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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mayor Emanuel |
I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
It's doing what public schools do best: additional paperwork that doesn't really accomplish anything. |
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| Author: | Minooka Meatball [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 I am going to assume you are being sarcastic. |
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| Author: | America [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
City Colleges accepts all CPS grads. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 You can't force someone to go to college right after High School. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
This seems like people getting upset simply to be upset. Having a plan after graduation isn't a bad thing to require. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 You can't force someone to go to college right after High School. He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them? |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 You can't force someone to go to college right after High School. The article does say a job would qualify. This is basically just requiring them to have a plan more than sit at home smoking the marijuana cigarettes. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Minooka Meatball wrote: Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 I am going to assume you are being sarcastic. I'm serious. The requirement doesn't have any teeth but besides that I don't see why any parent would be pissed about this. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Maybe they all should cite a desire to follow in the tiny dancer's toe shoes, since it served him (& us) so well. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Nas wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 You can't force someone to go to college right after High School. He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them? My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 You can't force someone to go to college right after High School. He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them? My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate. I wonder how the Obamas feel about that. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 You can't force someone to go to college right after High School. He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them? My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate. Lazy. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 You can't force someone to go to college right after High School. He isn't trying to though. He's saying that everyone should have some plan after high school in order to get their diploma. What's wrong with that? Why wouldn't you want your child to have a plan even if college isn't for them? My kid might want to take a year off before starting college and travel. He wouldn't be able to graduate. He would be able to graduate. He just wouldn't get his diploma until the following year. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
The world needs ditch diggers too |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Would never be monitored but sounds good. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Nas wrote: I don't have a problem with this. Why are people upset? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... d31ff94780 He's a boob.....how many big cities has this worked in? "crickets" |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended. Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools. Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly. |
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| Author: | Minooka Meatball [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Trolling posts aside, his proposal would have no legal legs whatsoever. |
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| Author: | Minooka Meatball [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly. ...and illegal. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
This will never work. What constitutes a "plan"? |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
leashyourkids wrote: This will never work. What constitutes a "plan"? 2016 |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Minooka Meatball wrote: Trolling posts aside, his proposal would have no legal legs whatsoever. Kids have to do community service in order to get graduate now. How is that different? These kids would be able to graduate BUT they wouldn't be able to receive a piece of paper without doing something extremely basic. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Minooka Meatball wrote: Trolling posts aside, his proposal would have no legal legs whatsoever. That's why the plan is in partnership with the Ron Santo foundation. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended. Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools. Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly. You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do. Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?' |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended. Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools. Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly. You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do. Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?' So requiring state-issued identification to vote unfairly targets and oppresses minorities, but a school system with a student body nearly 40% black requiring acceptance to college in order to get a high school diploma is, what, empowering? Ok. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
This is a horrible idea. Why would someone think this is ok? What if someone's post graduation plan includes being a bum and traveling around the country just to experience different shit? That's unacceptable so they don't get a diploma even though they graduated? You can't force someone to conform to society's expectations. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly. JLN is usually wrong but he isn't here. Nobody should disagree with this quote. |
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| Author: | Minooka Meatball [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended. Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools. Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly. You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do. Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?' Fine. My two-sentence essay would read: "None of your fucking business. It's my legal right to decide what I want to do when I want to do it, so fuck you". |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mayor Emanuel |
Minooka Meatball wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: I'm sure this insanity won't merely increase the number of 18-year olds from a low-income family without a high school diploma working minimum wage jobs. Not at all. This will surely work as intended. Also, needing to at least show employment (likely with a private corporation) to get a diploma from a public school certainly smells unconstitutional. I'm not exactly sure how "gainful employment [in a private business]" can be made part of the course work for publicly funded schools. Either the kids complete the course work and get their diploma, or they do not. If you want to add "post high school planning" as a half-semester requirement like health class is (or was), fine. But necessitating college acceptance or gainful employment as a condition precedent to receiving a diploma is just silly. You just have to be accepted to college which anyone can do. Anyone who fails to get a diploma because of this doesn't deserve one. It's basically a 2 sentence essay on 'What do you plan to do after high school?' Fine. My two-sentence essay would read: "None of your fucking business. It's my legal right to decide what I want to do when I want to do it, so fuck you". Right. This is an insane proposition. |
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