Maybe they appreciate them being responsible earlier and not joining in the frenzy of misinformation.


Is it possible that multiple sources purposely misled them? I would guess NBC has a better relationship with the WH and could reach out to some high ranking official to get the "real" story.


That's because NBC is state-run media. I heard that from a poster here.

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Speculation and pictures of a 2nd suspect. They match the bags they carry with the exploded bags at the crime scene.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/boston-bombing-suspect-photo/


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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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It also looks like the FBI likes NBC if they got this right before anybody else. They give them the correct shit. Don't give them the bullshit. They use FOX and CNN as their bitches.


Maybe they appreciate them being responsible earlier and not joining in the frenzy of misinformation.


Is it possible that multiple sources purposely misled them? I would guess NBC has a better relationship with the WH and could reach out to some high ranking official to get the "real" story.


I am guessing that one agency reported something and the rest jumped in because they didn't want to be seen as not breaking the story.


You're probably right but I am just guessing some people at those networks had to call someone they knew and ask. I know we say journalism is dead but some of those people do take their jobs seriously.

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Speculation and pictures of a 2nd suspect. They match the bags they carry with the exploded bags at the crime scene.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/boston-bombing-suspect-photo/


This guy was also labeled as a "patsy" on another website.


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Now CNN is showing the picture of a bag dropped at the first bombing site. It was broken by a local Boston station that had the pic. FBI is looking for two suspects. Google it. It's all over the web now. No network will show pics of these guys.


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FBI can't be pleased. Internet has it now. If they're still on the run, these guys are aware of it. I'd imagine they're on google as well.

And all of the networks are aware that it's all over the net. Which one will run the pictures? Somebody on twitter said that FOX reported having pictures of potential suspects but they will not show it. That was basically their hint for everybody to look for it on the internet. CBS reported earilier that he was in a white cap, black jacket.

This thing is over.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
Beardown wrote:
Speculation and pictures of a 2nd suspect. They match the bags they carry with the exploded bags at the crime scene.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/boston-bombing-suspect-photo/


This guy was also labeled as a "patsy" on another website.


Those 2 guys are likely govt agents looking for/trying to stop the bomber:

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=78491&start=800#p1703211

There's a clear pic out there of those 2 standing in the middle of the street, next to a police van, surveying the scene post-blast:

http://i.imgur.com/3bdmmZh.jpg

but that's the same guys/pic from a further angle, post-blast. Assuming they were working the crowd, trying to track down their lost sheep.


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That's because NBC is state-run media. I heard that from a poster here.


Their 24-hour handjob of a cable news channel really paid off!

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Everything is okay because the internet is on the case!

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Beardown wrote:
Here he is everybody. Several websites are running this picture and discussing it. None of them are reputable. Doesn't mean they're wrong. CNN is suppose to be reputable and they were wrong all day.

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These and other pictures have been all over the interwebs since last night.

There's a thread dedicated to them in the shoutout section.

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Ok. But it was only today that CBS reported that the suspect was wearing a white hat and black jacket. So it is given more credibility today.


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Beardown wrote:
Ok. But it was only today that CBS reported that the suspect was wearing a white hat and black jacket. So it is given more credibility today.


I was just letting you know in case you wanted to check it out.

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These and other pictures have been all over the interwebs since last night.


My guys over at abovetopsecret.com were all over this last night. Come join the revolution, Peeps.


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That's because NBC is state-run media. I heard that from a poster here.


Their 24-hour handjob of a cable news channel really paid off!


Do you agree with said poster that MSNBC is state run media?

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Wait. In both picures there is a guy in blue with him. Darker skin. Perhaps a Muslim. Maybe both reports are true. One of darker skin. One white.

In the first picture they both have bags. In the 2nd picture they both don't have bags. How come the guy in the white hat was the only one focused on in these stories.


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Piers Morgan just made mention of "the circulation of certain pics on the web". So he at least made mention of it. First I've heard of anybody doing so.


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The strap is over the guy in blue's right shoulder. Maybe the guy in black is holding the bag in front of him?


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Chus wrote:
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That's because NBC is state-run media. I heard that from a poster here.


Their 24-hour handjob of a cable news channel really paid off!


Do you agree with said poster that MSNBC is state run media?


No, just a fan club that gets promotional singles in the mail before the record store does.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Chus wrote:
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That's because NBC is state-run media. I heard that from a poster here.


Their 24-hour handjob of a cable news channel really paid off!


Do you agree with said poster that MSNBC is state run media?


No, just a fan club that gets promotional singles in the mail before the record store does.


They are partisan hacks, no doubt about it. That channel never appears on my television. There is a huge difference between saying they are not objective at all, and they are state run media, like it's Iran or North Korea.

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Let's assume these guys are innocent. Don't you think a friend or family member would tell them they're all over the web as the suspects. Or they might even stumble upon it.

If that happened to you, wouldn't you immediately go to the media to say "Hey, it ain't me." Or at least try to put it out on social media where the word would get out.


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Here's FOX's story. Said one guy has a backpack and the other has a bag of some sort.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/17/fbi-boston-police-say-range-suspects-motives-remains-wide-open/


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Maybe this is the guy that the news outlets were referring to. Their sources may have had the wrong arrest in mind. Sounds like a left wing guy that was crazy about an issue.



Federal agents on Wednesday arrested a suspect in the mailing of letters to President Barack Obama and a U.S. senator that initially tested positive for the poison ricin.

The suspect was identified as Paul Kevin Curtis of Tupelo, Miss., federal officials told NBC News. They said he may appear in court as early as Wednesday night.

Both letters carried an identical closing statement, according to an FBI bulletin obtained by NBC News on Wednesday.

According to the FBI bulletin, both letters, postmarked April 8, 2013 out of Memphis, Tenn., included an identical phrase, "to see a wrong and not expose it, is to become a silent partner to its continuance."

In addition, both letters are signed: "I am KC and I approve this message."

The letter to Obama was intercepted at an off-site White House mail facility and was being tested further, the FBI said. A federal law enforcement official said that the letter was “very similar” to one addressed to Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss. Another letter was addressed to a Mississippi justice official.

Curtis was arrested at his home in Corinth, Miss., about 5:15 CT, after an investigation by federal, state and local agencies.

Two federal officials said late Wednesday that an initial laboratory test on the material in the letters was inconclusive. The test shows some level of ricin, they said, but the potency is uncertain. They cannot tell whether the material is actually harmful or not. So more tests have been ordered.

The sender of the letters, one official said, "may have stumbled onto something," but it's unknown if he actually made full-blown ricin toxin.

Ricin is made from castor beans and can kill within 36 hours. There is no antidote. Some threatening letters simply contain ground castor beans, resulting in a positive field test for ricin without the concentrated poison. Results from full laboratory tests are expected in the next 24 to 48 hours.

Filters at a second government mail screening facility also tested positive for ricin in preliminary screening Wednesday.

An FBI official told NBC News that the agency did not initially believe the letters were related to the attack on the Boston Marathon on Monday.

Authorities also for a time cleared the atrium of a Senate office building Wednesday, removing suspicious envelopes and a package, before reopening the offices. Capitol police were also investigating a suspicious package at the office of Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala. Shelby’s staff had not been evacuated.

The Wicker letter had no return address. The FBI confirmed the preliminary positive test on it Tuesday. That letter was intercepted at a postal facility in Maryland that screens mail sent to Congress, and never reached Wicker’s office.

Other senators were made aware of the Wicker letter during a briefing Tuesday evening on the bombing in Boston. Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., said that the person who sent Wicker the letter writes often to elected officials.

People can be exposed to ricin by touching a ricin-laced letter or by inhaling particles that enter the air when the envelope is opened. Touching ricin can cause a rash but is not usually fatal. Inhaling it can cause trouble breathing, fever and other symptoms, and can be fatal.

At a hearing Wednesday on the Postal Service’s finances, Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe said that while there have been ricin scares in the past, the recent discoveries were unprecedented.

“There's never been any actually proved that have gone through the system,” Donahoe said. “But we've got a process that we make sure that our employees know -- We can actually track the mail back through the system to double check from an employee health standpoint."

Field tests are conducted anytime suspicious powder is found in a mail facility, and the FBI cautioned that field tests and other preliminary tests can produce inconsistent results. When tests show the possibility of a biological agent, the material is sent to a laboratory for full analysis.

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