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Is there any chance JLN & LTG could kill each other?

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Cannon is wrong about lumping in jews in his evolutionary theory. They didn't move to poor climate until 2000 years ago. What would end up being the white race(cuz they lost their African melanin in the snow) moved there probably 80,000 years ago. So there was just not enough evolutionary time to adapt as a white savage did.

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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?


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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

No it can't. That's why all of the handwringing by JLN is baseless.

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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

No it can't. That's why all the handwringing by JLN is baseless.


The Rothschilds do not control nor own "all the banks". The intention of the exaggeration of the size and breadth of the Rothschild banking empire was obviously meant to depict the family as evil/greedy/power-hungry Jews, which is the Triple Crown as far as horrendous antisemitic tropes goes.


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 Post subject: Re: Cancellation updates
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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

No it can't. That's why all the handwringing by JLN is baseless.


The Rothschilds do not control nor own "all the banks". The intention of the exaggeration of the size and breadth of the Rothschild banking empire was obviously meant to depict the family as evil/greedy/power-hungry Jews, which is the Triple Crown as far as horrendous antisemitic tropes goes.


Its embarrassing how uneducated you are on this particular subject. The first person to reference that the Rothschilds are Jewish was you. Not me. Just as you did with Horowitz. Just as you did with Shakes and in other instances.

Back to your lack of education for a second. Something need ONLY to be MOSTLY true in order for it not to be considered stereotypical. The Rothschilds are considered to be pioneers and titans of the modern banking industry. With this being the case it isn't much a stretch to state that they "own all of the banks". Its an exaggeration. That's it. You are ignorant of their history and hence all you see is "Jew". Those are your biases at work. It's not Stephen Jackson's fault that you are ignorant of their historical influence upon the banking sector. He said nothing about the Rothschilds being greedy jews. You did. Again your biases at and ignorance at work.

Niall Ferguson wrote a book in which he proclaimed the Rothschild's to be the "WORLDS BANKERS" is he too an Anti-Semite for having done so?

Read this and then beat it before I continue to eviscerate you about this. Its obvious you don't have a fucking clue as to what you are talking about.
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The stereotype that Jews gravitate toward, and often do well in, finance is so innocent that, ironically, bringing it up is suspicious. What does it have to do with anything?

Rush Limbaugh brought it up the other day. He said on his radio show that President Obama may be appealing to anti-Semitism with his recent populist criticism of banks and bankers. "There are a lot of people," Limbaugh said, "when you say banker, people think Jewish." He didn't mention Goldman Sachs. Abe Foxman, longtime head of the B'nai Brith Anti-Defamation League, declared that Limbaugh's remark was "offensive and inappropriate" and "borderline anti-Semitic." Limbaugh and his defenders protest that Limbaugh clearly was referring to other people, "people who have--what's the best way to say--a little prejudice about them," and not endorsing such views himself. And the transcript bears him out.

By Foxman's standard, even to mention that many bankers are Jewish is anti-Semitic (even though it's true), and attributing this view to others (while professing to be worried about it) is no excuse This may be over-the top. We live in a culture of umbrage, in which everybody seems to be taking offense at something somebody else says. Foxman is one of the nation's foremost umbragists.

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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

Black people are really good at basketball.

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The only thing you've done here LTG is tell on yourself. If you'll remember I once defended what I thought was honest criticism from you unfairly labeled as antisemitism. But now the veil has been lifted: You are a raging anti-Semite that will go to any lengths to excuse others for their horrendous words about Jews, up to and including saying that undeniably hurtful tropes about Jews in banking aren't actually antisemitic because they are, after a fashion, "positive" and now given what you linked, "innocent".


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There is always a smoking gun. Here he demonstrates just how much of a sympathetic ear that he has when it comes to the Alt Right. Again is only ever empathetic when it comes to perceived slights of white men. As most bigots are.

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Taylor Lorenz does social media work for The Hill. Which way does that outlet lean, politically, and would they be OK with an employee on the scene reporting perhaps exculpatory/mitigating facts to something that so perfectly demonizes the Alt Right?


Sound like a guy sympathetic to the plight of Jewish people to you?


The Hill is pretty close to the middle, leaning right. They employ Krystal Ball, who has better thoughts than most shitty liberals, even if she's a little too into Tulsi Gabbard.

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The Hill is pretty close to the middle, leaning right. They employ Krystal Ball, who has better thoughts than most shitty liberals, even if she's a little too into Tulsi Gabbard.

Can't say I'd agree or disagree The Hill leans right, but I will agree that they're the closest thing we have to the middle.

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 Post subject: Re: Cancellation updates
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The only thing you've done here LTG is tell on yourself. If you'll remember I once defended what I thought was honest criticism from you unfairly labeled as antisemitism. But now the veil has been lifted: You are a raging anti-Semite that will go to any lengths to excuse others for their horrendous words about Jews, up to and including saying that undeniably hurtful tropes about Jews in banking aren't actually antisemitic because they are, after a fashion, "positive" and now given what you linked, "innocent".


You can't refute any of the things that I have said. You are wasting my time with all of the personal attacks. You really are ignorant as shit and whenever you become enlightened holler at me as you are simply out of your depth on this.

You have added nothing of substance you lied on Stephen Jaxkson and all you are doing is repeating yourself. What he said about the Rothschilds wasn't Anti Semitic. Maybe some other yes but not that.

When you are educated enough to argue points and not me then holler. Otherwise beat it.

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Douchebag wrote:
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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

Black people are really good at basketball.


Thanks Douche. If you didn't know any better all you'd ever think was that we were predisposed to commit crime.

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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

Black people are really good at basketball.


Thanks Douche. If you didn't know any better all you'd ever think was that we were predisposed to commit crime.

I wish I was predisposed to own all the banks.

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The Hill is pretty close to the middle, leaning right. They employ Krystal Ball, who has better thoughts than most shitty liberals, even if she's a little too into Tulsi Gabbard.

Can't say I'd agree or disagree The Hill leans right, but I will agree that they're the closest thing we have to the middle.

Print leans right, video leans left, it more or less averages out.

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Nardi wrote:
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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

Black people are really good at basketball.


Thanks Douche. If you didn't know any better all you'd ever think was that we were predisposed to commit crime.

I wish I was predisposed to own all the banks.


Yep.

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Nardi wrote:
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if something is a true statement, it can't be a stereotype ?

Black people are really good at basketball.


Thanks Douche. If you didn't know any better all you'd ever think was that we were predisposed to commit crime.

I wish I was predisposed to own all the banks.


Yep.

Instead I'm predisposed to savagery because of climate. Sorry about that. One good thing was lions weren't chasing my ass(basketball), just wolves, and that was easy, just give 'em some mastodon steak and they became my best friend. I am also sorry for turning wolves into poodles and chihuahas. The poodle thing was supposed to be for the ladies but it never quite caught on with fine ones.

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White Hot Harlots knocks it out of the park once again: https://whitehotharlots.tumblr.com/post ... el-culture

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The existence of cancel culture has gone through more cycles of confirmation and denial than that of the yeti. First it existed and it was great, then it did not exist, then it did kinda exist but you should call it “consequence culture” instead, and then it existed but actually it was when someone unjustly robbed internet weirdos of their ability to cancel others (is any man truly free from censorship, if he himself is not allowed to censor?).

Most recently it’s become impossible to deny the existence of something that could reasonably be called cancel culture–especially when those previously inclined toward denial must now defend their god-given right ruin the lives of people who are mean to them on the internet. So the tack has shifted. Instead of saying it doesn’t exist, they complain that it’s not been properly demarcated, that the dozens of instances of people having their lives destroyed for reasons no sane person would support are in fact just strawmen, that really all we’re seeing right now is the powerless rising up and somehow exercising power (which I guess they have in spite of being powerless?) in order to punish some of society’s biggest monsters.

So let’s try and define this, shall we?

Cancel culture is an approach to social justice that eschews attempts toward systemic reform and focuses instead on selectively punishing individuals for semantic transgressions, many of which are trivial or even non-existent. Cancelation involves distributing copies of a person’s statement(s) (screenshots, audio, video, transcripts), posting them widely, and demanding that people in positions of authority over that person punish that person. There is no adequate response to cancelation: all statements and clarification are considered proof of guilt. There is no amount of context or evidence that a canceled person can summon that will appease the cancelers. The goal of cancelation is to remove a person from society for the rest of their lives: leaving them unemployable, unpublishable, uneducateable, and unloved.

Cancel culture can be understood as the enforcement mechanism of privilege theory. Privilege theory is a fundamentally conservative understanding of social relations based on four key beliefs: 1) Human life has no inherent value, 2) Society contains only a finite amount of decency, which should not be allocated to the undeserving, 3) All human interaction is transactional, and 4) People’s identity markers are fully deterministic of their abilities, beliefs, and experiences. Cancel culture is, in short, what “resistance” looks like when the resistors have completely internalized the worldview of those they claim to oppose.

Privilege theory has become popular within mainstream liberalism as the Democratic party and other liberal institutions have become more and more economically conservative and more openly dedicated to imperialism abroad and violent repression at home. Since the Democrats share the same general goals as the Republican, they’ve needed to more forcefully project semantic and aesthetic differences from the avowedly conservative party. The obtuseness and cruelty of privilege theory only become palatable after particular forms of training and indoctrination, which creates a strong sense of in-group identification among those who embrace privilege theory (and a concurrent hatred of those in the out-group); this allows liberals to believe themselves to be diametrically opposed to conservatives, even as the politicians they support and brands they consume share 98% of the goals and beliefs of their conservative counterparts.

A bonus to privilege theory, from the standpoint of a party that embraces austerity, is that it casts what was recently understood as human decency instead as privilege, something unearned and undeserved that can and should be taken away at will. Without this belief privilege theory has no political utility. And without the ability to enforce this belief, privilege theory becomes simply a creepy means of understanding the world that few decent people would even pretend to believe in.

Enter cancel culture: a means of policing speech and beliefs that is by design both arbitrary and petty and by nature guaranteed to disproportionately harm those whose beliefs threaten the status quo. The (relatively) innocent people who find themselves unemployable aren’t casualties of a just social upheaval. The fact that people are afraid to step out of line even slightly or express any remotely unpopular opinion is the entire point of cancel culture. It’s the only reason this shit has thrived beyond the most neurotic corners of academe and social media–people are simply not allowed to point out how batshit, hateful, and regressive it is.

To suffer cancellation, a person need not do or say something that most people would recognize as offensive or hurtful. Cancel culture allows accusations to flow from free association: a person who is afraid of having their home burned during a riot can be accused of not respecting the humanity of black people; a person who posts data questioning the political efficacy of riots can be accused of “anti-blackness;” someone who does not put their pronouns in their social media bio can be accused of denying the existence of trans people, etc, etc.

There have been some instances where people have been cancelled for genuinely offensive and/or hateful actions. Most often, however, truly odious people are immune–the presidential election, after all, has come down to a pair of senile racists who have been plausibly accused of rape. In reality, consequential cancellations arrive after disagreements, or because the canceler simply does not like the cancelee. One can find themselves canceled for expressing a heterodox opinion about a book or movie that has been deemed socially important, speaking about social justice issues either too often or too infrequently, evincing any criticism or skepticism toward any belief held by a person who can make a plausible claim to identity-based victimhood, or, most damningly, pointing out that this particular approach to social justice has been an abject failure. And that’s the point. The point is to embrace conservatism. The point is to spread hatred and misery.

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I'm surprised Leonardo DiCaprio hasn't been cancelled yet. Doesn't he have a new barely legal girlfriend every 6 months? He's one to watch!


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The popular rejoinder from the Left on this subject is that we all have free speech, but that doesn't shield us from criticism. That's fine and I would agree if only I never again had to hear that "speech is violence" or about any fucking safe spaces, people's feelings, etc. Is Bari Weiss not also entitled to a "safe" work space?

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Nick Cannon fired by Viacom.

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The first paragraph of Nick Cannon's new apology:

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Truth and Reconciliation.

I am deeply saddened in a moment so close to reconciliation that the powers that be, misused an important moment for us to all grow closer together and learn more about one another. Instead the moment was stolen and highjacked to make an example of an outspoken black man. I will not be bullied, silenced, or continuously oppressed by any organization, group, or corporation. I am disappointed that Viacom does not understand or respect the power of the black community.


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I hope he makes a better apology later on or it may change my opinion.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The first paragraph of Nick Cannon's new apology:

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Truth and Reconciliation.

I am deeply saddened in a moment so close to reconciliation that the powers that be, misused an important moment for us to all grow closer together and learn more about one another. Instead the moment was stolen and highjacked to make an example of an outspoken black man. I will not be bullied, silenced, or continuously oppressed by any organization, group, or corporation. I am disappointed that Viacom does not understand or respect the power of the black community.


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The first paragraph of Nick Cannon's new apology:

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Truth and Reconciliation.

I am deeply saddened in a moment so close to reconciliation that the powers that be, misused an important moment for us to all grow closer together and learn more about one another. Instead the moment was stolen and highjacked to make an example of an outspoken black man. I will not be bullied, silenced, or continuously oppressed by any organization, group, or corporation. I am disappointed that Viacom does not understand or respect the power of the black community.


sounds sincere to me

Yup. When I apologize, the most important point I like to hit on is that I won't be silenced.

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I’ve never been a fan of Nick Cannon, but this is how you stifle a well intentioned movement of equality.

"Our melanin is so power[ful] and it connects us in a way that the reason why [White people] fear us is because of the lack that they have of it," he explains. "When you have a person that has the lack of pigment, the lack of melanin, they know that they will be annihilated. So, therefore, however they got the power, they have the lack of compassion. Melanin comes with compassion, melanin comes with soul."

Nick then expounds on his point. "The people that don't have [melanin] are a little less...," Nick continues, noting that he is trying to be cognizant of his wording. "They may not have the compassion when they were sent to the mountains of Caucasus when they didn't have the power of the Sun. The Sun then started to deteriorate them so then, they're acting out of fear, they're acting out of low self-esteem, they're acting out of a deficiency. So, therefore, the only way that they can act is evil. They have to rob, steal, rape, kill in order to survive. So then, these people that didn't have what we have—and when I say we, I speak of the melanated people—they had to be savages."

Cannon adds additional context, saying that the environments White and Jewish people originated from also played a role in their behavior. "They had to be barbaric because they're in these Nordic mountains," Nick tells. "They're in these rough torrential environments. So, they're acting as animals. So, they're the ones that are actually closer to animals. They're the ones that are actually the true savages."

Nick concludes his point, saying, "I say all that to say, the context in when we speak of, whether it's Jewish people, White people, Europeans, the illuminati, they were doing that as survival tactics to stay on the planet. We never had to do that."



Read More: Nick Cannon Calls Jewish and White People "True Savages" - XXL | https://www.xxlmag.com/nick-cannon-call ... m=referral

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