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What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
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Author:  IMU [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Answer the poll question to the best of your feeble ability.

Choose any and all answers you feel would be a defined "choke" and not just an "any given Sunday" type of situation.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Tunney wins the plaza fight.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
I honestly don't even understand the question or why anyone would care. If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win. I'm not going to lose sleep because someone thinks they "choked."
Author:  conns7901 [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
If they don't go 11-0.
Author:  Northside_Dan [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Missing the playoffs qualifies as a choke at this stage.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
leashyourkids wrote:
If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win.
That sounds pretty binary to me.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Barring catastrophic injuries piling up, the answer is up to, and including, losing in the NLDS.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win.
That sounds pretty binary to me.


In the context of "choking", yes... I won't look back in ten years if they lose and care whether they "choked". I will just know that they lost.
Author:  IMU [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:11 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
I honestly don't even understand the question or why anyone would care. If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win. I'm not going to lose sleep because someone thinks they "choked."

It isn't about losing sleep. Believe me...I'm the one that came up with my "points system" two years ago and am comfortable with it. I rarely think about what gets Frank off. ;)

But it is interesting to see others' opinions...even if I give them no weight when it comes to my own decision making.
Author:  Kirkwood [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:11 am ]
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A piece of concrete doesn't fall on Frank's head when he's at Pearl Jam
Author:  Brick [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win.
That sounds pretty binary to me.


In the context of "choking", yes... I won't look back in ten years if they lose and care whether they "choked". I will just know that they lost.
So you viewed last years loss the same as 2003?
Author:  IMU [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:12 am ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Barring catastrophic injuries piling up, the answer is up to, and including, losing in the NLDS.

This is what I chose. It would be unfortunate to lose in the NLCS again, but that cannot be considered a choke.

Unless it occurs four seasons in a row.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:13 am ]
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IMU wrote:
This is what I chose. It would be unfortunate to lose in the NLCS again, but that cannot be considered a choke.
:lol:

The best hitting, pitching, and fielding team not making the World Series would not be a choke?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:13 am ]
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Nice try, Kirkwood. I'll be on the field, not in the crumbling stands. I'll be sure to spit on the ivy for you though.


To answer IMU's question, based on the posts he had made and threads he has started, clearly its winning 2 or less World Series titles.

Don Tiny has the correct answer so far.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:13 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win.
That sounds pretty binary to me.


In the context of "choking", yes... I won't look back in ten years if they lose and care whether they "choked". I will just know that they lost.
So you viewed last years loss the same as 2003?


Yes. Both were upsetting for different reasons.
Author:  IMU [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
If they lose, they lose. If they win, they win.
That sounds pretty binary to me.


In the context of "choking", yes... I won't look back in ten years if they lose and care whether they "choked". I will just know that they lost.
So you viewed last years loss the same as 2003?

Most would agree 2003 was a choke.

Though a loss is a loss either way.

The 2015 playoffs felt much more successful, for many reasons, even though last year there were no NLCS games won.
Author:  IMU [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:14 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
IMU wrote:
This is what I chose. It would be unfortunate to lose in the NLCS again, but that cannot be considered a choke.
:lol:

The best hitting, pitching, and fielding team not making the World Series would not be a choke?

Correct.

Anything can happen in four straight games. It would be extremely disappointing, but it wouldn't be a choke.

The best regular season team does not always win the World Series. In fact, most years the best regular season team does not.

The Cubs are historically good through almost a third of the regular season. But that is the regular season.
Author:  denisdman [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:14 am ]
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They already choked. Was expecting 160-2 or better.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
IMU wrote:
Most would agree 2003 was a choke.
Well, leash doesn't.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:17 am ]
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My vote would be for losing the BP cup.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Frank Coztansa wrote:
My vote would be for losing the BP cup.

The problem is it's impossible to tell if you're posting this unironically.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:20 am ]
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They have to WIN the world series or put up a hell of a battle in the WS or it is a FAIL!

like that seattle team that won 120 games and choked.
Author:  Hockey Gay [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:22 am ]
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Not winning the division at this point or blowing a 2 game lead in the playoffs to lose.

Just straight up losing in the playoffs isn't a choke since it's a total crap shoot.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:22 am ]
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Hockey Gay wrote:
Just straight up losing in the playoffs isn't a choke since it's a total crap shoot.
There it is!
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:23 am ]
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Hockey Gay wrote:
Not winning the division at this point or blowing a 2 game lead in the playoffs to lose.

Just straight up losing in the playoffs isn't a choke since it's a total crap shoot.

Statistically your expecations are more sound than what I said ... I'm just expecting more than I should, as any long-time Cubs fan would.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:26 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hockey Gay wrote:
Just straight up losing in the playoffs isn't a choke since it's a total crap shoot.
There it is!

There what is?
Author:  Kirkwood [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:26 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Nice try, Kirkwood. I'll be on the field, not in the crumbling stands. I'll be sure to spit on the ivy for you though.

Concert security not kicking you in the penis and escorting you out of the stadium before the 1st song.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Don Tiny wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hockey Gay wrote:
Just straight up losing in the playoffs isn't a choke since it's a total crap shoot.
There it is!

There what is?
It.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What would be considered a 2016 Cubs choke?
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hockey Gay wrote:
Just straight up losing in the playoffs isn't a choke since it's a total crap shoot.
There it is!

There what is?
It.

I think you're it, fella.
Author:  Brick [ Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:30 am ]
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It's the dumbest excuse in sports that the MLB playoffs are a crap shoot and don't matter.

It is either 1) Not true or 2) Baseball is a dumb sport without skill and not worth paying attention to.
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