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My guy says the memo was released to distract from the tanking stock market (currently down $600+) :shock:

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Disagree. LTG is doing very well against a multi-pronged attacked in the Nick Marotic thread.



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My guy says the memo was released to distract from the tanking stock market (currently down $600+) :shock:



The memo probably caused the tanking stock market.

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My guy says the memo was released to distract from the tanking stock market (currently down $600+) :shock:



The memo probably caused the tanking stock market.


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Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.



I seem to remember you being positively euphoric when Comey decided to reopen the Email investigation. It was obviously endorsed by Republican operatives yet you had no problem accepting to validity of the information.

This is quite the flip flop.

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Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.

But that is not the sole basis for the investigation...just another part which came after the investigation was under way. Also, I trust the FBI to be able to separate facts from pablum regardless of the source.

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Wellness Check on Baby McCown. This was supposed to be a big day for him.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.


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Wellness Check on Baby McCown. This was supposed to be a big day for him.


He's too busy winning to post a victory lap.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
My guy says the memo was released to distract from the tanking stock market (currently down $600+) :shock:


I wish it was only $600.

Looks like I'm back to posting here in the mornings until I'm in my 70s

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.



I seem to remember you being positively euphoric when Comey decided to reopen the Email investigation. It was obviously endorsed by Republican operatives yet you had no problem accepting to validity of the information.

This is quite the flip flop.


You remember wrong. At the time I thought Comey was covering his ass. He never should have made a statement that required clarification in the first place. Now I think he was covering his ass for more than just a mistake. And his tweets which are just slightly lower than Trump's on the insanity scale aren't doing much to dispel that.

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Wellness Check on Baby McCown. This was supposed to be a big day for him.


Last seen eating Carnitas and drinking Hopslam with a suspect individual. :lol:

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.

But that is not the sole basis for the investigation...just another part which came after the investigation was under way. Also, I trust the FBI to be able to separate facts from pablum regardless of the source.


I am sure the FBI also knows when they are dealing with a British spy who has a track record with it, too.


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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
My guy says the memo was released to distract from the tanking stock market (currently down $600+) :shock:


I wish it was only $600.

Looks like I'm back to posting here in the mornings until I'm in my 70s

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.



I seem to remember you being positively euphoric when Comey decided to reopen the Email investigation. It was obviously endorsed by Republican operatives yet you had no problem accepting to validity of the information.

This is quite the flip flop.


You remember wrong. At the time I thought Comey was covering his ass. He never should have made a statement that required clarification in the first place. Now I think he was covering his ass for more than just a mistake. And his tweets which are just slightly lower than Trump's on the insanity scale aren't doing much to dispel that.


That’s It! :lol: Mr. neutral independent indeed.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.

But that is not the sole basis for the investigation...just another part which came after the investigation was under way. Also, I trust the FBI to be able to separate facts from pablum regardless of the source.


The fact that it formed any part of an argument for probable cause for a warrant is extremely troubling, and the fact that Rosenstein did not inform the judge of the dossier's politicized origins is misconduct that should result in his termination.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.



I seem to remember you being positively euphoric when Comey decided to reopen the Email investigation. It was obviously endorsed by Republican operatives yet you had no problem accepting to validity of the information.

This is quite the flip flop.



You remember wrong. At the time I thought Comey was covering his ass. He never should have made a statement that required clarification in the first place. Now I think he was covering his ass for more than just a mistake. And his tweets which are just slightly lower than Trump's on the insanity scale aren't doing much to dispel that.


It was the text messaging philanderer covering his and Comey's butt, apparently, since he wrote the initial draft of Comey's statement reopening the email investigation.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.



I seem to remember you being positively euphoric when Comey decided to reopen the Email investigation. It was obviously endorsed by Republican operatives yet you had no problem accepting to validity of the information.

This is quite the flip flop.


You remember wrong. At the time I thought Comey was covering his ass. He never should have made a statement that required clarification in the first place. Now I think he was covering his ass for more than just a mistake. And his tweets which are just slightly lower than Trump's on the insanity scale aren't doing much to dispel that.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.



I seem to remember you being positively euphoric when Comey decided to reopen the Email investigation. It was obviously endorsed by Republican operatives yet you had no problem accepting to validity of the information.

This is quite the flip flop.


You remember wrong. At the time I thought Comey was covering his ass. He never should have made a statement that required clarification in the first place. Now I think he was covering his ass for more than just a mistake. And his tweets which are just slightly lower than Trump's on the insanity scale aren't doing much to dispel that.



No i don't remember it wrong. You never questioned his rationale for reopening the investigation. Even if he did so to "cover his ass" you were more than ready to accept the results if it meant doing away with Hillary Clinton.

His motivation for reopening received short shrift as long as it achieved the desired effect.

You even made the argument that he wouldn't be reopening the investigation if there was no there there.

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Isn't part of the issue with this memo that all of the information that would paint a correct picture of the facts cannot be shown for security reasons? So whatever is gleaned from it my in part be tarnished by the fact that the true reasoning behind said actions cannot be unclassified?

So we are kind of arguing over a part of an unfinished picture? Carry on by all means. Don't want to stand in the way of a good party.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.

But that is not the sole basis for the investigation...just another part which came after the investigation was under way. Also, I trust the FBI to be able to separate facts from pablum regardless of the source.


The fact that it formed any part of an argument for probable cause for a warrant is extremely troubling, and the fact that Rosenstein did not inform the judge of the dossier's politicized origins is misconduct that should result in his termination.


Based on this logic, it appears you would toss out 99% of any requests for criminal warrants because the info comes from sources of questionable background.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Isn't the veracity of the information more important than it's source?



I'm sure you understand why we can't have federal agencies basing investigations on the opposition research of political parties. Forget about Trump. Many people hate Trump and it is blinding them. Imagine if this story had the FBI moving against Hillary Clinton based on information sourced and paid for by Ted Cruz. Would you be blowing that off as a "nothingburger"? Because I sincerely don't believe you would. And Trump may be in business with Vladimir Putin and the entire dossier may be true. That simply misses the point.

But that is not the sole basis for the investigation...just another part which came after the investigation was under way. Also, I trust the FBI to be able to separate facts from pablum regardless of the source.


The fact that it formed any part of an argument for probable cause for a warrant is extremely troubling, and the fact that Rosenstein did not inform the judge of the dossier's politicized origins is misconduct that should result in his termination.


Are you limiting it to FISA court investigations? If not, seemingly every criminal investigation they undertake begins with the report of a disgruntled and interested party.

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I wasn’t born until 67. Remind me how much the folks in the 60s just blindly trusted Hoover and his boys.

As dontiny noted, this left-conspiracy is being led by a series of well-respected Republicans...at least they were well-respected until the Trumpets turned on them as a last means of defense. I’ll take Mueller’s ethics over Nunes, Hannity, and all of the other blithering sycophants.

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Isn't part of the issue with this memo that all of the information that would paint a correct picture of the facts cannot be shown for security reasons? So whatever is gleaned from it my in part be tarnished by the fact that the true reasoning behind said actions cannot be unclassified?

So we are kind of arguing over a part of an unfinished picture? Carry on by all means. Don't want to stand in the way of a good party.


Yep.

Does that professional memo sound all that different from a CFMB post?

One sided bs with a conclusion created before investigation into facts began.

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Same.


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Isn't part of the issue with this memo that all of the information that would paint a correct picture of the facts cannot be shown for security reasons? So whatever is gleaned from it my in part be tarnished by the fact that the true reasoning behind said actions cannot be unclassified?

So we are kind of arguing over a part of an unfinished picture? Carry on by all means. Don't want to stand in the way of a good party.

They don’t need to show the whole memo. They could show the Dem point by point response to it...but they won’t and we all know why.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Isn't part of the issue with this memo that all of the information that would paint a correct picture of the facts cannot be shown for security reasons? So whatever is gleaned from it my in part be tarnished by the fact that the true reasoning behind said actions cannot be unclassified?

So we are kind of arguing over a part of an unfinished picture? Carry on by all means. Don't want to stand in the way of a good party.

They don’t need to show the whole memo. They could show the Dem point by point response to it...but they won’t and we all know why.

I do not know which is more believable, people expressing absolute opinions based on a one-sided memo or the pant sizes being bandied about in this thread.


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