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Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:40 am ]
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...when CSFMB sucked so badly and the operator was despised and MSFMB was a welcome alternative with a liberating operator?
Author:  Nas [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:44 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
...when CSFMB sucked so badly and the operator was despised and MSFMB was a welcome alternative with a liberating operator?


TWTW
Author:  Nas [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Did CSFMB Succeed And MSFMB Fail...
As a community we rallied around one another to defeat MSFMB. Of course their launch made it somewhat easy.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:49 am ]
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One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:54 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
...when CSFMB sucked so badly
I don't believe anyone who still regularly posts here said or felt that ever.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:54 am ]
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The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
Author:  JORR [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:55 am ]
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I would point to the leaked internal correspondence from MSFMB COO OKC.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 31, 2016 7:59 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:01 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?

I dont think that's true.


CSFMB was an established neighborhood treasure and they tried to open up a very similar place across the street. And there was no hook. Come here and do the same thing you do at the other board with less people and more Milwaukee focus?
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:02 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?


Why do you think?
Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:03 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?


Because you made the first part up?
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:05 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?

I dont think that's true.


CSFMB was an established neighborhood treasure and they tried to open up a very similar place across the street. And there was no hook. Come here and do the same thing you do at the other board with less people and more Milwaukee focus?

Image
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:05 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?


Why do you think?


What does it matter what I think?

I was on the outside of the situation. I was never dissatisfied here so leaving never occurred to me. Your viewpoint of your failed rebellion would be much more informative as there seem to be feelings that remain.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:07 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
...when CSFMB sucked so badly
I don't believe anyone who still regularly posts here said or felt that ever.


You could have fooled me from what I read this weekend.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why Did CSFMB Succeed And MSFMB Fail...
good dolphin wrote:

What does it matter what I think?

I was on the outside of the situation. I was never dissatisfied here so leaving never occurred to me. Your viewpoint of your failed rebellion would be much more informative as there seem to be feelings that remain.


You were not on the outside of the situation. You were Captain CSFMB.

I gave my viewpoint a few posts up.

What feelings remain?
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:08 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?


Because you made the first part up?


CSFMB failed and MSFMB succeeded?
Author:  Nas [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:17 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
good dolphin wrote:

What does it matter what I think?

I was on the outside of the situation. I was never dissatisfied here so leaving never occurred to me. Your viewpoint of your failed rebellion would be much more informative as there seem to be feelings that remain.


You were not on the outside of the situation. You were Captain CSFMB.

I gave my viewpoint a few posts up.

What feelings remain?


I was Captain CSFMB. Some of my best work. Unfortunately half was deleted.
Author:  Brick [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:18 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
This is the right answer.

I'm still surprised when the people were banned here that more didn't jump over. bigfan banned leash for like 11 months and leash stayed loyal to bigfan and returned. Others got long bans and still didn't go over there. I think they actually deserve some credit for that.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:20 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
This is the right answer.

I'm still surprised when the people were banned here that more didn't jump over. bigfan banned leash for like 11 months and leash stayed loyal to bigfan and returned. Others got long bans and still didn't go over there. I think they actually deserve some credit for that.

different content/vibe
Author:  Nas [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:21 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
This is the right answer.

I'm still surprised when the people were banned here that more didn't jump over. bigfan banned leash for like 11 months and leash stayed loyal to bigfan and returned. Others got long bans and still didn't go over there. I think they actually deserve some credit for that.


#Patriotism
Author:  Nas [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:23 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
This is the right answer.

I'm still surprised when the people were banned here that more didn't jump over. bigfan banned leash for like 11 months and leash stayed loyal to bigfan and returned. Others got long bans and still didn't go over there. I think they actually deserve some credit for that.

different content/vibe


I love Keesha, Pamela and Renee.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:23 am ]
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Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
good dolphin wrote:

What does it matter what I think?

I was on the outside of the situation. I was never dissatisfied here so leaving never occurred to me. Your viewpoint of your failed rebellion would be much more informative as there seem to be feelings that remain.


You were not on the outside of the situation. You were Captain CSFMB.

I gave my viewpoint a few posts up.

What feelings remain?


I was Captain CSFMB. Some of my best work. Unfortunately half was deleted.


:lol:

Yeah you were.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:23 am ]
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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
This is the right answer.

I'm still surprised when the people were banned here that more didn't jump over. bigfan banned leash for like 11 months and leash stayed loyal to bigfan and returned. Others got long bans and still didn't go over there. I think they actually deserve some credit for that.


#Patriotism


I remained loyal to the people of this board because it really is a good group with lots of different viewpoints. Rick and others also advocated for me for those months, which I know was tough to do because if they said the wrong thing, they would have been banned themselves. I felt a duty to come back for those who stood up for me and FF.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:24 am ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
This is the right answer.

I'm still surprised when the people were banned here that more didn't jump over. bigfan banned leash for like 11 months and leash stayed loyal to bigfan and returned. Others got long bans and still didn't go over there. I think they actually deserve some credit for that.

different content/vibe


Who defines the content/vibe?
Author:  Hussra [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:24 am ]
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T-n-A pic threads.

Also, this board caught Blackhawk fever right around then and tailed the Blackhawks to success. I bet even BigFan--the guy who started a chicago sports fan message board sans any Blackhawks section-- has a Toews jersey now.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:25 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
One was an original.

One was very similar to another board and relied almost exclusively on that board's members for their market share.


In those situations, the older is usually labeled as uncool while the newer is the place to be. The opposite occurred. Why is that?


Because you made the first part up?


CSFMB failed and MSFMB succeeded?


That the older website is labeled uncool and everyone jumps ship. Clearly, the existing website would have the advantage with loyalty, habits, familiarity, being saved to everyone's favorites, etc.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:25 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
You could have fooled me from what I read this weekend.
You either didn't read everything, or you are only comprehending what you choose to.

My second post on the subject from this weekend started with this;
Frank Coztansa wrote:
He ran this board for a long time. It was never perfect, but FAR more good came of it than anything. He was given many kudos (even from me) when the news of a change in ownership broke, and they were well deserved.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:28 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
good dolphin wrote:

What does it matter what I think?

I was on the outside of the situation. I was never dissatisfied here so leaving never occurred to me. Your viewpoint of your failed rebellion would be much more informative as there seem to be feelings that remain.


You were not on the outside of the situation. You were Captain CSFMB.

?


of course I was on the outside. I've been through several existential crises at this place and the MSFMB was no different. The bored has endured through far more than your revolution.
Author:  AntiCrewMult [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:33 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
I've been through several existential crises at this place and the MSFMB was no different. The bored has endured through far more than your revolution.



THE BOARD GOT THRU THE SILENT PROTESTS, THE IS0P, THE MSFMB REVOLT, BUT CAN IT MAKE IT THRU THE MODERATION OF THE THREE IDIOTS?
Author:  Kirkwood [ Tue May 31, 2016 8:34 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
The exclusionary tone we started with turned people off, and the "shit talking" of some members finished the job.

The chance was there. Ball was dropped.
This is the right answer.

I'm still surprised when the people were banned here that more didn't jump over. bigfan banned leash for like 11 months and leash stayed loyal to bigfan and returned. Others got long bans and still didn't go over there. I think they actually deserve some credit for that.

different content/vibe


Who defines the content/vibe?

founding posters.

truth is csfmb draws in the ratings with all the bickering/debating/trolling/insults and threats of assault

msfmb - wheaton
csfmb - gary
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