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Human decency? Or is that not an American institution?

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The religious right make excuses for a guy who never goes to church and conducts himself in ways that they usually find to be repulsive. They attack Mueller and would buy tickets to see him hanged even though he lives his life in ways they would find acceptable.

MANY are outraged by the pussyhat and the NOT MY PRESIDENT crowd because they believe they're attempting to undermine a fairly elected president. Those same people sit silent as the president and others continue to successfully undermine nearly every American institution and reduce the public trust in these pillars of our country to all time lows for nothing more than political reasons.

None of it matters because our 401k's are doing great.


What American institutions has the president undermined successfully?


He fired James Comey for the purpose of thwarting an Investigation. Sounds like undermining in my book.


He fired James Comey because he made a deal with Hillary to do so if she let him grab her pussy.
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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The religious right make excuses for a guy who never goes to church and conducts himself in ways that they usually find to be repulsive. They attack Mueller and would buy tickets to see him hanged even though he lives his life in ways they would find acceptable.

MANY are outraged by the pussyhat and the NOT MY PRESIDENT crowd because they believe they're attempting to undermine a fairly elected president. Those same people sit silent as the president and others continue to successfully undermine nearly every American institution and reduce the public trust in these pillars of our country to all time lows for nothing more than political reasons.

None of it matters because our 401k's are doing great.


What American institutions has the president undermined successfully?


He fired James Comey for the purpose of thwarting an Investigation. Sounds like undermining in my book.


Comey's position at the time served at the pleasure of Trump's position, though. Trump exercised authority properly. By what mechanism does Trump lose his authority over an executive agency because of that agency's counterintelligence investigations (which is what it was at the time)?

You're also going to have to substantiate that claim of intent, too, and a memo Comey personally leaked isn't going to cut it.
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The religious right make excuses for a guy who never goes to church and conducts himself in ways that they usually find to be repulsive. They attack Mueller and would buy tickets to see him hanged even though he lives his life in ways they would find acceptable.

MANY are outraged by the pussyhat and the NOT MY PRESIDENT crowd because they believe they're attempting to undermine a fairly elected president. Those same people sit silent as the president and others continue to successfully undermine nearly every American institution and reduce the public trust in these pillars of our country to all time lows for nothing more than political reasons.

None of it matters because our 401k's are doing great.


What American institutions has the president undermined successfully?

From the few articles I've read the State Department has disintegrated.

Not sure if you'd call this an "institution" but no matter the politics of the person who is president they acted like an adult. Seems important to me.
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:lol: I've been to American consulates and embassies in multiple countries. I can tell you the state department is not disintegrating.
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What's the difference between a consulate and an embassy?
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What's the difference between a consulate and an embassy?

A consulate is similar to, but not the same as, a diplomatic office, but with focus on dealing with individual persons and businesses, as defined by the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. A consulate or consulate general is generally a representative of the embassy in locales outside of the capital city.

An embassy is a permanent diplomatic mission (read: a delegation of diplomats) led by an ambassador. The term is often also used for the physical building they occupy, but that's more correctly termed a chancery. A consulate is a government delegation led by a consul.

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:lol: I've been to American consulates and embassies in multiple countries. I can tell you the state department is not disintegrating.

I'll stick to not using a frustrated red pill Uber thief who ran away to France as a source on this.
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Don Tiny wrote:
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What's the difference between a consulate and an embassy?

A consulate is similar to, but not the same as, a diplomatic office, but with focus on dealing with individual persons and businesses, as defined by the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. A consulate or consulate general is generally a representative of the embassy in locales outside of the capital city.

An embassy is a permanent diplomatic mission (read: a delegation of diplomats) led by an ambassador. The term is often also used for the physical building they occupy, but that's more correctly termed a chancery. A consulate is a government delegation led by a consul.


For example. The Brazilian embassy is in Washington DC. There is a Brazilian consulate in most major US cities.

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The texts have been found.

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Heck Obama even illegally broke into news reporters' e-mails to try to find leaks.

If you're talking about the press they are essentially Democrat operatives and hacks that do not report fairly.

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The texts have been found.

Praise the Lord! Now we can get to the bottom of this "Secret Society" business at the FBI!
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This was the real FBI conspiracy that somehow never gained traction.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ru ... 0b02c93d6b

Erik Prince also bragged about this on Breitbart radio, days before the investigation into Hillary's emails was reopened.

This torpedoes the narrative that the FBI is out to get Trump.

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:lol: I've been to American consulates and embassies in multiple countries. I can tell you the state department is not disintegrating.

I'll stick to not using a frustrated red pill Uber thief who ran away to France as a source on this.

Prude.

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Horowitz, whose office is conducting its own review into the FBI's handling of the Clinton matter, discovered the texts over the summer and informed Mueller. Strzok was then reassigned. Page, meanwhile, left the team in July after her 45-day detail ended.

While Republicans have accused the two of bias against Trump, some of the texts suggest he was just one of many people targeted in their routine political banter.

At times, for instance, they were also critical of Clinton.

In addition, another Strzok text also appears to contradict the notion that the FBI is out to get Trump, after he told Page he was hesitant to join Mueller's team because of his "gut sense and concern there's no big there there."


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No source included. Not buying it if it didn't come from that stellar site RealClearPolitics.
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Here's your biased recap:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... cooper.cnn

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Here's your biased recap:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... cooper.cnn



I get the feeling you're using "biased" sarcastically here. But if there is no bias, why isn't CNN concerned about the original conspiracy theory that says Trump colluded with Russians or "hacked" the election sans any credible evidence?

In any case, the text messages suggest that at a minimum Hillary Clinton was treated with kid gloves. Can you imagine if texts between two agents on Mueller's team were discovered that said they didn't want to come loaded for bear against Trump because it looked like he was going to win the election? CNN would be pounding that story 24/7.

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Anderson Cooper nails it. Of course it was pretty much just sitting up on a tee for him.

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Anderson Cooper nails it. Of course it was pretty much just sitting up on a tee for him.


I don't see it that way. He comes off like a guy who has made up his mind and is excited when anything arises that supports his established and rigid viewpoint.

He's just the opposite of that Johnson goof who couldn't wait to seize upon a stupid text about a "secret society" because he wanted so bad for it to support what he already believes.

There's plenty of that on both sides.

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Killer V wrote:
Here's your biased recap:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... cooper.cnn



I get the feeling you're using "biased" sarcastically here. But if there is no bias, why isn't CNN concerned about the original conspiracy theory that says Trump colluded with Russians or "hacked" the election sans any credible evidence?

In any case, the text messages suggest that at a minimum Hillary Clinton was treated with kid gloves. Can you imagine if texts between two agents on Mueller's team were discovered that said they didn't want to come loaded for bear against Trump because it looked like he was going to win the election? CNN would be pounding that story 24/7.


Are you fucking serious? Wait, of course you are.

There is evidence everywhere that Trump and/or his underlings got suckered into high level meetings with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.

There's actually evidence that the FBI was leaking info to the Trump campaign against Hillary.

These incidents were actually admitted to by the principals involved.

The Russians were pushing fake news and hate news stories all over the web and social media to undermine HRC. This certainly helped lead to Democratic voter lethargy and lower turnouts on election day.

"Sans credible evidence"?

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GoldenJet wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Killer V wrote:
Here's your biased recap:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... cooper.cnn



I get the feeling you're using "biased" sarcastically here. But if there is no bias, why isn't CNN concerned about the original conspiracy theory that says Trump colluded with Russians or "hacked" the election sans any credible evidence?

In any case, the text messages suggest that at a minimum Hillary Clinton was treated with kid gloves. Can you imagine if texts between two agents on Mueller's team were discovered that said they didn't want to come loaded for bear against Trump because it looked like he was going to win the election? CNN would be pounding that story 24/7.


Are you fucking serious? Wait, of course you are.

There is evidence everywhere that Trump and/or his underlings got suckered into high level meetings with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.

There's actually evidence that the FBI was leaking info to the Trump campaign against Hillary.

These incidents were actually admitted to by the principals involved.

The Russians were pushing fake news and hate news stories all over the web and social media to undermine HRC. This certainly helped lead to Democratic voter lethargy and lower turnouts on election day.

"San credible evidence"?


There is no such evidence at all. Hillary actually PAID Russians for a dossier on Trump. Are you kidding me? You don't care about "Russian interference". You just hate Trump. That's fine. But you should be able to admit as much.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Killer V wrote:
Here's your biased recap:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... cooper.cnn



I get the feeling you're using "biased" sarcastically here. But if there is no bias, why isn't CNN concerned about the original conspiracy theory that says Trump colluded with Russians or "hacked" the election sans any credible evidence?

In any case, the text messages suggest that at a minimum Hillary Clinton was treated with kid gloves. Can you imagine if texts between two agents on Mueller's team were discovered that said they didn't want to come loaded for bear against Trump because it looked like he was going to win the election? CNN would be pounding that story 24/7.


Are you fucking serious? Wait, of course you are.

There is evidence everywhere that Trump and/or his underlings got suckered into high level meetings with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.

There's actually evidence that the FBI was leaking info to the Trump campaign against Hillary.

These incidents were actually admitted to by the principals involved.

The Russians were pushing fake news and hate news stories all over the web and social media to undermine HRC. This certainly helped lead to Democratic voter lethargy and lower turnouts on election day.

"San credible evidence"?


There is no such evidence at all. Hillary actually PAID Russians for a dossier on Trump. Are you kidding me? You don't care about "Russian interference". You just hate Trump. That's fine. But you should be able to admit as much.


What the fuck? Now Hillary "Paid Russians" for the dossier on Trump?

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GoldenJet wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Killer V wrote:
Here's your biased recap:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... cooper.cnn



I get the feeling you're using "biased" sarcastically here. But if there is no bias, why isn't CNN concerned about the original conspiracy theory that says Trump colluded with Russians or "hacked" the election sans any credible evidence?

In any case, the text messages suggest that at a minimum Hillary Clinton was treated with kid gloves. Can you imagine if texts between two agents on Mueller's team were discovered that said they didn't want to come loaded for bear against Trump because it looked like he was going to win the election? CNN would be pounding that story 24/7.


Are you fucking serious? Wait, of course you are.

There is evidence everywhere that Trump and/or his underlings got suckered into high level meetings with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.

There's actually evidence that the FBI was leaking info to the Trump campaign against Hillary.

These incidents were actually admitted to by the principals involved.

The Russians were pushing fake news and hate news stories all over the web and social media to undermine HRC. This certainly helped lead to Democratic voter lethargy and lower turnouts on election day.

"San credible evidence"?


There is no such evidence at all. Hillary actually PAID Russians for a dossier on Trump. Are you kidding me? You don't care about "Russian interference". You just hate Trump. That's fine. But you should be able to admit as much.


What the fuck? Now Hillary "Paid Russians" for the dossier on Trump?

This is fast becoming an act like Hannity is. Bravo performance! Bravo!
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It's an accepted FACT that Clinton's campaign paid for the dossier. How do you think Steele assembled the dossier? He hasn't been in Russia in 20 years. He reached out to Russian spies with Kremlin connections. I haven't heard anyone dispute that.

But again, you're not concerned with Russian interference except in as much as it can be used as a tool to undermine a president you feel was elected by slack-jawed racists.

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Horowitz, whose office is conducting its own review into the FBI's handling of the Clinton matter, discovered the texts over the summer and informed Mueller. Strzok was then reassigned. Page, meanwhile, left the team in July after her 45-day detail ended.

While Republicans have accused the two of bias against Trump, some of the texts suggest he was just one of many people targeted in their routine political banter.

At times, for instance, they were also critical of Clinton.

In addition, another Strzok text also appears to contradict the notion that the FBI is out to get Trump, after he told Page he was hesitant to join Mueller's team because of his "gut sense and concern there's no big there there."



Funny to see you playing the "But Clinton" line that MANY on the board have ridiculed conservatives, for doing the same thing.

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It's an accepted FACT that Clinton's campaign paid for the dossier. How do you think Steele assembled the dossier? He hasn't been in Russia in 20 years. He reached out to Russian spies with Kremlin connections. I haven't heard anyone dispute that.

But again, you're not concerned with Russian interference except in as much as it can be used as a tool to undermine a president you feel was elected by slack-jawed racists.


Correct JORR, Clinton paid for the fake dossier with campaign donations. The only Russian collusion going on was from Hillary and her cronies.

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Horowitz, whose office is conducting its own review into the FBI's handling of the Clinton matter, discovered the texts over the summer and informed Mueller. Strzok was then reassigned. Page, meanwhile, left the team in July after her 45-day detail ended.

While Republicans have accused the two of bias against Trump, some of the texts suggest he was just one of many people targeted in their routine political banter.

At times, for instance, they were also critical of Clinton.

In addition, another Strzok text also appears to contradict the notion that the FBI is out to get Trump, after he told Page he was hesitant to join Mueller's team because of his "gut sense and concern there's no big there there."



Funny to see you playing the "But Clinton" line that MANY on the board have ridiculed conservatives, for doing the same thing.


I just shared what has been confirmed in the texts. Like MANY they didn't like Hillary and didn't think there was evidence that the president did anything wrong. I know assassinating the character of these men and women is sexier but they don't sound like folks who were working to undermine the president.

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Personally, I think the Russians never thought Trump could win. They would have been perfectly happy to just sow American discontent, regardless of who won. Trump would have his network, all the far right conspiracy machines would be churning, working to unearth anything on President HRC. The Russians would be absolutely giddy either way.

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