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 Post subject: Legislative Record
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Well, the numbers are in on Obama's legislative record as measured by number of laws passed. It is less the Washington Times claims than one term presidents Carter and HW Bush. Some (like me) think this is fine. Basically, in all honesty, I had hoped he could not radically change anything. Some will think is is a travesty. The article seems to share the blame between Obama and congress. It does correctly point out he had a Dem congress for the first two years.

Anyway read if you want and decide for yourself.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... gress-leg/

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Hope. Change.

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Darkside wrote:
Hope. Change.

Did you get either?


You just voted for a guy who ran on change. He was going to drain the swamp. It looks like the swamp just got deeper and murkier.

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Chus wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Hope. Change.

Did you get either?


You just voted for a guy who ran on change. He was going to drain the swamp. It looks like the swamp just got deeper and murkier.


:lol: Wow. Measure performance by completed eight years versus hasn't been sworn in yet. You have to be bored today.

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Darkside wrote:
Hope. Change.

Did you get either?


Yes.

Didn't get both.

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pittmike wrote:

:lol: Wow. Measure performance by completed eight years versus hasn't been sworn in yet.


So, we can't judge his appointees on their past actions? They are just going to do things differently now, huh?

Holy shit, is it getting deep in here.


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You have to be bored today.


You lose when you go to places like this. Defend your point without making it about me. If you can. You have admitted several times that you know nothing about the people you defend. Good luck.

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Chus wrote:
pittmike wrote:

:lol: Wow. Measure performance by completed eight years versus hasn't been sworn in yet.


So, we can't judge his appointees on their past actions? They are just going to do things differently now, huh?

Holy shit, is it getting deep in here.


pittmike wrote:
You have to be bored today.


You lose when you go to places like this. Defend your point without making it about me. If you can. You have admitted several times that you
know nothing about the people you defend. Good luck.


You did the same by making it about me and claiming I voted for Gary Johnson. I did not ever say this morning she shouldn't be judged by her past actions. In fact I literally wrote the words in English "I am not defending her". I said about her I guess but especially in general asking a nominee to a vast bureaucracy about their personal belief on one particular litmus test subject was a waste of time.

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pittmike wrote:
Chus wrote:
pittmike wrote:

:lol: Wow. Measure performance by completed eight years versus hasn't been sworn in yet.


So, we can't judge his appointees on their past actions? They are just going to do things differently now, huh?

Holy shit, is it getting deep in here.


pittmike wrote:
You have to be bored today.


You lose when you go to places like this. Defend your point without making it about me. If you can. You have admitted several times that you
know nothing about the people you defend. Good luck.


You did the same by making it about me and claiming I voted for Gary Johnson. I did not ever say this morning she shouldn't be judged by her past actions. In fact I literally wrote the words in English "I am not defending her". I said about her I guess but especially in general asking a nominee to a vast bureaucracy about their personal belief on one particular litmus test subject was a waste of time.


:lol:

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Hope. Change.

Did you get either?


Yes.

Didn't get both.
You can always get hope.

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 Post subject: Re: Legislative Record
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:21 pm 
Chus wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Hope. Change.

Did you get either?


You just voted for a guy who ran on change. He was going to drain the swamp. It looks like the swamp just got deeper and murkier.

No. It's all ok this time because he's a white republican.
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pittmike wrote:
It does correctly point out he had a Dem congress for the first two years.



He lost the Senate for all practical purposes upon the death of Kennedy and Lieberman feeling especially needy, then butthurt. Of course that weasely shit is being reported to work/shill for Trump now.

But lets not have the latter obscure your attempt at a sleight of hand. :)

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Regular Reader wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It does correctly point out he had a Dem congress for the first two years.



He lost the Senate for all practical purposes upon the death of Kennedy and Lieberman feeling especially needy, then butthurt. Of course that weasely shit is being reported to work/shill for Trump now.

But lets not have the latter obscure your attempt at a sleight of hand. :)



He had enough of both houses to get the ACA right?

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Regular Reader wrote:
pittmike wrote:
It does correctly point out he had a Dem congress for the first two years.



He lost the Senate for all practical purposes upon the death of Kennedy and Lieberman feeling especially needy, then butthurt. Of course that weasely shit is being reported to work/shill for Trump now.

But lets not have the latter obscure your attempt at a sleight of hand. :)



He had enough of both houses to get the ACA right?

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pittmike wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
It does correctly point out he had a Dem congress for the first two years.



He lost the Senate for all practical purposes upon the death of Kennedy and Lieberman feeling especially needy, then butthurt. Of course that weasely shit is being reported to work/shill for Trump now.

But lets not have the latter obscure your attempt at a sleight of hand. :)



He had enough of both houses to get the ACA right?


Not exactly. He didn't have 60 people to vote for it in the Senate.

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Is that why the reconciliation stuff then? Was a long time ago.

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Is that why the reconciliation stuff then? Was a long time ago.


Yep. They didn't have the votes.

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Is that why the reconciliation stuff then? Was a long time ago.

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Baby McNown wrote:
Chus wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Hope. Change.

Did you get either?


You just voted for a guy who ran on change. He was going to drain the swamp. It looks like the swamp just got deeper and murkier.

No. It's all ok this time because he's a white republican.

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Darkside wrote:
Hope. Change.

Did you get either?

Yes and yes.
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