That's why I didn't call it assault earlier in the thread.

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But you literally just grouped them together in your last post. That's what I was referring to when I said this isn't a big deal. CK is a perv and scumbag, he's not a rapist or sexual predator. Let's keep it accurate.

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I don't know about predator... this is a tricky situation. It wasn't a one off deal. There was a history here. I think it is important to group this together. He used his position and influence to take advantage of women. He didn't assault them but it was pretty fucked up.

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Considering the way these stories seem to go after the initial revelations I don’t think I’d put my money on that last bit. For accuracy, He’s not yet been accused of being...

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Agree to disagree I guess. There are sexual assaults, rape, murder, etc daily. I'm not gonna get a hysterical about a guy who told women he was gonna masturbate in front of them and then did. HE. TOLD. THEM. WHAT. HE. WAS. GOING. TO. DO.

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Im not gonna accuse a guy of rape who hasn't been accused of rape yet and when there is no evidence indicating he is a rapist. I'll leave that to you.

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fuck you for making me laugh.

I get it. This isn't as egregious as Sheen fucking a boy in the ass but it's a slippery slope. I'll let someone else take the low hanging fruit there.

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People died for his right to do this.

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maybe. tho the CK stories have been around for years and have always been the same 'invite girl up to room and then masturbate in front of her' story, whether Tig Notaro's version or Roseanne Barr's.

Jesus. He did this in front of Roseanne? Hank was right.

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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Complete nudity for masturbating?

Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

It's a probably a ginger thing

Everything happens for a reason.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I just read a report that he long ago apologized privately to the individuals he did this in front of...the report said he should have made a public apology. WTF?! He acted like a weirdo, he apologized. He got married, had kids and hasn't jacked off in front other women since. This just seems vindictive.

I am also in the camp that doesn't find him funny at all.

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I forgot how many lawyers we have on this board.

It's the story book ending of Boy meets Girl...

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Slightly off topic here, but I had a teacher in high school named Mister Bator.

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I met a minister named Pastor Gass.

From the top to the bottom in one fucking week.


Damn

Oh well

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

His career is probably over which is a shame because I do think he is an excellent comedian and that this isn't a big deal. So he jacked off in front of you? Yea, it's creepy and wrong but that's something you can't get over? What's the point of coming out with this several years later if he already privately apologised to you? C'mon.

I see what you're saying. It's kind of funny though, since he has a whole famous bit about how men are the worst thing that ever happened to women.

I guess he would know

Do it. Do it now.

Louis CK's wife/baby-momma dumped him like a decade ago. the gawker piece from a few years ago seemed to indicate that the fap-for-a-captive-audience behavior was on-going and of the moment, not something solely in his past. Was Louis CK even that famous in 2002/pre-marriage? Other than being Chris Rock's joke-bitch. I still think people might've assumed at first dude was doing a bit and thus they'd wanna hang around to catch the punch line.

I answered it earlier in the thread. I guess I'm the only person in history to watch a show through every season despite waning interest.

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he's the Nate Parker of this year. "I Love You, Daddy" is already a pariah...supposed to be released next week; probably without this story, it gets major Oscar buzz.

of course, he should just come out and apologize and do the ben affleck "I'm going to church now to cleanse myself"...

...but maybe...

Refreshingly honest

I want to address the stories told to the New York Times by five women named Abby, Rebecca, Dana, Julia who felt able to name themselves and one who did not.

These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.

I have been remorseful of my actions. And I've tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I'm aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position.

I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.

There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.

I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.

The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I'd be remiss to exclude the hurt that I've brought on people who I work with and have worked with who's professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of Better Things, Baskets, The Cops, One Mississippi, and I Love You Daddy. I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I've brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much The Orchard who took a chance on my movie and every other entity that has bet on me through the years.

I've brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother.

I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen.

Thank you for reading.

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Wow. Good read.

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