no one holds Lost, Frazier or Walking Dead up to the same level as Sopranos. MANY people claim Sopranos was an all time great show. I contend that it pretty much sucked beyond the first couple seasons. Basically nothing would happen and then in the last episode of every season something big would happen. And don't get me started on the entertainment-sucking scenes with Tony and his shrink. Not to mention the stupid dreams.

It was a bad show, not just overrated but bad.

Easily the most overrated show of all time IMO, not even close.

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Father Phil was a pretty weird character.

You're being chintzy on the definition of signature series'. Pretty sure Walking Dead and Lost had better ratings than Sopranos. But even if I accept your definition, there's always House of Cards. A series that threw shit at the wall to see what stuck. None of it did. Not a single piece of shit.

Again....I agree Sopranos over-rated.
As you said...first 2-3 seasons....awesome. It went to complete shit in a hurry.

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The Melfi scenes and family issues were what the show was actually about. You fucking people and your gangster shit.

Assuming Tony was killed in the diner (he was)


What happens to the NJ family?


Paulie is pretty much all that is left, right?

Paulie and Pasquale Parisi are the only remaining capos, and that guy who ultimately shot Phil Leotardo as well as the fat bald guy who was Tony's driver. Sylvio is in a coma and they SAID that the doctors don't think he'd wake up, but who knows.

But yeah, they'd be turned into what Carmine called them all along: A glorified crew.

Sal is almost recovered by now

One I dont believe was mentioned....Little Paulie. He gets his ass kicked or talked down to in like 80% of his scenes.

I think im gonna buy this book. Getting pretty good reviews. The guy was on MLB network last week and I think is on with Mac and Parkins today.

Yep he is on today. IS it already out?

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Elections have consequences.

Never watched Sopranos....just realized it is available on amazon prime....going to watch it

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Yes.

Which guy? I don't care for Zoller Seitz but Alan Sepinwall is great.


I'm also considering buying the book. I very much enjoyed Sepinwall's The Revolution Was Televised.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Sepinwall was the one on with Brian Kenny (kenny tweeted out the video if you're interested) and I believe that his who Mac and Parkins have on.


Did you read "All the Pieces Matter" about The Wire?

I haven't. I've come close to getting it a few times and probably will at some point.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Just saw he joins them at 1:50. 5 minute interview?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I didn't watch it during its original airing but binged a few years ago. I'm in the "best show ever" camp. Enjoy!

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Have you seen all the other contenders?



Sopranos
The Wire
Breaking Bad
My Two Dads
Mad Men


Ive not seen Mad Men.

I have The Wire as #1 with Sopranos and BB fighting it out for #2

What are you doing with your life Bryan? Go watch Mad Men now.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I think Rectify still has to be at #2 on my list. Sopranos probably would be 3.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I'd put BB at #2 and have Mad Men next on my list to watch. The Wire is further down in my queue.

I think I would rank Ozark a tad above Better Call Saul.

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I tried once and it didnt take.

Ill try again. Ill bet that guy in JLN's profile pic is a REAL ASSHOLE

I dont where to rank BCS. I think we'll have to see how it ends.

Ozark is decent, but it just feels like DIET Breaking Bad to me.

Agreed...hard to judge the writing of the series by itself vs together with BB. I think it gets an unfair (though thoroughly enjoyable) boost due to BB.

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Yes, but he's great.

It's kind of like The Wire in that it takes a little effort to get into it, but once you're in, it's more than worth it.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I can't imagine you not absolutely loving Roger Sterling's character.

And yeah, he's a pretty big asshole

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

To me, The Leftovers is the greatest TV show ever.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I disagree but I know most people take your view on the show.

I felt vindicated when W_Z loved BCS without ever watching BB.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Because it proved female rape is possible!