good dolphin wrote:
Hey, I prowled the tough streets of Sauganash for the first ten years of my life. You never knew what kind of QAS thugs might be hanging out at the Rosemont underpass.
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
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| Author: | IMU [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
I think Herb posted this on FB. But he works in Chicago! |
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| Author: | JORR [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
good dolphin wrote: Hey, I prowled the tough streets of Sauganash for the first ten years of my life. You never knew what kind of QAS thugs might be hanging out at the Rosemont underpass.
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| Author: | JORR [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. Technically that is correct, but we do have black people. |
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| Author: | IMU [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:43 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. Technically that is correct, but we do have black people. And one Steve that cancels that out. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: good dolphin wrote: Hey, I prowled the tough streets of Sauganash for the first ten years of my life. You never knew what kind of QAS thugs might be hanging out at the Rosemont underpass.The guy calling him out obviously doesn't really know what he is talking about. He hears "Evanston" and thinks Northwestern and Sheridan Road. There are some pretty tough parts of Evanston and it's not like it is far removed from Chicago. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:46 pm ] |
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IMU wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. Technically that is correct, but we do have black people. And one Steve that cancels that out. What? |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Evanston's got some murders going on down south, no? |
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| Author: | Hockey Gay [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:48 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. Technically that is correct, but we do have black people. I'm sorry to hear that |
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| Author: | IMU [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Douchebag wrote: IMU wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. Technically that is correct, but we do have black people. And one Steve that cancels that out. What? That's what I'm saying to myself. Who knows? Friday? |
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| Author: | America [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Everything inside 294 is pretty much the same place-to-place. The one major exception is that Glenview-Northbrook area where things really start spreading out a lot. I feel like the Naval Air Station used to be the upper reaches of inhabited Chicagoland on the W side of the Edens, but now that its gone there's no real landmark. So I say Glenview is in, Northbrook is out. Drawing a line around the city exactly is dumb, because the cities' borders are pretty arbitrary. Take someone who is from out of state north on Sheridan and see if they realize right when they cross from Chicago to Evanston. Takes a few blocks to realize things have changed at all, and even when you get to those nicer houses you could easily mistake that wealthy part of Evanston from any of the wealthier parts of Chicago (especially to the untrained eye). |
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| Author: | America [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
That and I "lived" in Glenview with my grandparent and her husband for my last two years of high school and I liked it a lot, so I'm partial. |
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:57 pm ] |
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good dolphin wrote: lol, this is what i referenced at the end of yesterday's b&b thread saying that the URL (which had -bruh-youre-from-evanston- in it) was the most jason goff URL ever =P [and yes, i know i'm technically from the suburbs and all that, but i used to sleep on the L on off nights during "the lean years" =] |
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:59 pm ] |
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America wrote: Take someone who is from out of state north on Sheridan and see if they realize right when they cross from Chicago to Evanston. Takes a few blocks to realize things have changed at all, and even when you get to those nicer houses you could easily mistake that wealthy part of Evanston from any of the wealthier parts of Chicago (especially to the untrained eye). why stop there? maybe we can take an alien due east on 90/94 and see if they realize right then they left earth (sometime after crossing the border into indiana) |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:05 am ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. Technically that is correct, but we do have black people. Schaumburg is a melting pot. We have amazing demographics. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:26 am ] |
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It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:29 am ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" The entire concept of street cred is hilarious. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:35 am ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" or midwesterners in general who get their feathers ruffled over "east coast bias" when they act like this is the center of the world just as bad as new yorkers do. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
W_Z wrote: Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" or midwesterners in general who get their feathers ruffled over "east coast bias" when they act like this is the center of the world just as bad as new yorkers do. Agreed! |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:39 am ] |
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" The entire concept of street cred is hilarious. Almost as funny as those who readily talk about it. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:42 am ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" You can have it. I won't claim Chicago unless President Trump comes in and cleans it up. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:43 am ] |
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. Technically that is correct, but we do have black people. Schaumburg is a melting pot. We have amazing demographics. 
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:45 am ] |
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leashyourkids wrote: Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" You can have it. I won't claim Chicago unless President Trump comes in and cleans it up. That's mighty white of you.
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Regular Reader wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" The entire concept of street cred is hilarious. Almost as funny as those who readily talk about it. You are Chicago tough. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:58 am ] |
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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Regular Reader wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Regular Reader wrote: It's always amusing to hear suburbanites have any part of this discussion. Usually including the ridiculous fallacy that is "Chicagoland" The entire concept of street cred is hilarious. Almost as funny as those who readily talk about it. You are Chicago tough. And I revel in Bear Weather |
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Didn't Berney Stone try to erect a wall (or a guardrail) between Chicago and Evanston in the '90's, and EVANSTON WILL PAY FOR IT? #makewestridgegreatagain,again |
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| Author: | JORR [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Telegram Sam wrote: Didn't Berney Stone try to erect a wall (or a guardrail) between Chicago and Evanston in the '90's, and EVANSTON WILL PAY FOR IT? #makewestridgegreatagain,again He did. I think because he was angry about Lincolnwood Town Center, although I don't know why he took it out on Evanston. The "Stone Wall" on Howard in front of Home Depot didn't last too long. It was dangerous and it was removed not too long after that dope had it installed. Berny also forced Lincolnwood to get its own Fire Department because he was so pissed about the mall. Prior to that they had an arrangement where Peterson-Pulaski would cover Lincolnwood. |
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Telegram Sam wrote: Didn't Berney Stone try to erect a wall (or a guardrail) between Chicago and Evanston in the '90's, and EVANSTON WILL PAY FOR IT? #makewestridgegreatagain,again He did. I think because he was angry about Lincolnwood Town Center, although I don't know why he took it out on Evanston. The "Stone Wall" on Howard in front of Home Depot didn't last too long. It was dangerous and it was removed not too long after that dope had it installed. Berny also forced Lincolnwood to get its own Fire Department because he was so pissed about the mall. Prior to that they had an arrangement where Peterson-Pulaski would cover Lincolnwood. This is from Wikipedia. I didn't know this part, but the bolded part might be what you are remembering: Although resident and corporate relations between Chicago and neighboring suburb Evanston are generally cordial and co-operative,[33] Stone was a protagonist in perhaps the most significant altercation in recent decades. The Evanston City Council adopted the Southwest II Tax Increment Financing (TIF) District, also called the Howard-Hartrey TIF, on April 27, 1992, in order to incent the development of a disused 23-acre Bell and Howell distribution center.[34] A city contractor installed a $150,000, 2.5 feet (0.76 m) high, three-block-long, continuous steel guardrail down the middle of Howard Street, from Kedzie Avenue to California Avenue, blocking vehicles from crossing between Evanston and Chicago, to protect residents from the vehicular traffic expected at a proposed shopping center on the Evanston side of Howard Street that was projected to open in 1995. A Cook County Circuit Court judge denied Evanston's request for a restraining order to halt the erection of the barrier, which became known in the media as "Berny's Wall".[2][7][35][36][37] The Chicago Tribune editorialized calling Stone "silly" and the guardrail a "senseless idea...just an insipid ploy by a useless alderman who has too much time on his hands and too much of the taxpayers' money at his disposal".[38] On May 28, 1993, Evanston Mayor Lorraine H. Morton, Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, Stone, and city officials met at Chicago City Hall, and hours later, Morton announced that Evanston would drop legal action against Chicago.[39] The next day, after consultation with Evanston's corporation counsel and others, Evanston announced they would continue legal recourse in conjunction with negotiations.[40] Stone demanded that Evanston pick up the cost of the installation and removal of the guardrail. On June 1, 1993, the Evanston City Council voted to refuse to contribute funds, to continue their lawsuit, and to defer modifications to the site plan until the barrier was dismantled.[41] Testimony began July 25, 1994. Chicago Transportation Commissioner Joseph Boyle Jr. and Planning Commissioner Valerie Jarrett testified that the guardrail had been installed at Stone's request without the benefit of traffic or planning studies. A partner of the shopping center's construction firm testified that Stone had discussed with him in 1992 the idea of siting the project on vacant land near the Lincoln Village Shopping Center, a site that was scheduled to be redistricted into the 50th Ward in 1995.[42] Evanston officials said Stone was jealous of the project going to Evanston.[43] On September 21, 1994, the judge ruled that the March 25, 1993 resolution which Stone ushered through the Chicago City Council authorized Chicago's Department of Transportation commissioner to consider a barrier, declared that the Department had no authority to install the guardrail, ordered Chicago to remove it and pay all costs including Evanston's legal fees, and dismissed Chicago's countersuit to block the shopping center.[33] Chicago's request for a stay pending appeal was denied,[43] Bell and Howell agreed to pay the estimated $35,000 to remove the barrier, and removal began on October 4, 1994. "The party isn't over until the fat man sings, and I'm the fat man", said Stone.[44] The Chicago Tribune editorialized calling the barrier "a petty, indulgent waste of money at the people's expense".[45] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Stone |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JoeOrr Street Cred Is Called Into Question |
IMU wrote: Evanston is no more Chicago than Schaumburg. You get off the Red Line at Howard at 1:00 am and then let us know if you'd like to revise this statement... |
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