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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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I am going to assume you are being sarcastic.

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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Nas wrote:
I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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You can't force someone to go to college right after High School.

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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This seems like people getting upset simply to be upset. Having a plan after graduation isn't a bad thing to require.

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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You can't force someone to go to college right after High School.


He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them?

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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You can't force someone to go to college right after High School.

The article does say a job would qualify.

This is basically just requiring them to have a plan more than sit at home smoking the marijuana cigarettes.

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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I am going to assume you are being sarcastic.


I'm serious. The requirement doesn't have any teeth but besides that I don't see why any parent would be pissed about this.

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Maybe they all should cite a desire to follow in the tiny dancer's toe shoes, since it served him (& us) so well.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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You can't force someone to go to college right after High School.


He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them?


My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate.

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780


You can't force someone to go to college right after High School.


He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them?


My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate.


I wonder how the Obamas feel about that.

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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780


You can't force someone to go to college right after High School.


He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them?


My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate.

Lazy.

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Nas wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
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I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780


You can't force someone to go to college right after High School.


He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them?


My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate.


He would be able to graduate. He just wouldn't get his diploma until the following year.

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Would never be monitored but sounds good.

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Nas wrote:
I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset?

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He's a boob.....how many big cities has this worked in? "crickets"

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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended.

Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools.

Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly.


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Trolling posts aside, his proposal would have no legal legs whatsoever.

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But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly.


...and illegal.

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This will never work. What constitutes a "plan"?

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This will never work. What constitutes a "plan"?


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Trolling posts aside, his proposal would have no legal legs whatsoever.


Kids have to do community service in order to get graduate now. How is that different? These kids would be able to graduate BUT they wouldn't be able to receive a piece of paper without doing something extremely basic.

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That's why the plan is in partnership with the Ron Santo foundation.


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 Post subject: Re: Mayor Emanuel
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I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended.

Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools.

Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly.

You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do.

Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?'

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I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended.

Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools.

Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly.

You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do.

Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?'


So requiring state-issued identification to vote unfairly targets and oppresses minorities, but a school system with a student body nearly 40% black requiring acceptance to college in order to get a high school diploma is, what, empowering?

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This is a horrible idea. Why would someone think this is ok? What if someone's post graduation plan includes being a bum and traveling around the country just to experience different shit? That's unacceptable so they don't get a diploma even though they graduated? You can't force someone to conform to society's expectations.

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Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly.

JLN is usually wrong but he isn't here. Nobody should disagree with this quote.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended.

Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools.

Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly.

You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do.

Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?'


Fine. My two-sentence essay would read: "None of your fucking business. It's my legal right to decide what I want to do when I want to do it, so fuck you".

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Minooka Meatball wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended.

Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools.

Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly.

You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do.

Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?'


Fine. My two-sentence essay would read: "None of your fucking business. It's my legal right to decide what I want to do when I want to do it, so fuck you".

Right. This is an insane proposition.

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