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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:29 pm 
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of 130 countries and territories shows that the U.S. has the world's highest rate of children living in single-parent households. “Almost a quarter of U.S. children under the age of 18 live with one parent and no other adults (23%), more than three times the share of children around the world who do so (7%)

Being in a dual parent house, everyone living under the same roof, with the same rules, dependent on a single source of income? sounds like the death of the individual and rather Red.

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i turned it down and i regret it because 40k is a fuck ton of money for a piece of shit like me.


I'm not good with this Ike. Don't put yourself down like this. You are a valuble person on this earth, remember that. And if this was caused by the posters here who always shit on you, well fuck them. Don't let them bring you down or lose your confidence. I won't name names but there are some killers on here. Let it roll off your back. I don't take anything they say about me seriously. you should do the same.

you may not think about it, but you are important to someone out there. Even maybe like a viewer on these forums that never posts. Hell, you're important to me! at least there's 1 person see!

Keep you head up pal! I'm there for you if you need help!



Thanks. The money shouldn't matter soon. I may be able to buy this chatboard. my initial offer will be $4 and it will be rejected, which i will counter with $44 billion. they will have to accept. and then i can rewrite the bbcode so everything is rainbow themed. and i will also unbann everyone that was ever banned here and allow unlimited mults. users who chose to have a custom avatar will have to pay $8 a month or a beer, which ever they chose. oh and i will ban religion, just like i would do if i were president.

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Hasn't someone around here repeatedly claimed that they were "done" only to keep popping up at some point? Anyhoodles and Just Asking Question.
In the meantime this very same person is going to instruct those excuse making Chicago teachers and their students just how much he identifies with them by moving a couple of hours away to a town with very little poverty in it. That will show them just how much he feels their "pain" won't it?
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The average household income in Lakemoor is $96,555 with a poverty rate of 6.57%.

You see poverty doesn't matter but if I had a choice I'd "much prefer" to live as far away from it as I possibly can
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Hasn't someone around here repeatedly claimed that they were "done" only to keep popping up at some point? Anyhoodles and Just Asking Question.
In the meantime this very same person is going to instruct those excuse making Chicago teachers and their students just how much he identifies with them by moving a couple of hours away to a town with very little poverty in it. That will show them just how much he feels their "pain" won't it?
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The average household income in Lakemoor is $96,555 with a poverty rate of 6.57%.

You see poverty doesn't matter but if I had a choice I'd "much prefer" to live as far away from it as I possibly can

Classic deflection. It's quite sweet to see you reach into your bag of psychological defense mechanisms for Lil ol me. I'm flattered.
"Teachers should still be able to educate kids who are poor"
"Yeah!? Well your town has average income of 96k!"

You're fucking pathetic.

I'm done with you. It was fun. Bye

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Being in a dual parent house, everyone living under the same roof, with the same rules, dependent on a single source of income? sounds like the death of the individual and rather Red.


i dont mind the death of the nuclear family... humans have been raising kids by village forever, and the nuclear family idea is new. i think it only worked because we designed our economic system around it. but now it's fading away, we need to change the rules. we have to stop expecting single people to pay for everyone that has kids and family. it makes no sense. just because i chose to save money by not doing the one thing nature intended me to do, now i have to spend more to exist?

problem is the government wants people to have kids. so they will continue to get the tax breaks and the welfares. and they wont be getting their abortion pills either. which is another point nobody brings up... the snowflakes always ask why the government hates abortions... duh you dumb shit, that was a future soldier. and no, we won't take care of it after it's born. no pampered kid will make a good death machine.

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Hasn't someone around here repeatedly claimed that they were "done" only to keep popping up at some point? Anyhoodles and Just Asking Question.
In the meantime this very same person is going to instruct those excuse making Chicago teachers and their students just how much he identifies with them by moving a couple of hours away to a town with very little poverty in it. That will show them just how much he feels their "pain" won't it?
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The average household income in Lakemoor is $96,555 with a poverty rate of 6.57%.

You see poverty doesn't matter but if I had a choice I'd "much prefer" to live as far away from it as I possibly can
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Do you realize that there are twice as many poor children that attend Simeon high school than happen to reside in this particular town? Just Asking A Question. And again nothing suggests that you are a "champion" of the poor quite like doing everything in your power to get as far away from them as you fucking can. All while pretending on a message board that you REALLY REALLY believe in them. And constantly grandstanding every step of the way.

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Once again, poor kids can't learn. It's everything's fault besides the teachers. Teachers cannot teach kids whose parents don't make enough money. It's science. Poor kids cannot learn.

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Now I ask again. Do you think that the dude who has made it his life's work to get as far away from "poor people" as he can is actually the person that "believes" in them? Or is it the people that have labored for decades in the hope of providing them with a better life and living conditions. Hey did you know that one of the sticking points during this last strike actually had to do with the issue of "affordable housing"? Do you think that guy residing in Lakemoor actually gives a shit that it was? Just Asking Questions

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Now I ask again. Do you think that the dude who has made it his life's work to get as far away from "poor people" as he can is actually the person that "believes" in them? Or is it the people that have labored for decades in the hope of providing them with a better life and living conditions. Hey did you know that one of the sticking points during this last strike actually had to do with the issue of "affordable housing"? Do you think that guy residing in Lakemoor actually gives a shit that it was? Just Asking Questions

You haven't labored for shit. All you said is that kids who have parents that don't make enough money cannot learn and there's nothing teachers can do to teach them. Loser. You suck at your job. You just can't be fired for it like everyone else.

Anyway, I gotta go teach my own apprentices tomorrow. Yeah. I teach this trade to others. Done it for 10 years. And never has their parents income level had a damn thing to do with whether I can teach them or not. Because I am damn successful at teaching the trade.

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Sort of tough to convince anyone that you "believe" in poor people when your life's work has involved doing any and everything you can to get as far away from them as you possibly can. Sounds good when you are engaging like minded guys on a message board I guess.

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Sort of tough to convince anyone that you "believe" in poor people when your life's work has involved doing any and everything you can to get as far away from them as you possibly can. Sounds good when you are engaging like minded guys on a message board I guess.

Poor effort. Terrible execution.
Just like you at work.

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You haven't labored for shit. All you said is that kids who have parents that don't make enough money cannot learn and there's nothing teachers can do to teach them
I never said this. You lied but what can I expect from someone that lies to himself daily?
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Loser. You suck at your job. You just can't be fired for it like everyone else.
Like who? The Black guys that your Union discriminated against and refused to provide work too? Bet you tell yourself that they really didn't "labor" either and "sucked" too as a form of "justification" don't you?
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Anyway, I gotta go teach my own apprentices tomorrow. Yeah. I teach this trade to others.
By chance has any of this tutelage ever occurred in any of the "urban vocational" schools with its "other" students? Just Asking A Question
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Done it for 10 years. And never has their parents income level had a damn thing to do with whether I can teach them or not.
Yeah but I guarantee that the ability of the students to pay does matter
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I have worked in just about every environment over the last 20 years. The exception being an upper middle class suburban public school. A lot of people like to interchange low income and minority, but the minority kids who come from families of city workers and college grads behave the same way the white kids with the same family structure do. It is also my experience low income white kids tend to act very similar to low income minority kids in school.

There are many kids from low income backgrounds who would have turned out perfectly fine if they lived in stable households. By stable I mean live in households where education is prioritized and the families keep the kids in the same house/schools. A lot of the challenges for low income kids come from the constant moving around they do. Schools do not teach things in the same order everywhere and the constant moving leads to gaps. We have a number of kids (ages 11-14) who miss multiple days a week to babysit younger siblings. This would never happen at a Catholic School. Not to mention the kids that are told the response to a disrespectful look is to try and fight the person. The amount of focus on not being disrespected while simultaneously doing disrespectful stuff to others is amazing.

Then you get the kids from overseas who have spent time in refugee camps. Or you get the girls who come from countries where custom is they stop going to school around 3rd/4th grade then work in the home until they are married off in their teens. All of a sudden they are in junior high after taking 2-3 years off of school. We can spend years trying to figure out if these kids are behind because of gaps, language barriers or are simply in need of special education. Many of these kids are working hard and trying to learn English and catch up to grade level, however their low test scores count the same for your school.

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In Finland the % of households headed by a single parent is nearly double that of the worldwide average and yet they are still able to have one of the best educational systems in the world nonetheless. Hmmm and rather interesting in fact.

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Kids shouldn't have to suffer so that Finnish teachers can still show that they outperform their US counter parts.

And none of these stats addresses deni$'$ still not disproven point that expectations have been lowered for US students.
They have been lowered for some US students.

It's just like healthcare. Our rankings are bad because of the bottom 20% and not the overall system.

I'm not saying this is a good or a bad thing but most kids are getting a quality education in America and some kids are getting a terrible one.

It's like if we sent me and SpiralStairs to the Olympics to represent Team USA basketball along with our best. We would take down the average talent of the team but we would still be the best team in the world. I'm not saying our education system is the best in the world but it's more like it is much more imbalanced and it isn't because of money because we spend a lot.

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All of the declarations about the quality of the U.S. education system would sound a whole lot better if the people making the declarations didn't go out of their way to make sure that neither they nor their children ever had to interact with "those" sorts of people. With this being the case all of the "advocating" for them just rings a tadbit hollow actually.

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All of the declarations about the quality of the U.S. education system would sound a whole lot better if the people making the declarations didn't go out of their way to make sure that neither they nor their children never have to interact with "those" sorts of people. With this being the case all of the "advocating" for them just rings a tadbit hollow actually.

That's why I am happy that there are a lot of dumb kids. It's like rooting for kids to be faster than yours. Nope. I want my kid to compete with kids who can barely read when he grows up.

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I have worked in just about every environment over the last 20 years. The exception being an upper middle class suburban public school. A lot of people like to interchange low income and minority, but the minority kids who come from families of city workers and college grads behave the same way the white kids with the same family structure do. It is also my experience low income white kids tend to act very similar to low income minority kids in school.

There are many kids from low income backgrounds who would have turned out perfectly fine if they lived in stable households. By stable I mean live in households where education is prioritized and the families keep the kids in the same house/schools. A lot of the challenges for low income kids come from the constant moving around they do. Schools do not teach things in the same order everywhere and the constant moving leads to gaps. We have a number of kids (ages 11-14) who miss multiple days a week to babysit younger siblings. This would never happen at a Catholic School. Not to mention the kids that are told the response to a disrespectful look is to try and fight the person. The amount of focus on not being disrespected while simultaneously doing disrespectful stuff to others is amazing.

Then you get the kids from overseas who have spent time in refugee camps. Or you get the girls who come from countries where custom is they stop going to school around 3rd/4th grade then work in the home until they are married off in their teens. All of a sudden they are in junior high after taking 2-3 years off of school. We can spend years trying to figure out if these kids are behind because of gaps, language barriers or are simply in need of special education. Many of these kids are working hard and trying to learn English and catch up to grade level, however their low test scores count the same for your school.


Yep. There are certain factors involved in education that just simply go beyond "instructional quality". And there is also a big difference between low income and extreme poverty too. There are challenges which confront some children that MANY here would never be able to quite comprehend to be honest. But hey when all you have to do or will ever be able to do is bark on a message board about how much you "care" then why would comprehension ever be all that necessary? Just Asking A Question

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All of the declarations about the quality of the U.S. education system would sound a whole lot better if the people making the declarations didn't go out of their way to make sure that neither they nor their children never have to interact with "those" sorts of people. With this being the case all of the "advocating" for them just rings a tadbit hollow actually.

That's why I am happy that there are a lot of dumb kids. It's like rooting for kids to be faster than yours. Nope. I want my kid to compete with kids who can barely read when he grows up.


Are you also happy that there are a lot of "poor" kids too? Just Asking A Question

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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.

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All of the declarations about the quality of the U.S. education system would sound a whole lot better if the people making the declarations didn't go out of their way to make sure that neither they nor their children never have to interact with "those" sorts of people. With this being the case all of the "advocating" for them just rings a tadbit hollow actually.

That's why I am happy that there are a lot of dumb kids. It's like rooting for kids to be faster than yours. Nope. I want my kid to compete with kids who can barely read when he grows up.

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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

It does stand to reason that Purdue Rick would also cheer for more of the poor. Pretty enlightening. I've said for quite some time this is exactly what the elite want. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent.


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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

It does stand to reason that Purdue Rick would also cheer for more of the poor. Pretty enlightening. I've said for quite some time this is exactly what the elite want. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent.


It's not just the elite but also those that believe that they are "elite" like Brick.

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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

It does stand to reason that Purdue Rick would also cheer for more of the poor. Pretty enlightening. I've said for quite some time this is exactly what the elite want. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent.


It's not just the elite but also those that believe that they are "elite" like Brick.

Like I said, enlightening. Most times, it's hard to sift through Purdue Rick's bucket of shit. On this one, it's crystal clear.


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Like I said, enlightening. Most times, it's hard to sift through Purdue Rick's bucket of shit. On this one, it's crystal clear.
It always has been. Brick is one of the leading "elitists" around here. Where ya been?

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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

It does stand to reason that Purdue Rick would also cheer for more of the poor. Pretty enlightening. I've said for quite some time this is exactly what the elite want. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent.
I don't want anyone to be poor but I also am realistic enough to know that someone will be. We can switch to Communism if you like and I'd change my outlook.

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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

It does stand to reason that Purdue Rick would also cheer for more of the poor. Pretty enlightening. I've said for quite some time this is exactly what the elite want. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent.
I don't want anyone to be poor but I also am realistic enough to know that someone will be. We can switch to Communism if you like and I'd change my outlook.

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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

It does stand to reason that Purdue Rick would also cheer for more of the poor. Pretty enlightening. I've said for quite some time this is exactly what the elite want. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent.
I don't want anyone to be poor but I also am realistic enough to know that someone will be. We can switch to Communism if you like and I'd change my outlook.

Very pragmatic. However, there's the matter of you wanting to have kids dumb and keeping them dumb for your own personal reasons. It's not exactly a reach to also cheer for them being poor as that enhances your personal goals.


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I don't care if the dumb kids are rich or poor.


Yes you do.

It does stand to reason that Purdue Rick would also cheer for more of the poor. Pretty enlightening. I've said for quite some time this is exactly what the elite want. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em dependent.
I don't want anyone to be poor but I also am realistic enough to know that someone will be. We can switch to Communism if you like and I'd change my outlook.

Very pragmatic. However, there's the matter of you wanting to have kids dumb and keeping them dumb for your own personal reasons. It's not exactly a reach to also cheer for them being poor as that enhances your personal goals.

Technically he’s supporting dumb kids for his own children’s benefit.

That’s a selfless selfishness and something most can get behind.

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Nardi wrote:
Very pragmatic. However, there's the matter of you wanting to have kids dumb and keeping them dumb for your own personal reasons. It's not exactly a reach to also cheer for them being poor as that enhances your personal goals.
Some of the richest people in the world are also some of the dumbest.

It's a little bit problematic you seem to equate the two. I hope that type of thinking will end with your generation.

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