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Author: | JORR [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
I know all you Hillarettes are so hysterical over a few potential terrorists getting a little extra scrutiny at the airport that you are missing the worst of Trump: http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/technol ... -internet/ Donald Trump has called for a shutdown of the Internet in certain areas to stop the spread of terror. In a speech at the U.S.S. Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Monday, Trump referenced the use by ISIS of social media as a recruitment tool. He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet. "We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people." Some totalitarian governments do it The notion that the Internet could be shut off is not completely off base. North Korea does it. Some countries have been known to shut off Internet service to their citizens in times of crisis. Egypt restricted the Internet during the 2011 Arab Spring uprising. Other countries block certain Internet services and sites. China is the most famous example, forbidding most social networking sites as well as websites that deal with subjects the government doesn't want its citizens to know about. Most Western countries, including the United States, regulate the Internet very loosely. There are few restrictions about what American citizens can do and say on the Internet. Child pornography is one example of forbidden Internet activity in the United States -- Google is barred from linking to it, and websites cannot display images of it. Why the United States can't do it But a full-on "closing up" of the Internet "in certain areas" would be an impossible task. There are so many players with so much redundancy built into the system, that the Internet is not just something that can be turned off with a wave of a magic wand. Virtually every part in the United States has multiple Internet service provider options. Comcast, (CMCSA) Time Warner Cable (TWC) and the other major broadband companies don't overlap much. But Verizon (VZ, Tech30), AT&T (T, Tech30), Sprint (S) and T-Mobile (TMUS) all provide the same service to roughly the same areas. Satellite companies also provide Internet to most parts of the country. Removing Internet service in certain areas of the U.S. would require those companies to turn off their cell towers and fiber networks, and to restrict satellite access to people living in those regions. America can't shut off the Internet overseas either Shutting down Internet service in foreign countries could be even more difficult. Despite a common belief to the contrary, the United States does not control the global Internet. Servers on foreign soil serve up the Web and other Internet services to people living abroad. So foreign Internet infrastructure would need to be disrupted or shut down to turn off service in certain areas -- already a tricky task made even harder if the countries and companies controlling those servers and cell towers abroad don't cooperate. Whatever, Donald Trump wouldn't want the Internet shut off anyway. Then he couldn't tweet. Very frightening. But this is the funniest part: "He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet." Is that the same Bill Gates who famously underestimated the power of the Internet while focusing on Zune? I picture Trump telling Bannon, "Jobs is dead, we better call Gates!" |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Shouldn't he be talking to Al Gore? |
Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Shouldn't he be talking to Al Gore? ![]() |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Assuming in a shutdown you could still get briebart.com? |
Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
We're gonna exit this presidency with Trump somehow owning the internet and all public utilities. |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
I said in one of the MANY other threads that President Trump issued the Muslim Ban in a case of misdirection. Eveyone got up in arms about the ban (and rightly so) and ignored the far more dangerous NSC EO. |
Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Caller Bob wrote: Assuming in a shutdown you could still get briebart.com? That and Trump.com. That's it. |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
No way he can fucking do this . I have U-verse |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Terry's Peeps wrote: I said in one of the MANY other threads that President Trump issued the Muslim Ban in a case of misdirection. Eveyone got up in arms about the ban (and rightly so) and ignored the far more dangerous NSC EO. That, and he knew the EO would get shot down in the courts. But should a attack happen in the US in the next year or so, he's got back all the leverage. He's banking on his entire EO getting nuked by the courts. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
That article is from December 2015, but it has been gaining some steam over the past week. I'm sure Donald will get to it after the other 75 executive orders currently in the queue. |
Author: | billypootons [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Just make sure the legal adult entertainment websites remain operational. |
Author: | leashyourkids [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
We can walk and chew gum, you old bastard. You probably remember those days. If not, IMU can fill you in. |
Author: | chaspoppcap [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Okay,this is only slightly less insane than the church of the flying spaghetti monster on the surface. We do block parts of the internet now,ie p2p stuff. It a blanket government control/censorship of the internet,no. |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
chaspoppcap wrote: Okay,this is only slightly less insane than the church of the flying spaghetti monster on the surface. We do block parts of the internet now,ie p2p stuff. It a blanket government control/censorship of the internet,no. Define "we" here? |
Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Shouldn't he be talking to Al Gore? Maybe Mike North knows. |
Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
And some thought I was being hyperbolic about Cheetolini back in November. The sociopath's got us all in a shell game and Bannon's collecting |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Realistically, I honestly see a bipartisan vote on impeachment within two years here. Most liberals(myself included) will get on their hands and knees and apologize to the GOP for giving the likes of McCain, Romney, Cruz, Santorum's of the world shit for pretty mundane social issues for the past decade. Would I trade the Roe vs Wade decision for a non-mad man in the White House? You bet. I'd sell out those femninist Caller Bobs in a second. |
Author: | America [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Caller Bob wrote: Realistically, I honestly see a bipartisan vote on impeachment within two years here. Most liberals(myself included) will get on their hands and knees and apologize to the GOP for giving the likes of McCain, Romney, Cruz, Santorum's of the world shit for pretty mundane social issues for the past decade. Would I trade the Roe vs Wade decision for a non-mad man in the White House? You bet. I'd sell out those femninist Caller Bobs in a second. God liberals are such fucking burritos. |
Author: | 312player [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I know all you Hillarettes are so hysterical over a few potential terrorists getting a little extra scrutiny at the airport that you are missing the worst of Trump: http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/technol ... -internet/ Donald Trump has called for a shutdown of the Internet in certain areas to stop the spread of terror. In a speech at the U.S.S. Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Monday, Trump referenced the use by ISIS of social media as a recruitment tool. He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet. "We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people." Some totalitarian governments do it The notion that the Internet could be shut off is not completely off base. North Korea does it. Some countries have been known to shut off Internet service to their citizens in times of crisis. Egypt restricted the Internet during the 2011 Arab Spring uprising. Other countries block certain Internet services and sites. China is the most famous example, forbidding most social networking sites as well as websites that deal with subjects the government doesn't want its citizens to know about. Most Western countries, including the United States, regulate the Internet very loosely. There are few restrictions about what American citizens can do and say on the Internet. Child pornography is one example of forbidden Internet activity in the United States -- Google is barred from linking to it, and websites cannot display images of it. Why the United States can't do it But a full-on "closing up" of the Internet "in certain areas" would be an impossible task. There are so many players with so much redundancy built into the system, that the Internet is not just something that can be turned off with a wave of a magic wand. Virtually every part in the United States has multiple Internet service provider options. Comcast, (CMCSA) Time Warner Cable (TWC) and the other major broadband companies don't overlap much. But Verizon (VZ, Tech30), AT&T (T, Tech30), Sprint (S) and T-Mobile (TMUS) all provide the same service to roughly the same areas. Satellite companies also provide Internet to most parts of the country. Removing Internet service in certain areas of the U.S. would require those companies to turn off their cell towers and fiber networks, and to restrict satellite access to people living in those regions. America can't shut off the Internet overseas either Shutting down Internet service in foreign countries could be even more difficult. Despite a common belief to the contrary, the United States does not control the global Internet. Servers on foreign soil serve up the Web and other Internet services to people living abroad. So foreign Internet infrastructure would need to be disrupted or shut down to turn off service in certain areas -- already a tricky task made even harder if the countries and companies controlling those servers and cell towers abroad don't cooperate. Whatever, Donald Trump wouldn't want the Internet shut off anyway. Then he couldn't tweet. Very frightening. But this is the funniest part: "He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet." Is that the same Bill Gates who famously underestimated the power of the Internet while focusing on Zune? I picture Trump telling Bannon, "Jobs is dead, we better call Gates!" Isn't he basically saying to ask Bill Gates to write a program that shuts down radical jihadi websites and message boards? If he is, I agree. We should. |
Author: | JORR [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
312player wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I know all you Hillarettes are so hysterical over a few potential terrorists getting a little extra scrutiny at the airport that you are missing the worst of Trump: http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/technol ... -internet/ Donald Trump has called for a shutdown of the Internet in certain areas to stop the spread of terror. In a speech at the U.S.S. Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Monday, Trump referenced the use by ISIS of social media as a recruitment tool. He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet. "We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people." Some totalitarian governments do it The notion that the Internet could be shut off is not completely off base. North Korea does it. Some countries have been known to shut off Internet service to their citizens in times of crisis. Egypt restricted the Internet during the 2011 Arab Spring uprising. Other countries block certain Internet services and sites. China is the most famous example, forbidding most social networking sites as well as websites that deal with subjects the government doesn't want its citizens to know about. Most Western countries, including the United States, regulate the Internet very loosely. There are few restrictions about what American citizens can do and say on the Internet. Child pornography is one example of forbidden Internet activity in the United States -- Google is barred from linking to it, and websites cannot display images of it. Why the United States can't do it But a full-on "closing up" of the Internet "in certain areas" would be an impossible task. There are so many players with so much redundancy built into the system, that the Internet is not just something that can be turned off with a wave of a magic wand. Virtually every part in the United States has multiple Internet service provider options. Comcast, (CMCSA) Time Warner Cable (TWC) and the other major broadband companies don't overlap much. But Verizon (VZ, Tech30), AT&T (T, Tech30), Sprint (S) and T-Mobile (TMUS) all provide the same service to roughly the same areas. Satellite companies also provide Internet to most parts of the country. Removing Internet service in certain areas of the U.S. would require those companies to turn off their cell towers and fiber networks, and to restrict satellite access to people living in those regions. America can't shut off the Internet overseas either Shutting down Internet service in foreign countries could be even more difficult. Despite a common belief to the contrary, the United States does not control the global Internet. Servers on foreign soil serve up the Web and other Internet services to people living abroad. So foreign Internet infrastructure would need to be disrupted or shut down to turn off service in certain areas -- already a tricky task made even harder if the countries and companies controlling those servers and cell towers abroad don't cooperate. Whatever, Donald Trump wouldn't want the Internet shut off anyway. Then he couldn't tweet. Very frightening. But this is the funniest part: "He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet." Is that the same Bill Gates who famously underestimated the power of the Internet while focusing on Zune? I picture Trump telling Bannon, "Jobs is dead, we better call Gates!" Isn't he basically saying to ask Bill Gates to write a program that shuts down radical jihadi websites and message boards? If he is, I agree. We should. Do you think Bill Gates is capable of that? Maybe he can steal a program from Amit Singhal. |
Author: | Caller Bob [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Quote: Bill Gates to write a program ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | 312player [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: 312player wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I know all you Hillarettes are so hysterical over a few potential terrorists getting a little extra scrutiny at the airport that you are missing the worst of Trump: http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/technol ... -internet/ Donald Trump has called for a shutdown of the Internet in certain areas to stop the spread of terror. In a speech at the U.S.S. Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Monday, Trump referenced the use by ISIS of social media as a recruitment tool. He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet. "We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people." Some totalitarian governments do it The notion that the Internet could be shut off is not completely off base. North Korea does it. Some countries have been known to shut off Internet service to their citizens in times of crisis. Egypt restricted the Internet during the 2011 Arab Spring uprising. Other countries block certain Internet services and sites. China is the most famous example, forbidding most social networking sites as well as websites that deal with subjects the government doesn't want its citizens to know about. Most Western countries, including the United States, regulate the Internet very loosely. There are few restrictions about what American citizens can do and say on the Internet. Child pornography is one example of forbidden Internet activity in the United States -- Google is barred from linking to it, and websites cannot display images of it. Why the United States can't do it But a full-on "closing up" of the Internet "in certain areas" would be an impossible task. There are so many players with so much redundancy built into the system, that the Internet is not just something that can be turned off with a wave of a magic wand. Virtually every part in the United States has multiple Internet service provider options. Comcast, (CMCSA) Time Warner Cable (TWC) and the other major broadband companies don't overlap much. But Verizon (VZ, Tech30), AT&T (T, Tech30), Sprint (S) and T-Mobile (TMUS) all provide the same service to roughly the same areas. Satellite companies also provide Internet to most parts of the country. Removing Internet service in certain areas of the U.S. would require those companies to turn off their cell towers and fiber networks, and to restrict satellite access to people living in those regions. America can't shut off the Internet overseas either Shutting down Internet service in foreign countries could be even more difficult. Despite a common belief to the contrary, the United States does not control the global Internet. Servers on foreign soil serve up the Web and other Internet services to people living abroad. So foreign Internet infrastructure would need to be disrupted or shut down to turn off service in certain areas -- already a tricky task made even harder if the countries and companies controlling those servers and cell towers abroad don't cooperate. Whatever, Donald Trump wouldn't want the Internet shut off anyway. Then he couldn't tweet. Very frightening. But this is the funniest part: "He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet." Is that the same Bill Gates who famously underestimated the power of the Internet while focusing on Zune? I picture Trump telling Bannon, "Jobs is dead, we better call Gates!" Isn't he basically saying to ask Bill Gates to write a program that shuts down radical jihadi websites and message boards? If he is, I agree. We should. Do you think Bill Gates is capable of that? Maybe he can steal a program from Amit Singhal. I have no idea what Gates is capable of, I can barely check my own email..I'm confident Gates knows the people to get it done... Are you arguing if Gates is the right man for the job, or if its possible or unconstitutional? |
Author: | JORR [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
312player wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: 312player wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I know all you Hillarettes are so hysterical over a few potential terrorists getting a little extra scrutiny at the airport that you are missing the worst of Trump: http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/technol ... -internet/ Donald Trump has called for a shutdown of the Internet in certain areas to stop the spread of terror. In a speech at the U.S.S. Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Monday, Trump referenced the use by ISIS of social media as a recruitment tool. He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet. "We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people." Some totalitarian governments do it The notion that the Internet could be shut off is not completely off base. North Korea does it. Some countries have been known to shut off Internet service to their citizens in times of crisis. Egypt restricted the Internet during the 2011 Arab Spring uprising. Other countries block certain Internet services and sites. China is the most famous example, forbidding most social networking sites as well as websites that deal with subjects the government doesn't want its citizens to know about. Most Western countries, including the United States, regulate the Internet very loosely. There are few restrictions about what American citizens can do and say on the Internet. Child pornography is one example of forbidden Internet activity in the United States -- Google is barred from linking to it, and websites cannot display images of it. Why the United States can't do it But a full-on "closing up" of the Internet "in certain areas" would be an impossible task. There are so many players with so much redundancy built into the system, that the Internet is not just something that can be turned off with a wave of a magic wand. Virtually every part in the United States has multiple Internet service provider options. Comcast, (CMCSA) Time Warner Cable (TWC) and the other major broadband companies don't overlap much. But Verizon (VZ, Tech30), AT&T (T, Tech30), Sprint (S) and T-Mobile (TMUS) all provide the same service to roughly the same areas. Satellite companies also provide Internet to most parts of the country. Removing Internet service in certain areas of the U.S. would require those companies to turn off their cell towers and fiber networks, and to restrict satellite access to people living in those regions. America can't shut off the Internet overseas either Shutting down Internet service in foreign countries could be even more difficult. Despite a common belief to the contrary, the United States does not control the global Internet. Servers on foreign soil serve up the Web and other Internet services to people living abroad. So foreign Internet infrastructure would need to be disrupted or shut down to turn off service in certain areas -- already a tricky task made even harder if the countries and companies controlling those servers and cell towers abroad don't cooperate. Whatever, Donald Trump wouldn't want the Internet shut off anyway. Then he couldn't tweet. Very frightening. But this is the funniest part: "He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet." Is that the same Bill Gates who famously underestimated the power of the Internet while focusing on Zune? I picture Trump telling Bannon, "Jobs is dead, we better call Gates!" Isn't he basically saying to ask Bill Gates to write a program that shuts down radical jihadi websites and message boards? If he is, I agree. We should. Do you think Bill Gates is capable of that? Maybe he can steal a program from Amit Singhal. I have no idea what Gates is capable of, I can barely check my own email..I'm confident Gates knows the people to get it done... Are you arguing if Gates is the right man for the job, or if its possible or unconstitutional? I don't think Gates is a dope, but he's not some computer savant either. He hornswoggled some goof out of DOS. He's rich. I'm pretty sure he's dedicated to eradicating polio and helping the third world with its sanitation. |
Author: | Spaulding [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Is he trying to close this place down? I don't blame him. There is lots of stupidity here, we are not making America great again. |
Author: | Darkside [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Jesus this is turning into a brutal nightmare |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
why would they need to write a program to shut off sites? when they think music is being shared on a site POOF off it goes like a lightswitch |
Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Spaulding wrote: Is he trying to close this place down? I don't blame him. There is lots of stupidity here, we are not making America great again. It was a really good run. But just like anything else it needs to end and be rebuilt from the ground up without MANY involved. |
Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Bill Gates is gonna write some program that finds and, what, deletes muzlim webpages. How fucking dumb a person do you have to be to believe that's how things work in any capacity? |
Author: | leashyourkids [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
This article is pre-Trump presidency. We should probably try to focus on the stupid shit he's doing today or we'll be overwhelmed. |
Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Trump want to "close up" the Internet |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Spaulding wrote: Is he trying to close this place down? I don't blame him. There is lots of stupidity here, we are not making America great again. It was a really good run. But just like anything else it needs to end and be rebuilt from the ground up without MANY involved. We tried that and you fuckers ran right back into the arms of bigfan. |
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