I identify with a lot of libertarian viewpoints but I would never call myself a libertarian because I understand that the libertarian philosophy, if truly implemented in some practical manner, would obviously result in the richest/strongest doing whatever the fuck they wanted.

conducting a scientific poll here.

I tend conservative, but note, I have never voted for a republican for national office.

I'm more liberal than conservative but I dislike liberals more.

define them however you want. JORR and I thought the bored was liberal. NAS said no, it is conservative and he had the numbers to back it up but declined.

I'm more liberal than conservative but I dislike liberals more.

I'm more liberal than conservative but I dislike liberals more.

If you are hell bent on compartmentalizing people, then it is probably a good idea to define the compartments.

Even if you are just doing a "scientific" poll.

This is exactly how I feel. It seems counter-intuitive but I don't think it is.

Yeah, I'd have to agree. The definitions of Liberal and Conservative are constantly changing. The definition of a Classical Liberal is someone who values individual rights, free markets, and limited government, but I don't think most would say that is the modern-day definition.

It's so difficult to encapsulate one's beliefs on the Left-Right continuum, particularly nowadays. I would venture a guess that most would call me Liberal, but I don't think I am (though it doesn't bother me either way).

I also believe that it depends on a few different contexts. If we were starting America over again, I would absolutely be a Libertarian (a true Libertarian, not Scorehead Libertarian). I would love to see local politics be the main driver of how an area is politically, not a national government with a "one size fits all" view. I would also like to see a small military, free markets without liability protection for corporations, and social policies that allow people to do pretty much anything as long as they're not infringing on the rights of others.

However, from a practical perspective, that ship has sailed. If we tried to immediately transition to a true Libertarian-style government, there would be too much short-term pain to maintain public approval. Therefore, in the short-term, I don't think I would fall in either bucket because it is completely dependent on the current situation. Health care is a good example. I am in favor of single payer (which is certainly not a Libertarian belief) because I think it's the only way to fix the current system we have (which is a complete cluster) while trying to maintain some semblance of both equality and efficiency.

In conclusion, I am neither, IMO.

Yeah, I'd have to agree. The definitions of Liberal and Conservative are constantly changing. The definition of a Classical Liberal is someone who values individual rights, free markets, and limited government, but I don't think most would say that is the modern-day definition.

When I think JORR, I immediately think "feminine."

When you put forth conservative ideas, you tend to feel the heat from left leaning folks. Nas is getting it from the other side because he has been highly critical of all things Trump. So he is getting the heat from opposing views.

I always felt the board had a liberal bent, but it is probably better to state that the board in general is more liberal than me. Meaning plenty of right of center guys, but they're still largely left of me.

lots of suburban white males who never set foot in urban areas on this board. That is not a liberal demographic

lots of suburban white males who never set foot in urban areas on this board. That is not a liberal demographic

You're making some assumptions there.

Sauganash Tough

New mult. Why am I laughing at this?

Some bad ones too. You're more liberal than JORR by a mile.