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Just read about this in USA Today. The article claimed the shooter shouted, "God is great!" :lol:

Of course, we all know that he most certainly did not shout that. It is a translation of what he actually shouted. To what end such a translation is appropriate, I'm not sure. Great unbiased reporting!

The actual video of the shooting was like something out of a movie. Everything there to see.

Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

The actual video of the shooting was like something out of a movie. Everything there to see.

Yeah, very surreal. In that gallery with white walls and art. The still photos looked posed. It was like something out of a Tarantino film.

Totally ignorant question:

What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none.

US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary.

Hatchetman wrote:

US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary.

Perhaps, but I'm not sure which one presents the potential for greater long-term serious damage in the world ... and of course we won't know for sure for years if not decades.

I haven't seen the full vid ... does it show the Russian cat getting plugged or does it only start with pointy-finger-Turkman giving his planned oration?

Totally ignorant question:

What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none.

Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Totally ignorant question:

What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none.

I'm sure people thought that about Franz Ferdinand too though. Who was he? Some fuckin' archduke? Big deal. The next thing you know the world is at war.

How about if the Russians get some crazy idea that the U.S. is behind it in retaliation for "hacking the election"? Trump isn't the only one who needs to be careful about his words.

erdogan and putin are united in their hatred of the west.

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:

Totally ignorant question:

What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none.

Turkey was considered a stable country, and is a US ally. There was a coup attempt a few months ago. If Russia turns it's cyber attacks on Turky and starts supporting the Turkish opposition, who knows what the Middle East will look like in a few months.

erdogan and putin are united in their hatred of the west.

The actual video of the shooting was like something out of a movie. Everything there to see.

US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary.

Hatchetman wrote:

US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary.

I'm glad Obama is leaving in a month so we can get back to loving America.

Nas wrote:

Hatchetman wrote:

US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary.

I'm glad Obama is leaving in a month so we can get back to loving America.

The precedents of executive overreach is really going to come back to haunt this country. With the wild card Trump in charge, you've upset the balance of power between Congress, the states, and the Executive branch. It'd been moving that way for years as Bush was pretty expansive in his view of Prerogative, but Obama has taken it up several notches. The courts have stopped him in many places, so that may prevent Trump from going too far.

Author:	WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:20 pm ]
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Another Allah inspired shooting: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ing-attack

Author:	JORR [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:28 pm ]
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When will Turkey have sensible gun control?????

Author:	Darkside [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:33 pm ]
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Didn't Obama vow retaliation for the interference in the election?

Author:	WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:54 pm ]
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And not to be outdone, another guy just drove a truck through the Christmas Market in Berlin: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /95620986/

Author:	JORR [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:54 am ]
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Just read about this in USA Today. The article claimed the shooter shouted, "God is great!" Of course, we all know that he most certainly did not shout that. It is a translation of what he actually shouted. To what end such a translation is appropriate, I'm not sure. Great unbiased reporting!

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Author:	Brick [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:57 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Just read about this in USA Today. The article claimed the shooter shouted, "God is great!" Of course, we all know that he most certainly did not shout that. It is a translation of what he actually shouted. To what end such a translation is appropriate, I'm not sure. Great unbiased reporting! God is Great. Good is good. Let us thank him for this food. 6 year old me was just like sini!

Author:	Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:22 am ]
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The actual video of the shooting was like something out of a movie. Everything there to see.

Author:	JORR [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:26 am ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: The actual video of the shooting was like something out of a movie. Everything there to see. Yeah, very surreal. In that gallery with white walls and art. The still photos looked posed. It was like something out of a Tarantino film.

Author:	denisdman [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:30 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: The actual video of the shooting was like something out of a movie. Everything there to see. Yeah, very surreal. In that gallery with white walls and art. The still photos looked posed. It was like something out of a Tarantino film. The guys at work were saying Bond, but yeah Tartantino is probably a better analogy.

Author:	KDdidit [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:26 pm ]
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Whoever the photographer was should have every journalism award locked up.

Author:	JORR [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:21 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Totally ignorant question: What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none. I'm sure people thought that about Franz Ferdinand too though. Who was he? Some fuckin' archduke? Big deal. The next thing you know the world is at war. How about if the Russians get some crazy idea that the U.S. is behind it in retaliation for "hacking the election"? Trump isn't the only one who needs to be careful about his words.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:25 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Totally ignorant question: What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none. You're correct.

Author:	Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:25 pm ]
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US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:35 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote: US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary. Perhaps, but I'm not sure which one presents the potential for greater long-term serious damage in the world ... and of course we won't know for sure for years if not decades. I haven't seen the full vid ... does it show the Russian cat getting plugged or does it only start with pointy-finger-Turkman giving his planned oration?

Author:	JORR [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:57 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote: erdogan and putin are united in their hatred of the west. Don't you consider Russian "the West"? I guess it's ambiguous. Sort of like, is England part of Europe? or is Russia part of Europe? It depends on who you ask. I think we can agree that Russia is part of what we might call the "civilized world", where there is at least a base belief in science over religion. (Although I'm sure someone might suggest that in that case, Mississippi isn't part of the civilized world.) The U.S. and Russia do have many clear common interests regardless of how one might feel about Vladimir Putin or Donald Trump.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:18 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Video here, via CNN: http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2016/12/19/russian-ambassador-turkey-assassinated-graphic-ath.cnn We need to get together as a country to nail down what 'graphic' should actually mean. They showed worse stuff on 24 for crying out loud. At least 1/3 of that was the guy really laying into the rigmarole speech about it being disturbing and graphic ... well, to some maybe. What really caught my eye was the fact that the poor bastard that was on the business end ended up croaking on the floor with his tie apparently doing a half-Dilbert. Also, if you didn't know it already, then from that video you learned that an art gallery or other open space lacking soft surfaces is a terrible choice, acoustically speaking, to scream your manifesto at.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:13 am ]
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The Democrats built a system designed to foil the legislatures they'd stop bothering to win, then lost the only office they still cared about. They did it to themselves.

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Author:	Kirkwood [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:38 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote: Hatchetman wrote: US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary. Perhaps, but I'm not sure which one presents the potential for greater long-term serious damage in the world ... and of course we won't know for sure for years if not decades. I haven't seen the full vid ... does it show the Russian cat getting plugged or does it only start with pointy-finger-Turkman giving his planned oration? Everything. He is talking at the lectern (Thanks Bernstein!), hear the pop! pop! and then you see him fall. The shooter then walks into the picture yelling and waving his gun. It's not very graphic but it's sad to watch.

Author:	KDdidit [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:59 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Totally ignorant question: What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none.

Author:	WaitingforRuffcorn [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:19 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Totally ignorant question: What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none. I'm sure people thought that about Franz Ferdinand too though. Who was he? Some fuckin' archduke? Big deal. The next thing you know the world is at war. How about if the Russians get some crazy idea that the U.S. is behind it in retaliation for "hacking the election"? Trump isn't the only one who needs to be careful about his words. Turkey was considered a stable country, and is a US ally. There was a coup attempt a few months ago. If Russia turns it's cyber attacks on Turky and starts supporting the Turkish opposition, who knows what the Middle East will look like in a few months.

Author:	Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:32 pm ]
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erdogan and putin are united in their hatred of the west.

Author:	Don Tiny [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:00 pm ]
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Totally ignorant question: What impact will this have on the world as a whole? I'm feeling like next to none. I'm sure people thought that about Franz Ferdinand too though. Who was he? Some fuckin' archduke? Big deal. The next thing you know the world is at war. How about if the Russians get some crazy idea that the U.S. is behind it in retaliation for "hacking the election"? Trump isn't the only one who needs to be careful about his words. Turkey was considered a stable country, and is a US ally. There was a coup attempt a few months ago. If Russia turns it's cyber attacks on Turky and starts supporting the Turkish opposition, who knows what the Middle East will look like in a few months. I thought there was a more than passing theory that the whole 'coup' thing was pretty much ginned-up ... not sure what the real story is on that. Plus that pudwhack seems to be their Donald Trump with the stupid things he's said iirc, not the least of which saying he'd seize the American nukes or something about like that.

Author:	Hatchetman [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:28 pm ]
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By west I am referring to the democratic/ human rights aspects not their literary and ballet works of the 1800s. They are both authoritarian dictators.

Author:	Kirkwood [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:44 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote: erdogan and putin are united in their hatred of the west. duterte guy in phillipines isn't a fan of US either

Author:	IkeSouth [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:45 pm ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: The actual video of the shooting was like something out of a movie. Everything there to see. i dont think we see that video if it was the american ambassador. but anything that makes russia look weak is a good thing, even if the help comes from our enemy. it was a win win for us.

Author:	Nas [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:46 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote: US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary. I'm glad Obama is leaving in a month so we can get back to loving America.

Author:	denisdman [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:04 pm ]
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Nas wrote: Hatchetman wrote: US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary. I'm glad Obama is leaving in a month so we can get back to loving America. The precedents of executive overreach is really going to come back to haunt this country. With the wild card Trump in charge, you've upset the balance of power between Congress, the states, and the Executive branch. It'd been moving that way for years as Bush was pretty expansive in his view of Prerogative, but Obama has taken it up several notches. The courts have stopped him in many places, so that may prevent Trump from going too far.

Author:	pittmike [ Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:49 am ]
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denisdman wrote: Nas wrote: Hatchetman wrote: US "citizens" attempting to de-legitimize the US electoral process, constitution, and the president is a hell of a lot more scary. I'm glad Obama is leaving in a month so we can get back to loving America. The precedents of executive overreach is really going to come back to haunt this country. With the wild card Trump in charge, you've upset the balance of power between Congress, the states, and the Executive branch. It'd been moving that way for years as Bush was pretty expansive in his view of Prerogative, but Obama has taken it up several notches. The courts have stopped him in many places, so that may prevent Trump from going too far. Agreed.