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Author:  conns7901 [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Longtimeguy
How long will the CPS strike last for?
Author:  long time guy [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
conns7901 wrote:
How long will the CPS strike last for?



This one may take awhile. I don't sense the level of acrimony between Lewis and Rahm this time. I just don't know if the funds are there. They may try and plug it with TIF money but that really isn't a long term solution. Lewis agreed to an earlier contract but her delegates nixed it.
Author:  conns7901 [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
long time guy wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
How long will the CPS strike last for?



This one may take awhile. I don't sense the level of acrimony between Lewis and Rahm this time. I just don't know if the funds are there. They may try and plug it with TIF money but that really isn't a long term solution. Lewis agreed to an earlier contract but her delegates nixed it.


Do you think if that contract had made it to the teachers it would of passed?
Author:  Nas [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?
Author:  leashyourkids [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
Who shot J.R.?
Author:  Don Tiny [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?

Hey buddy ...
Author:  long time guy [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?

Trust to your instincts
If it's safely restrained
Lightning reactions
Must be carefully trained

Heat of the moment
Curse of the young
Spit out your anger
Don't swallow your tongue

[Chorus:]
Stick it out
Don't swallow the poison
Spit it out
Don't swallow your pride
Stick it out
Don't swallow your anger
Spit it out
Don't swallow the lies

Natural reflex
Pendulum swing
You might be too dizzy
To do the right thing

Trial under fire
Ultimate proof
Moment of crisis
Don't swallow the truth

[Chorus]

Each time we bathe our reactions
In artificial light
Each time we alter the focus
To make the wrong moves seem right

You get so used to deception
You make yourself a nervous wreck
You get so used to surrender
Running back to cover your neck
Author:  long time guy [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
conns7901 wrote:
long time guy wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
How long will the CPS strike last for?



This one may take awhile. I don't sense the level of acrimony between Lewis and Rahm this time. I just don't know if the funds are there. They may try and plug it with TIF money but that really isn't a long term solution. Lewis agreed to an earlier contract but her delegates nixed it.


Do you think if that contract had made it to the teachers it would of passed?



Don't know. They voted at a 96% rate for the strike authorization. However the vote had a totalitarian feel to it. Vote was not private.
Author:  Nas [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.


Well this won't last long.
Author:  312player [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.





Only had what 2 paychecks so far? ...should have collected 2 checks in October and 2 more in November and then struck after a check in December... Poor planning IMO
Author:  conns7901 [ Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
312player wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.





Only had what 2 paychecks so far? ...should have collected 2 checks in October and 2 more in November and then struck after a check in December... Poor planning IMO


Every job I have had gave you the option of 21 checks or 26 to stretch out over summer. I would assume CPS does the same thing but not sure.
Author:  formerlyknownas [ Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
conns7901 wrote:
312player wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.





Only had what 2 paychecks so far? ...should have collected 2 checks in October and 2 more in November and then struck after a check in December... Poor planning IMO


Every job I have had gave you the option of 21 checks or 26 to stretch out over summer. I would assume CPS does the same thing but not sure.

Conns, what subject do you teach?
Author:  conns7901 [ Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
formerlyknownas wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
312player wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.





Only had what 2 paychecks so far? ...should have collected 2 checks in October and 2 more in November and then struck after a check in December... Poor planning IMO


Every job I have had gave you the option of 21 checks or 26 to stretch out over summer. I would assume CPS does the same thing but not sure.

Conns, what subject do you teach?


Math
Author:  Telegram Sam [ Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
conns7901 wrote:
Do you think if that contract had made it to the teachers it would of passed?


conns7901 wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Conns, what subject do you teach?


Math


Whew.
Author:  Nas [ Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
No strike
Author:  conns7901 [ Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
Nas wrote:
No strike


Sounds like Rahm broke and will be giving up some of the hundreds of millions in TIF money to the schools.
Author:  312player [ Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
conns7901 wrote:
312player wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.





Only had what 2 paychecks so far? ...should have collected 2 checks in October and 2 more in November and then struck after a check in December... Poor planning IMO


Every job I have had gave you the option of 21 checks or 26 to stretch out over summer. I would assume CPS does the same thing but not sure.





That option stopped last year
Author:  long time guy [ Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
312player wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
312player wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
Are teachers prepared to stick it out?


I had one tell me Friday that she can holdout for about a week.



It was actually about 3 yrs ago. No more deferred pay. The board stopped it.


Only had what 2 paychecks so far? ...should have collected 2 checks in October and 2 more in November and then struck after a check in December... Poor planning IMO


Every job I have had gave you the option of 21 checks or 26 to stretch out over summer. I would assume CPS does the same thing but not sure.





That option stopped last year
Author:  conns7901 [ Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Longtimeguy
Making new teachers take 7 percent cut will eventually kill the union. It will take about 10-15 years though before their numbers are up to turn tables on the older teachers. Also, my guess is you see massive cuts in nontenured teachers this year to get more with the 7% pay cut.
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