I'd like to think/pretend this will actually be an evening of (mostly) salient points and polite back-and-forth between adults who can comport themselves respectfully in public, rather than the chas v. Scooter farce that preceded it ... the debate circuit equivalent of that scene from the third Matrix movie when Trinity pilots the ship up and over the clouds and sees the real blue sky for the first time in her life, if only for a moment, then hurtles back into the soupy shit of the Earth below.

The bell rings @ 8pm locally and is one fall with a 90 minute time limit pitting one Mike Pence (Governor of Indiana) against Tim Kaine (D Senator from Virginia). Your referee is Elaine Quijano currently of CBS News, formerly CNN, Skokie, and Morton Grove.

The Tale of the Tape:
http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike_Pence.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Tim_Kaine.htm

Watch, or don't.

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boring and nobody cares. trainwrecks are fun to watch, so whats the point of this

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Some of us don't suffer from CTE, ike.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Well the RNC website has already told us how it went so now we don't have to bother

They're breaking kayfabe!

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I have a sneaking suspicion that when the RNC mentions 'The Gorilla Position' that it's a dreadfully racist remark.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

not even done with their opening statements, its clear this election is focused on winning the middle class vote.

so was obamas campaigns... and the result was achieving a grand ejaculation equivalent to 6 hour masturbation sessions finished with 20 cigarettes and more than a few shots of wiskey.

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Kaine hitting Trump hard. Tempting Pence to go after Clinton. Doesn't seem like that's his desire but he may have to go there.

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Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.- JD Vance
If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists

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I would send $50 to whatever foundation will guarantee me a debate wherein anyone who interrupts the other is first tazed, then kicked in the nuts, then, after the third instance, tossed into a woodchipper. I realize this evening's format somewhat encourages it, I still don't like it. If I want multiple big mouths yammering at once I'd go see an opera.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Senator Kaine is interrupting too much and not smiling. Other than that he's fired up and ready to go.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

pence definitely more seasoned. well trained. kaine coming off as genuine. exactly what i thought. pents is very similar to cheney. he already praised coal.

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I realize this is the "discussion" portion but Kaine better watch the interruptions. Bad from a likability standpoint.

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Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.- JD Vance
If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists

The War on Coal

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

So Pence won the debate. Trumps team is dominating these things.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

hes not sniffling

and hes spent more time listening than speaking. WATCH REALITY dumbass

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yup. in the opening statement. thats your ticket people.... lets shit in our beds.

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Every time I look at Pence I see the "From Russia With Love"-era Robert Shaw.

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I could never do this with a split screen. I would be mouthing swear words and insults the whole time the other guy was speaking.

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Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.- JD Vance
If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists

People in Fort Wayne deserve to suffer.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

lol

pence just said "ok senator, you can roll out the facts but blah blah blah"

this is actually pretty good

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Did Pence go with the "you can roll out the numbers" retort? Does the eyeball test apply to politics?

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Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.- JD Vance
If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists

Kaine making good points, but is getting really face-punchingly annoying.

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wow.. go kaine. dude is slamming homeruns!

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Two people who can actually debate is unique to this election cycle.

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Atta girl.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

jeezus,,, kaine is way smarter than i thought he was. pence is no idiot either, but theres no way to defend the facts.

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Has Mike Pence answered 1 question?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

For one brief shining moment, but in general, she is letting Kaine run roughshod over everything Pence tries to say. Hillary's people need to give Kaine the "throat-slit" signal.

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Pence - "all we have said on that is we will meet the obligations of social security and Medicare". I.e., ignore what we have said (or written) previously. No explanation on how we will do this. But we will.

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Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.- JD Vance
If you committed violence on that day, obviously, you shouldn’t be pardoned.- JD Vance on the J-6 insurrectionists