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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Sat May 07, 2016 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Will Paul Ryan Run? |
I read this morning that Romney is part of an exploratory committee along with William Kristol to seek a third-party candidate to run against Trump. The logical choice for someone to do that would be Paul Ryan. Ryan would be a lame duck with Trump in the White House, so Ryan is essentially faced with a choice of running for President or going back to being a Wisconsin Rep. The two have recently escalated their war-of-words with one another. I think Trump would have problems with Ryan, because he's has the clout of being speaker, is knowledgeable on issues and is generally a likable guy who could work with Democrats and Republicans. When Ryan debated Biden, he certainly didn't lose, but if he did it wasn't by much. In any debate format, I'd expect Ryan to hold his own against Trump, which is probably all he has to do. In other words, he doesn't need a knock out to win. It would be ironic for a Republican Speaker to run against the elected Republican Party candidate as a third-party candidate. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Sat May 07, 2016 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
he's not going to run b/c he knows he will lose. he's got four years to prepare for the next go around. |
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| Author: | Minooka Meatball [ Sat May 07, 2016 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
He has already come out and said he's not going to run, so that means it's only 50/50 at this point  While a "third-party Republican" candidate would assure Hillary the win, it may be the best the Republican establishment can hope for at this point, and I can very well see them actively taking a poison pill for (at least) the next four years so they can ready a "real" candidate or two in 2020. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat May 07, 2016 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
He will run, and then lie about his time. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:05 am ] |
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Chus wrote: He will run, and then lie about his time. Or about his reliance on federal welfare/aid or his family business' reliance on federal contracting. Or maybe this shining star of the GOP will regale us with great stories taken from his great career in the private sector he touts at every turn. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:11 am ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: Chus wrote: He will run, and then lie about his time. Or about his reliance on federal welfare/aid or his family business' reliance on federal contracting. Or maybe this shining star of the GOP will regale us with great stories taken from his great career in the private sector he touts at every turn. Yeah, but Hillary is probably a lesbian. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:13 am ] |
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Chus wrote: He will run, and then lie about his time. I don't think he will run. It's fun to watch the money guys in the GOP top echelon try and hold on with their cold, dead hands though. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
if ryan runs, bernie should stay in it too. any other civilized country in the world has multiples of candidates to choose from every election. why we dwindle it down to 2 is dumb. bernie would actually have a shot if put up against 1 dem and 2 retards too |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
Seacrest wrote: Chus wrote: He will run, and then lie about his time. I don't think he will run. It's fun to watch the money guys in the GOP top echelon try and hold on with their cold, dead hands though. 
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| Author: | Nas [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:19 am ] |
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Ryan isn't running. If there was a way for republicsns to keep Trump or Hillary from getting a majority of the EC votes they would try. That way the Republicsn controlled house could choose the next president. |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:28 am ] |
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It won't happen this time around sadly, but Ryan / Sandoval will crush everybody including an incumbent HRC in 2020. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Sat May 07, 2016 10:30 am ] |
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Seacrest wrote: Chus wrote: He will run, and then lie about his time. I don't think he will run. It's fun to watch the money guys in the GOP top echelon try and hold on with their cold, dead hands though. Thank you for sharing that, Rev. |
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| Author: | Edward Dickman [ Sat May 07, 2016 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
The republicsn party and its politicians are a complete joke. This might just be the beginning of the end of the party. Maybe Bernie will start a party of the people. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Sun May 08, 2016 12:14 am ] |
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There's too many idiots who call themselves idiot republicans tho |
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Sun May 08, 2016 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
Minooka Meatball wrote: He has already come out and said he's not going to run, so that means it's only 50/50 at this point While a "third-party Republican" candidate would assure Hillary the win, it may be the best the Republican establishment can hope for at this point, and I can very well see them actively taking a poison pill for (at least) the next four years so they can ready a "real" candidate or two in 2020. What's more important is that Ryan hasn't endorsed Trump. That suggests he is keeping the door open for a run. |
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Sun May 08, 2016 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
Op-Ed Today by Maureen Dowd in the NYT. Pretty funny. WASHINGTON — PAUL RYAN and Donald Trump sit down at Republican National Committee headquarters on Capitol Hill to hash out a couple little things, like who is running the party and who is the actual Republican. “Welcome to Washington, Donald,” Ryan says, shaking hands with the presumptuous nominee. “Reince says you’re far more gracious in private than in public and I sure hope that’s true.” Trump smirks and pulls out his bottle of industrial-strength sanitizer, squirting a prodigious amount on his hands. Trying to thaw the chill, the House speaker displays his best ingratiating Irish undertaker air. “Hey,” he says, “thanks for not calling me Lyin’ Ryan.” “I never use the same adjective twice,” Trump replies coolly. “As you know, I do have killer instincts. That’s how I knocked out 16 losers. So let’s try a few names for kicks. Pious Paul? Pompous Paul? Phony Paul? Back-Stabbing, Blindsiding Paul who hung me out to dry to protect his own presidential ambitions for 2020?” Ryan blanches, protesting: “No, no, I just want us to come together with a positive vision.” “I am positive,” Trump says, manspreading as party aides cower in the corners. “I’m positive that what you did was terrible. You’re just giving cover to more traitors, like that reject Lindsey Graham, who I beat like a toy drum. Now Nasty Lindsey’s on TV spewing hate and saying my convention should be held in Area 51. The only number he needs to remember is zero — the number of votes he got.” Ryan puts on his best altar-boy demeanor, which annoys Trump. “Look at that face!” the billionaire mocks. “Or should I say two? Two-Faced Paul. You’re just mad because you and Mitt wanted to lead white male America and instead I’m going to. Romney choked. And what about that time you lied about how fast you ran a marathon? Cheatin’ Ryan. A choker and a cheater.” “Now Donald, be reasonable,” Ryan says. “I’m just trying to figure out how to endorse you and not put my own majority at risk. We can’t be a bigoted, angry party. You just make our problem with Hispanics worse when you tweet a picture of yourself eating a taco bowl on Cinco de Mayo.” “No way, José,” Trump says. “That got 80,000 retweets and 100,000 likes. Muy bueno. I have eight million Twitter followers. You have, like, one million and need two accounts to get there.” Ryan rolls his eyes. “Thousands of those retweets were by people you offended,” he says. “You can’t judge everything by numbers. We have to maintain American values. Banning Muslims is not what we stand for. Try to be more like Reagan.” “Fine,” Trump shoots back. “I’ll start my campaign in Mississippi Klan territory like Reagan. You establishment guys are such phonies. You wanna use race as a wedge issue but be subtle about it. I AM NOT SUBTLE. I have brought millions of people into the party and you have been unbelievably unfair to me. I am the greatest political phenomenon in history.” “Donald, you need to rein it in,” Ryan persists. “Your volatility scares people. Everyone is shuddering at the thought that you are about to get classified intelligence briefings and at your bromance with Putin. No one believes that you’re a genuine conservative. You support Planned Parenthood, raising the minimum wage and some higher taxes on the wealthy, our people. You’re Bernie Sanders with even weirder hair.” “Well, Two-Face,” Trump retorts, “if you’re such a big-deal conservative, why did you push for that budget increasing spending by billions, funding Obama’s executive amnesty program, relocation of terrorist refugees and sanctuaries cities — but somehow no money for the border fence? You’re a white Obama. Bad! Sad!! The nuns said your budgets were so mean and un-Christian they wanted to beat erasers around your head.” “Donald, the party is off the rails,” Ryan says. “Ordinarily, people who hate each other always pretend not to once the nomination has been clinched. Jeez, the Bushes are boycotting your convention.” Trump harrumphs. “Well, I have Four-Eyes Rick Perry doing a groveling about-face to support me. Who wants the Bushes, that pathetic dynasty? Sour grapes because I called out W. on his horrible war and Jeb on his terrible campaign. No low energy in Cleveland! My convention is going to rock with celebrities and hot women. We’re going to have Mike Tyson and that tiger. We’re going to have Bobby Knight and Miss Aruba M.C.-ing. We might even have a beauty pageant with Gary Busey judging. Carly won’t be in it. But your wife——” Ryan interrupts quickly, “Donald, you have to stop insulting women. You’re starting to make Todd Akin sound like Lena Dunham.” “Women love me!” Trump objects. “Didn’t you see that famous New York Post headline quoting Marla, my second wife, saying, ‘Best Sex I’ve Ever Had’? I love the women who vote for me — even the poorly educated, flat-chested ones.” Ryan, beaten down and late for his P90X workout in the House gym, gives it one last shot. “Donald, you need to stop quoting The National Enquirer and do some homework,” he pleads. “You can’t suggest we are going to slough off our debt, even though that’s what you did with your creditors when you kept going bankrupt. And you should remember that I’m the senior elected Republican in the country.” “For now,” Trump murmurs, taking out his hair spray for a spritz before he walks past the press octopus. “What I will remember is that you sabotaged me when I should have been savoring my success. And you should remember the No. 1 rule from “The Art of the Deal”: There can be only one No. 1, Two-Face.” |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Sun May 08, 2016 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
SomeGuy wrote: Seacrest wrote: Chus wrote: He will run, and then lie about his time. I don't think he will run. It's fun to watch the money guys in the GOP top echelon try and hold on with their cold, dead hands though. Thank you for sharing that, Rev. And thanks to for following me on the CSFMB. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Sun May 08, 2016 11:21 am ] |
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#notallrepublicans 
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun May 08, 2016 4:21 pm ] |
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Maureen Dowd really should leave the fiction writing to anyone else. Even Beardown. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Sun May 08, 2016 4:26 pm ] |
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Edward Dickman wrote: The republicsn party and its politicians are a complete joke. This might just be the beginning of the end of the party. Maybe Bernie will start a party of the people. What people, exactly? |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Sun May 08, 2016 6:03 pm ] |
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SomeGuy wrote: Edward Dickman wrote: The republicsn party and its politicians are a complete joke. This might just be the beginning of the end of the party. Maybe Bernie will start a party of the people. What people, exactly? People who condone thievery by legislation. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Sun May 08, 2016 6:26 pm ] |
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Mr. Reason wrote: SomeGuy wrote: Edward Dickman wrote: The republicsn party and its politicians are a complete joke. This might just be the beginning of the end of the party. Maybe Bernie will start a party of the people. What people, exactly? People who condone thievery by legislation. 
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| Author: | Edward Dickman [ Sun May 08, 2016 7:36 pm ] |
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SomeGuy wrote: Edward Dickman wrote: The republicsn party and its politicians are a complete joke. This might just be the beginning of the end of the party. Maybe Bernie will start a party of the people. What people, exactly? The 99%. You know, the majority that no one in DC cares about. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Sun May 08, 2016 7:41 pm ] |
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Edward Dickman wrote: SomeGuy wrote: Edward Dickman wrote: The republicsn party and its politicians are a complete joke. This might just be the beginning of the end of the party. Maybe Bernie will start a party of the people. What people, exactly? The 99%. You know, the majority that no one in DC cares about. The Dems have claimed to care about those folks for the last 60+ years and the crony capitalism perpetuated by Washington had only served to enrich the 1%, especially over the last 7 years. |
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| Author: | Sir Loin Of Beef [ Fri May 13, 2016 12:23 pm ] |
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Chus wrote: He will run, and then lie about his time. Yeah... probably 20 minutes before getting to the office and then maybe another 30 minutes to run off that burger he had at lunch. |
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| Author: | Edward Dickman [ Fri May 13, 2016 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Will Paul Ryan Run? |
Ryan and the repugnants just want to slap Trump around a little bit to make sure he understands their program. There will be a group hug soon and everyone will unite behind this turd of a human being. There might just be more fireworks at the dem convention and I wont be surprised if it is brokered. A man can hope. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Fri May 13, 2016 2:44 pm ] |
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Edward Dickman wrote: Ryan and the repugnants just want to slap Trump around a little bit to make sure he understands their program. There will be a group hug soon and everyone will unite behind this turd of a human being. There might just be more fireworks at the dem convention and wont be surprised of it is brokered. A man can hope. All kabuki theater at this point. |
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