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with a student ? she gets my vote.

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Great mug shot. About the reaction this "crime" deserves.

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Looks like she is caught on the teacher thing as I assume 17 is above consent in Texas. No sucky or fucky and career over. And would repeatedly.

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I'm sure her husband is thrilled

This is the happily married couple celebrating her birthday the night before she got arrested

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“You’ve got a young lady who was arrested on the statement of a 17-year-old kid with no corroborating evidence. This isn’t a guilty person sitting there like they just got caught,” Nassour told the news station. “When everything’s fleshed out it won’t be as it appears.”

oh she got fleshed out all right

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2. She Taught Anatomy, Physiology & Environmental Systems at Lockhart High School After Previously Teaching at an Elementary School

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Fowlkes grew up in Dripping Springs, Texas, about an hour away from Lockhart, and about 30 minutes away from Austin.

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Rape! Lock her up!

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She said, “The campus will have counselors available to meet with any student who needs or wants support.”

Two weeks later, Heavy.com is posting 36-dpi slutty Instagram photos of the counselor who fucked a "coping" student.

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So supposedly she grabbed his balls and he grabbed her tits?

Is there any proof, or just him saying so?

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I don't think they're alleging she even had sex with the student, rather touched his genitals "with intent to arouse and satisfy", whatever the hell that means. Can you recklessly or negligently give a handjob?


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I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?

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I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


Do we know what the kid was wearing? Was he asking for it?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


Do we know what the kid was wearing? Was he asking for it?


Good questions. We need to know if this was legitimate rape.

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Was she in the military?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


When South Park hits the nail on the head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7SpXGz-XOc

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


I'm joking about it because this kid is pretty close to the arbitrary statutory distinction between "unable to consent" and "able to consent", and in these cases I tend to think it likely the kid was actually able to consent, just like a female 17 year old would be.


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Was she in the military?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


I'm joking about it because this kid is pretty close to the arbitrary statutory distinction between "unable to consent" and "able to consent", and in these cases I tend to think it likely the kid was actually able to consent, just like a female 17 year old would be.


So any teacher should be allowed to have sex with 17 and 18 year old students as long as it is consensual?

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


I'm joking about it because this kid is pretty close to the arbitrary statutory distinction between "unable to consent" and "able to consent", and in these cases I tend to think it likely the kid was actually able to consent, just like a female 17 year old would be.


So any teacher should be allowed to have sex with 17 and 18 year old students as long as it is consensual?

If the student is above the age of consent, I don't think the teacher should go to jail for it. I would be fine with them losing their job and never being able to teach again.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


I'm joking about it because this kid is pretty close to the arbitrary statutory distinction between "unable to consent" and "able to consent", and in these cases I tend to think it likely the kid was actually able to consent, just like a female 17 year old would be.


So any teacher should be allowed to have sex with 17 and 18 year old students as long as it is consensual?

If the student is above the age of consent, I don't think the teacher should go to jail for it. I would be fine with them losing their job and never being able to teach again.



I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.

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She is a cutie.

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I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.
It does open up some issues with the concept of grooming younger kids and waiting for the acceptable time.

It's not hard for an adult to avoid a child until they are 18 though. Why can't we just accept that they should not get involved with them until 18?

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I can't find the exact charge in the two articles I read.

The age of consent is 17 in Texas, and they don't seem to have a 'position of authority' law like Illinois does.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I assume that everyone laughing this off would have the same reaction if this was a 27 year old married male teacher and a 17yr old female student right?


I'm joking about it because this kid is pretty close to the arbitrary statutory distinction between "unable to consent" and "able to consent", and in these cases I tend to think it likely the kid was actually able to consent, just like a female 17 year old would be.


So any teacher should be allowed to have sex with 17 and 18 year old students as long as it is consensual?


What do you mean "allowed"? Should it be acceptable to fire them for it? Absolutely. Brand them as rapists and send them to prison? No, I don't think so, unless there is evidence that the student, while close to the actual age of consent, still wasn't capable of it, mentally/emotionally.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.
It does open up some issues with the concept of grooming younger kids and waiting for the acceptable time.

It's not hard for an adult to avoid a child until they are 18 though. Why can't we just accept that they should not get involved with them until 18?



I think we do generally accept it, but it is clearly arbitrary as the age of consent varies from state to state. I don't see the justice in a guy going to jail and having to register as a sex offender because he bagged his 17 year old girlfriend in the wrong state.

The issue is the roles of the parties this case rather than their respective ages.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.
It does open up some issues with the concept of grooming younger kids and waiting for the acceptable time.

It's not hard for an adult to avoid a child until they are 18 though. Why can't we just accept that they should not get involved with them until 18?


You can accept that. But why cloud this case with the issue? Age of consent issues pertaining to sex crimes in Texas states the victim must be under 17. So it really is only a workplace or teacher-student matter here. Regardless of whether we agree with it or not it seems she is properly charged.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.
It does open up some issues with the concept of grooming younger kids and waiting for the acceptable time.

It's not hard for an adult to avoid a child until they are 18 though. Why can't we just accept that they should not get involved with them until 18?


A simple breach of trust eh? Now how about if the school police officer was caught in the same situation. Are we looking at that as a breach of trust? What if it was the local Lutheran priest? Adults in positions of authority with kids need to be held to a higher standard IMO. I don't think she should go to prison but I wouldn't be opposed to having her register as a sex offender under a new category. "Predilection to engage with minors in her care". She isn't a rapist but she isn't an innocent 20 something either.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.
It does open up some issues with the concept of grooming younger kids and waiting for the acceptable time.

It's not hard for an adult to avoid a child until they are 18 though. Why can't we just accept that they should not get involved with them until 18?



I think we do generally accept it, but it is clearly arbitrary as the age of consent varies from state to state. I don't see the justice in a guy going to jail and having to register as a sex offender because he bagged his 17 year old girlfriend in the wrong state.

The issue is the roles of the parties this case rather than their respective ages.
Being arbitrary doesn't really matter. The amount of taxes I pay is arbitrary too. It doesn't mean I can decide a lower number is acceptable and when the IRS knocks on my door I say "It's arbitrary!".

The rules are what they are. Of course it's somewhat strange that literally one day can make a difference but you have to set the line somewhere. Set the age of consent at 17 and someone says "16 was really close!" and then set it at 16 and someone says "15 was really close!" and then set it at 15 and someone says "14 was really close!" and we keep on going.

18, for many reasons, has become the standard in our society for a lot of things. The laws do seem to lessen penalties for many things that are close to 18 but we still need some consequences for authority figures who can't wait the months to finally close the deal.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.
It does open up some issues with the concept of grooming younger kids and waiting for the acceptable time.

It's not hard for an adult to avoid a child until they are 18 though. Why can't we just accept that they should not get involved with them until 18?


You can accept that. But why cloud this case with the issue? Age of consent issues pertaining to sex crimes in Texas states the victim must be under 17. So it really is only a workplace or teacher-student matter here. Regardless of whether we agree with it or not it seems she is properly charged.
From what I understand, she would be facing no charges if she had waited until 18. That makes it relevant.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I agree. I don't think what she did should be viewed as a criminal offense, but rather as a simple breach of trust in the workplace.
It does open up some issues with the concept of grooming younger kids and waiting for the acceptable time.

It's not hard for an adult to avoid a child until they are 18 though. Why can't we just accept that they should not get involved with them until 18?


You can accept that. But why cloud this case with the issue? Age of consent issues pertaining to sex crimes in Texas states the victim must be under 17. So it really is only a workplace or teacher-student matter here. Regardless of whether we agree with it or not it seems she is properly charged.
From what I understand, she would be facing no charges if she had waited until 18. That makes it relevant.


Possibly. I did not see that part in the Texas thing I looked up. In that case fired is still a punishment due to the ethical concern.

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