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Should Joseph Stalin be celebrated for 20 MM dead Russians
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Author:  TurdFerguson [ Tue May 02, 2017 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Should Joseph Stalin be celebrated for 20 MM dead Russians

Shouldn't he at least get a statue somewhere?

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Tue May 02, 2017 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should Joseph Stalin be celebrated for 20 MM dead Russia

TurdFerguson wrote:
Shouldn't he at least get a statue somewhere?

Uncle Joe
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Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue May 02, 2017 2:41 pm ]
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That's like being forced to choose between the Cubbies and the Red Sox

Author:  beni hanna [ Tue May 02, 2017 3:46 pm ]
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My guy ran across a museum in his home town dedicated to the man. Probably more than enough. Odd little dump.

http://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/articles/2015-07-stalins-cave

Author:  Nas [ Tue May 02, 2017 4:04 pm ]
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Yes. He won WWII.

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Tue May 02, 2017 4:06 pm ]
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beni hanna wrote:
My guy ran across a museum in his home town dedicated to the man. Probably more than enough. Odd little dump.

http://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/articles/2015-07-stalins-cave

The only worse museum is the Elvis Is Alive Museum in Missourah. I think it is closed (or not?) and now exists online only....which I'd think defeats the purpose of seeing cool stuff in person.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue May 02, 2017 4:22 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.

Stalin did just about everything he could to lose that war (purging his generals, having GRU destroy unit morale, etc.) It was only Zhukov who was able to overcome the unintentional sabotage from the top and win the war with major logistical support via Lend-Lease.

Stalin knew this and tried to destroy Zhukov after the war.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he should be put next to Hitler and the Holodomor is all that needs to be said.

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Tue May 02, 2017 5:03 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.

Stalin did just about everything he could to lose that war (purging his generals, having GRU destroy unit morale, etc.) It was only Zhukov who was able to overcome the unintentional sabotage from the top and win the war with major logistical support via Lend-Lease.

Stalin knew this and tried to destroy Zhukov after the war.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he should be put next to Hitler and the Holodomor is all that needs to be said.

As a former Russophile, I'm impressed by your knowledge. I'm just glad we live in a world in which Zhukov is translated as "Zhukov" and not "Chuikov." Confused the Christ out of me during my salad days. A+ post.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue May 02, 2017 7:57 pm ]
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formerlyknownas wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.

Stalin did just about everything he could to lose that war (purging his generals, having GRU destroy unit morale, etc.) It was only Zhukov who was able to overcome the unintentional sabotage from the top and win the war with major logistical support via Lend-Lease.

Stalin knew this and tried to destroy Zhukov after the war.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he should be put next to Hitler and the Holodomor is all that needs to be said.

As a former Russophile, I'm impressed by your knowledge. I'm just glad we live in a world in which Zhukov is translated as "Zhukov" and not "Chuikov." Confused the Christ out of me during my salad days. A+ post.

Why a "former Russophile"?

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:16 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.

Stalin did just about everything he could to lose that war (purging his generals, having GRU destroy unit morale, etc.) It was only Zhukov who was able to overcome the unintentional sabotage from the top and win the war with major logistical support via Lend-Lease.

Stalin knew this and tried to destroy Zhukov after the war.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he should be put next to Hitler and the Holodomor is all that needs to be said.

As a former Russophile, I'm impressed by your knowledge. I'm just glad we live in a world in which Zhukov is translated as "Zhukov" and not "Chuikov." Confused the Christ out of me during my salad days. A+ post.

Why a "former Russophile"?

Russian history and lit burnout....no longer relevant, I guess. Now Lorraine Hansberry--she's still relevant (which, in some ways, is scary).

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:18 pm ]
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formerlyknownas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.

Stalin did just about everything he could to lose that war (purging his generals, having GRU destroy unit morale, etc.) It was only Zhukov who was able to overcome the unintentional sabotage from the top and win the war with major logistical support via Lend-Lease.

Stalin knew this and tried to destroy Zhukov after the war.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he should be put next to Hitler and the Holodomor is all that needs to be said.

As a former Russophile, I'm impressed by your knowledge. I'm just glad we live in a world in which Zhukov is translated as "Zhukov" and not "Chuikov." Confused the Christ out of me during my salad days. A+ post.

Why a "former Russophile"?

Russian history and lit burnout....no longer relevant, I guess. Now Lorraine Hansberry--she's still relevant (which, in some ways, is scary).


What's better, Master & Margarita or Envy?

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:20 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.

Stalin did just about everything he could to lose that war (purging his generals, having GRU destroy unit morale, etc.) It was only Zhukov who was able to overcome the unintentional sabotage from the top and win the war with major logistical support via Lend-Lease.

Stalin knew this and tried to destroy Zhukov after the war.

As far as Stalin is concerned, he should be put next to Hitler and the Holodomor is all that needs to be said.

As a former Russophile, I'm impressed by your knowledge. I'm just glad we live in a world in which Zhukov is translated as "Zhukov" and not "Chuikov." Confused the Christ out of me during my salad days. A+ post.

Why a "former Russophile"?

Russian history and lit burnout....no longer relevant, I guess. Now Lorraine Hansberry--she's still relevant (which, in some ways, is scary).


What's better, Master & Margarita or Envy?

Master & Margarita!! Envy was goofy.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:22 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.


This guy?

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Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:23 pm ]
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Favorite Russian satirists? Light em up Chicago!

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:26 pm ]
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Yakov Smirnoff

Author:  Peoria Matt [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:27 pm ]
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Image

Author:  long time guy [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:28 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Nas wrote:
Yes. He won WWII.

False, Zhukov won WWII.


This guy?

Image


I thought the same thing. :lol: I'm somewhat familiar with the famous general and whenever I'd see his name I'd think Boris Zhukov.

Nikita Koloff was highly underrated. I can still hear Schiavione yelling "RUSSIAN CYCLE,

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:28 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
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Vhat a country! (Did he have any other lines?)

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:33 pm ]
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formerlyknownas wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Image

Vhat a country! (Did he have any other lines?)


In Soviet Russia (x) does (y)!

Author:  formerlyknownas [ Tue May 02, 2017 8:37 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Image

Vhat a country! (Did he have any other lines?)


In Soviet Russia (x) does (y)!



Ha....Wikipedia has a page on this...

In America, you watch Big Brother.
In Soviet Russia, Big Brother watches you!

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Wed May 03, 2017 12:37 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Yakov Smirnoff

Ukrainian

Author:  TurdFerguson [ Wed May 03, 2017 5:28 am ]
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Image

Author:  beni hanna [ Wed May 03, 2017 4:11 pm ]
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formerlyknownas wrote:
beni hanna wrote:
My guy ran across a museum in his home town dedicated to the man. Probably more than enough. Odd little dump.

http://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/articles/2015-07-stalins-cave

The only worse museum is the Elvis Is Alive Museum in Missourah. I think it is closed (or not?) and now exists online only....which I'd think defeats the purpose of seeing cool stuff in person.


My walking/writing guy recently ran across another museum. A year's walk down the road in Bishkek another post reference to Stalin, and Frunze whom he most likely had killed. Same unfortunate state of affairs at the museum it seems. Interesting stuff nonetheless.
http://www.nationalgeographic.org/projects/out-of-eden-walk/articles/2017-04-edge-faded-soviet-empire-shrine-forgetting

Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed May 03, 2017 4:22 pm ]
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Inneresting

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Fri May 05, 2017 4:01 pm ]
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TurdFerguson wrote:
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Super Dodgeball!!!! Great game! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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