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Author:  Nas [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:12 pm ]
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Who you got?

Author:  Brick [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:16 pm ]
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I was rooting for Hillary until she went negative in this campaign.

Author:  long time guy [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:17 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Who you got?


This is a really good and relevant question. Will the Never Trumpers decide to show their hand or will they make it merely a perpetuation of the Hillary Clinton bashing that goes on elsewhere.

Author:  long time guy [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:18 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I was rooting for Hillary until she went negative in this campaign.


Is that a vote for Trump?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:22 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Who you got?
I've got a comet screaming towards Earth to bring us all sweet relief.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:27 pm ]
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Theo Epstein/Jed Hoyer

Author:  denisdman [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:02 pm ]
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Wife and I will vote for Johnson. Most of my friends are writing in Paul Ryan. The elders like Trump.

Most of the Sunday morning talk shows felt Hillary will win. Trumps only chance is if there is truly a hidden vote not showing up in the polls as has happened with the Brexit vote, Columbias Farc agreement, and the last UK parlimentary elections. In each case, the polls were way off, and the UK votes have parallels to this election.

Author:  Nas [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:13 pm ]
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I would vote for Trump over Johnson and I think Trump is a dangerous psychopath.

Author:  denisdman [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:17 pm ]
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Bad choices all around. I am simply voting for the candidate that aligns closest to my political beliefs. I can't vote for an anti trade candidate nor I can support somone who is so casual with our alliances like Taiwan and NATO.

I've got a big conference downtown next week, so sadly, I can't enjoy much election night coverage. It is a sure bet that America loses regardless of the outcome.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:37 pm ]
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denisdman wrote:
Bad choices all around. I am simply voting for the candidate that aligns closest to my political beliefs. I can't vote for an anti trade candidate nor I can support somone who is so casual with our alliances like Taiwan and NATO.

I've got a big conference downtown next week, so sadly, I can't enjoy much election night coverage. It is a sure bet that America loses regardless of the outcome.


Casual wiht our allies?
The current administration,of which Clinton was part of like it or not, fucked up one of our longest allies period. An ally we basically got involved in WW2 over. An ally who fought side by side with up in 3 fucking wars and never complained until now.

Author:  Brick [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:42 pm ]
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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I was rooting for Hillary until she went negative in this campaign.


Is that a vote for Trump?

I'll keep you in suspense.

Author:  denisdman [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:43 pm ]
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chaspoppcap wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Bad choices all around. I am simply voting for the candidate that aligns closest to my political beliefs. I can't vote for an anti trade candidate nor I can support somone who is so casual with our alliances like Taiwan and NATO.

I've got a big conference downtown next week, so sadly, I can't enjoy much election night coverage. It is a sure bet that America loses regardless of the outcome.


Casual wiht our allies?
The current administration,of which Clinton was part of like it or not, fucked up one of our longest allies period. An ally we basically got involved in WW2 over. An ally who fought side by side with up in 3 fucking wars and never complained until now.



Obama is not running. Clinton was on the interventionist side of the current administration's policy position.

Trump has made weak statements about our commitment to NATO, South Korea and Japan. Any objective observer would feel safer with Clinton on international military matters. Trump and nukes, yikes.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:50 pm ]
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Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:13 pm ]
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Stein

Author:  jimmypasta [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:16 pm ]
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Write-in for Chuck Norris.

Author:  Nas [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:23 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:27 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

You can protest vote anywhere. I'd vote for Gary Johnson regardless of which state I lived in. Trump and Clinton are morally reprehensible choices.

Author:  Nas [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:29 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

You can protest vote anywhere. I'd vote for Gary Johnson regardless of which state I lived in. Trump and Clinton are morally reprehensible choices.


That's just stupid. Johnson is a complete fucking idiot and his stupidity makes him unfit to be dog catcher.

Author:  conns7901 [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:30 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.


You can protest vote in about 40 of the 50 states.

Author:  Nas [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:35 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.


You can protest vote in about 40 of the 50 states.


True

Author:  Baby McNown [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:41 pm ]
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chaspoppcap wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Bad choices all around. I am simply voting for the candidate that aligns closest to my political beliefs. I can't vote for an anti trade candidate nor I can support somone who is so casual with our alliances like Taiwan and NATO.

I've got a big conference downtown next week, so sadly, I can't enjoy much election night coverage. It is a sure bet that America loses regardless of the outcome.


Casual wiht our allies?
The current administration,of which Clinton was part of like it or not, fucked up one of our longest allies period. An ally we basically got involved in WW2 over. An ally who fought side by side with up in 3 fucking wars and never complained until now.

The Brits seem to like us just fine Chas.

Author:  long time guy [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:46 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

You can protest vote anywhere. I'd vote for Gary Johnson regardless of which state I lived in. Trump and Clinton are morally reprehensible choices.


That's just stupid. Johnson is a complete fucking idiot and his stupidity makes him unfit to be dog catcher.



His own "running" mate appears to be running from him. When has that ever happened?

Author:  FavreFan [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:52 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

You can protest vote anywhere. I'd vote for Gary Johnson regardless of which state I lived in. Trump and Clinton are morally reprehensible choices.


That's just stupid. Johnson is a complete fucking idiot and his stupidity makes him unfit to be dog catcher.

You could say the same thing about Trump except Johnson isn't an asshole and sexual predator, and you'd rather vote for Trump. Talk about fucking stupid.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:54 pm ]
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I'm gonna throw a vote to Jill Stein even though I don't agree with her on everything. I don't agree with Hillary on everything, either, but Jill Stein doesn't have an inner circle of fuckheads.

Author:  Nas [ Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:13 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

You can protest vote anywhere. I'd vote for Gary Johnson regardless of which state I lived in. Trump and Clinton are morally reprehensible choices.


That's just stupid. Johnson is a complete fucking idiot and his stupidity makes him unfit to be dog catcher.

You could say the same thing about Trump except Johnson isn't an asshole and sexual predator, and you'd rather vote for Trump. Talk about fucking stupid.


That's fair

Author:  Brick [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:47 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

You can protest vote anywhere. I'd vote for Gary Johnson regardless of which state I lived in. Trump and Clinton are morally reprehensible choices.
This is where I am now.

The other issue is that Democrats are already setting it up that if Hillary wins by a good amount to use it as some sort of political mandate by the people that we want what her and the Democrats are selling when clearly she won mostly because she is "Not Trump".

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:56 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Protest vote. Anything else is an endorsement of the two party system and both candidates it gave us.


You can protest vote in Illinois.

You can protest vote anywhere. I'd vote for Gary Johnson regardless of which state I lived in. Trump and Clinton are morally reprehensible choices.
This is where I am now.

The other issue is that Democrats are already setting it up that if Hillary wins by a good amount to use it as some sort of political mandate by the people that we want what her and the Democrats are selling when clearly she won mostly because she is "Not Trump".



Trump blewout the Republican field. Being not the field appeared to work quite well for him until it didnt. She would have beaten anyone in the Republican field too.

Author:  Hockey Gay [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:59 am ]
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I don't vote but I'm hoping Trump wins.

He's more entertaining and democrats are annoying pussies.

Author:  Brick [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:59 am ]
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long time guy wrote:
Trump blewout the Republican field. Being not the field appeared to work quite well for him until it didnt. She would have beaten anyone in the Republican field too.
She is struggling to beat the worst Republican candidate I've ever seen. Virtually every one of her political ads right now is negative against Trump. It's at least 10 to 1 in terms of "Trump is bad" vs. "Clinton is good".

But, if what you say is true, and she would beat any Repbulican because that many people like her, then that is all the more reason for a protest vote against both of them. Thanks ltg!

Author:  long time guy [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:08 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Trump blewout the Republican field. Being not the field appeared to work quite well for him until it didnt. She would have beaten anyone in the Republican field too.
She is struggling to beat the worst Republican candidate I've ever seen. Virtually every one of her political ads right now is negative against Trump. It's at least 10 to 1 in terms of "Trump is bad" vs. "Clinton is good".

But, if what you say is true, and she would beat any Repbulican because that many people like her, then that is all the more reason for a protest vote against both of them. Thanks ltg!



She simply successfully define who Donald Trump happens to be. That is strategy. People know who Hillary Clinton is if they don't then they haven't really paid attention to politics over the past 25 years.

If they wanted a better candidate they should have voted for one during the Primaries. They only had what 16 others to choose from?

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