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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Not sure how Chicago works exactly but I read this about LA and Boston this morning which said basically the same thing. The mechanism seems to be that the local cops are not allowed to ask suspected illegals (read hispanics) to show proof of citizenship if they come into contact with them. There also is some part of not cooperating with border or homeland authorities. For some people this is a good thing. For others while trying to understand the humane arguments they do not like blatant disregard for the law. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
A misdemeanor I can agree with not deportation, any felony should be automatic deportation on any illegal immigrant.. If Chicago or LA or Boston doesn't follow through..cut off the tap from the federal titty, they will fall in line quick. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? have there been instances of the Fed coming into any of these cities and doing raids for illegal immigrants ? |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Bagels wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? have there been instances of the Fed coming into any of these cities and doing raids for illegal immigrants ? No idea, but if they do it will be TREMENDOUS! |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? Well I guess that's my point . How much leeway do states or cities get in deciding what laws they're going to enforce without the Fed saying , No, you WILL enforce this one. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
badrogue17 wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? Well I guess that's my point . How much leeway do states or cities get in deciding what laws they're going to enforce without the Fed saying , No, you WILL enforce this one. I am not really sure. The feds can pressure whatever they want though. Remember back to when they wanted to initially get every state to not have a speed limit higher than 55. The feds simply threatened to withhold highway funds. It took a little longer for some states but they relented. This happens all the time. |
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| Author: | formerlyknownas [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Bagels wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? have there been instances of the Fed coming into any of these cities and doing raids for illegal immigrants ? Not sure, but there are deportations all the time. Obviously, Obama deported millions, but I would never hear of this if it weren't for the occasional student comment ("My mother was deported") and the fact that students I know travel to the deportation center once a month to pray for those being deported on that day. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
badrogue17 wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? Well I guess that's my point . How much leeway do states or cities get in deciding what laws they're going to enforce without the Fed saying , No, you WILL enforce this one. It is a good question. I think when it comes to basic human rights, maybe it is different. I think if people are contributing and are illegal, maybe leave them alone. This might be a Red vs Blue thing, and maybe with the Fed being Red, and a city like Chicago Blue something will happen? |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
After Chas sleeps off his hangover, he will explain this to you. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
My understanding is that sanctuary cities do not allow law enforcement officials to turn over illegal immigrants to the Feds. Most places have a mechanism for informing ICE when illegal immigrants are arrested. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
pittmike wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? Well I guess that's my point . How much leeway do states or cities get in deciding what laws they're going to enforce without the Fed saying , No, you WILL enforce this one. I am not really sure. The feds can pressure whatever they want though. Remember back to when they wanted to initially get every state to not have a speed limit higher than 55. The feds simply threatened to withhold highway funds. It took a little longer for some states but they relented. This happens all the time. With hold the federal funds to police departments will absolutely get cops to follow orders. http://www.latimes.com/#nt=mastheadnavbar |
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| Author: | formerlyknownas [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? Well I guess that's my point . How much leeway do states or cities get in deciding what laws they're going to enforce without the Fed saying , No, you WILL enforce this one. It is a good question. I think when it comes to basic human rights, maybe it is different. I think if people are contributing and are illegal, maybe leave them alone. This might be a Red vs Blue thing, and maybe with the Fed being Red, and a city like Chicago Blue something will happen? On the other hand, an illegal crashed into my car last summer. He didn't have insurance, naturally, so I had to pay ($1700) or have my rates skyrocket. If they stay, they gotta play by the rules. Fix it so they can. Otherwise, GTFO. I have sympathy for them--to a point. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
formerlyknownas wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? Well I guess that's my point . How much leeway do states or cities get in deciding what laws they're going to enforce without the Fed saying , No, you WILL enforce this one. It is a good question. I think when it comes to basic human rights, maybe it is different. I think if people are contributing and are illegal, maybe leave them alone. This might be a Red vs Blue thing, and maybe with the Fed being Red, and a city like Chicago Blue something will happen? On the other hand, an illegal crashed into my car last summer. He didn't have insurance, naturally, so I had to pay ($1700) or have my rates skyrocket. If they stay, they gotta play by the rules. Fix it so they can. Otherwise, GTFO. I have sympathy for them--to a point. I agree. I can not say I am literate with citizenship costs and the hoops to jump through. Perhaps make that easier. |
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| Author: | America [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
The federal government could easily step in and demand Chicago and CPD enforce this law. When Marty Walsh and Rahm Emanuel say this shit they are just making a stand against Trump in the media because it will go over well with their constituents. The past two administrations have not been keen on making a big issue of illegal immigration so cities like Chicago, LA etc. have gotten away with this without much resistance. That has changed dramatically, Trump campaigned hard on the issue and won. The question is whether Trump will make these mayors kiss the ring once in office, or if he'll keep up this charade of appearing presidential when it comes to dealing with them. I also hit by illegals driving somebody elses car (ofc no insurance). Out $1000 deductible plus my rates skyrocketed...cops even told me at the scene I was in for a nightmare. |
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| Author: | formerlyknownas [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Cashman wrote: formerlyknownas wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: Cashman wrote: badrogue17 wrote: I guess he did this last night but I need the great minds plus Nas of the CFMB to educate me on what that exactly means. Is it that we will not deport illegal immigrants if they're caught breaking another law? Do we ignore that they're here illegally ? How do cities get away with not enforcing federal law? Thanks in advance fer educatin' me. Federal law says Mary Jane is illegal, yet States passed laws to make it legal. Why is this different? Well I guess that's my point . How much leeway do states or cities get in deciding what laws they're going to enforce without the Fed saying , No, you WILL enforce this one. It is a good question. I think when it comes to basic human rights, maybe it is different. I think if people are contributing and are illegal, maybe leave them alone. This might be a Red vs Blue thing, and maybe with the Fed being Red, and a city like Chicago Blue something will happen? On the other hand, an illegal crashed into my car last summer. He didn't have insurance, naturally, so I had to pay ($1700) or have my rates skyrocket. If they stay, they gotta play by the rules. Fix it so they can. Otherwise, GTFO. I have sympathy for them--to a point. I agree. I can not say I am literate with citizenship costs and the hoops to jump through. Perhaps make that easier. I'd be fine with the US giving amnesty to every non-criminal undocumented person if we stopped immigration. Too many people as it is, and it is killing the environment. We need fewer people everywhere. Pretty soon Sycamore is gonna be a suburb. I'd bet a lot of undocumented people want to play by the rules, but can't.... |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
formerlyknownas wrote: I'd be fine with the US giving amnesty to every non-criminal undocumented person if we stopped immigration. Too many people as it is, and it is killing the environment. We need fewer people everywhere. Pretty soon Sycamore is gonna be a suburb. I'd bet a lot of undocumented people want to play by the rules, but can't.... Unleash Genghis Khannnnnnnnnn! |
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| Author: | formerlyknownas [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rahm reaffirms Chicago as a sanctuary city |
Cashman wrote: formerlyknownas wrote: I'd be fine with the US giving amnesty to every non-criminal undocumented person if we stopped immigration. Too many people as it is, and it is killing the environment. We need fewer people everywhere. Pretty soon Sycamore is gonna be a suburb. I'd bet a lot of undocumented people want to play by the rules, but can't.... Unleash Genghis Khannnnnnnnnn! Long as he has papers... |
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