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Author:  pittmike [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Social Media: The Bigger Picture

I came across a couple articles today that made me wonder what is the big picture future of social media. Especially, as it applies and is used by businesses, media/entertainment and politicians. We do not have to look any further than the POTUS or WSCR to see it is presumed to be a valuable and useful tool for their missions.

You can't go any long period of time without seeing a mention of Twitter or Facebook on everything from commercials to the local news. Athletes constantly use it to screw themselves. Bloggers and reporters live off of it. We see every guest that Bernsie has feels compelled to tell us their Twitter handle and of course all the hosts flaunt theirs.

I don't see it useful in these regards long term. What do you all think? Anyway, here are the articles I read showing maybe things will be changing.

This one has to do with politicians not being allowed to block people and the fact that constituents have a right to their social media:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/court-rule ... 1501176625

This one shows Twitter is not long for business success if they do not change the game drastically. It even mentions that they should treat abuse reports like JDC's better:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... evaporates

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Social Media: The Bigger Picture

Twitter just had their quarterly earnings report today. They reported a net loss in users this quarter. That's a death knell for them. Their earnings went up, but if users continue to drop, the earnings will fall with the change.

Their stock lost 14% on the news and is now worth only a third of what it's value was on the day they had their IPO.

Author:  Cashman [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:51 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Twitter just had their quarterly earnings report today. They reported a net loss in users this quarter. That's a death knell for them. Their earnings went up, but if users continue to drop, the earnings will fall with the change.

Their stock lost 14% on the news and is now worth only a third of what it's value was on the day they had their IPO.


Aren't these all fads? I mean we went from Friendster to Myspace to Facebook to Twitter to Instagram to I have no fucking idea.....

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:55 pm ]
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Cashman wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Twitter just had their quarterly earnings report today. They reported a net loss in users this quarter. That's a death knell for them. Their earnings went up, but if users continue to drop, the earnings will fall with the change.

Their stock lost 14% on the news and is now worth only a third of what it's value was on the day they had their IPO.


Aren't these all fads? I mean we went from Friendster to Myspace to Facebook to Twitter to Instagram to I have no fucking idea.....

Facebook has grown beyond the point where it's a fad. I say they are established and they are constantly trying to branch out into more. They are looking to even launch their own news service. They (unlike Twitter) have shown to be very profitable.

Twitter will disappear though as they have never shown a profit and are losing users.

Besides, their blue checkmark has turned into a dunce cap.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:12 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:

Besides, their blue checkmark has turned into a dunce cap.


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Author:  conns7901 [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Social Media: The Bigger Picture

Facebook has done better since they transformed from college aged kids to people in their 30s and 40s who are less likely to jump from thing to thing. Twitter does not have a hold on that group.

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:32 pm ]
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I think FB is here to stay at least for a long while. That have had many users basically store their life there. I will say teens are more insta and snap by my experience but FB bought that or something.

I'm more interested what business will do without twitter. Especially journalists and Bernsie types.

Author:  W_Z [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:08 pm ]
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Facebook is the Amazon.com of social media. they stayed the course.

Twitter has been taken way too far and hopefully it implodes soon. it's a wasteland of stupidity.

Author:  jackref [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:32 pm ]
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W_Z wrote:
Facebook is the Amazon.com of social media. they stayed the course.

Twitter has been taken way too far and hopefully it implodes soon. it's a wasteland of stupidity.


Carl's Jr. is going to buy it. Fuck you and tweet!*

As long as there are porn bots Twitter will survive...



*I hope that was an obvious Idiocracy reference. Also sorry KI for explaining my own joke in my own reply.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:32 pm ]
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Twitter is a more mainstream and easier to read version of Reddit.

Author:  W_Z [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:33 pm ]
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Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:35 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
I think FB is here to stay at least for a long while. That have had many users basically store their life there. I will say teens are more insta and snap by my experience but FB bought that or something.

I'm more interested what business will do without twitter. Especially journalists and Bernsie types.

I have 12 years of pictures on Facebook, I'm never deleting my account.

Basically it's not the hip site it was when it was launched and you needed a .edu to register. It was a back deal in 2005 when I was a Freshman at Purdue and everyone got their@purdue.edu e-mail so they could register on Facebook. It's now the site your parents use so the current teen generation doesn't touch it, but that isn't the generation that makes money from advertisers. Facebook owns the 25-49 year old target demo that advertisers crave.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:38 pm ]
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Here is a piece that highlights the struggles Twitter faces.

https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articl ... estionable

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:42 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Here is a piece that highlights the struggles Twitter faces.

https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articl ... estionable


Twitter Prime will fix it. Charge Julie and her ilk $4.99 a month for a checkmark (and "premium, algorithm-based harassment prevention") and call it a day.

Author:  W_Z [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:59 am ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
pittmike wrote:
I think FB is here to stay at least for a long while. That have had many users basically store their life there. I will say teens are more insta and snap by my experience but FB bought that or something.

I'm more interested what business will do without twitter. Especially journalists and Bernsie types.

I have 12 years of pictures on Facebook, I'm never deleting my account.

Basically it's not the hip site it was when it was launched and you needed a .edu to register. It was a back deal in 2005 when I was a Freshman at Purdue and everyone got their@purdue.edu e-mail so they could register on Facebook. It's now the site your parents use so the current teen generation doesn't touch it, but that isn't the generation that makes money from advertisers. Facebook owns the 25-49 year old target demo that advertisers crave.


i had started on Friendster in 2003, and then migrated to MySpace in 2005. i heard of Facebook around 2006, and some college girl where i worked raved about it. i think they thought they were part of some cool club or something by using it. And it was the cooler thing to use than MySpace because *everybody* was on MySpace. I joined Facebook in 2009. MySpace took a huge nosedive by that time, and Facebook prospers.

Twitter has always seemed to be some Basketcase siamese twin mutant of social media. it's dumbed down American culture; and what's worse, people now depend on it for news. it's ridiculous.

Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:22 am ]
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I would hardly call anything that has lasted 13 years a "fad."

I use Twitter constantly. It's the main vehicle I use to get my news, correspond with golf companies and golf fans, and it has allowed me to network with numerous people who have helped my blogging career.

That being said, without Twitter seriously addressing their trolling issue -- which is rampant and extreme -- they will implode.

Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:24 am ]
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W_Z wrote:
Twitter has always seemed to be some Basketcase siamese twin mutant of social media. it's dumbed down American culture; and what's worse, people now depend on it for news. it's ridiculous.


I would argue that Twitter offers more "real news" than anything on CNN, FOX, or MSNBC.

Author:  pittmike [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:48 am ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
W_Z wrote:
Twitter has always seemed to be some Basketcase siamese twin mutant of social media. it's dumbed down American culture; and what's worse, people now depend on it for news. it's ridiculous.


I would argue that Twitter offers more "real news" than anything on CNN, FOX, or MSNBC.


As long as you trust the "news" you follow is unbiased and legit.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:49 am ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
W_Z wrote:
Twitter has always seemed to be some Basketcase siamese twin mutant of social media. it's dumbed down American culture; and what's worse, people now depend on it for news. it's ridiculous.


I would argue that Twitter offers more "real news" than anything on CNN, FOX, or MSNBC.

I would argue the opposite. Twitter is what has destroyed journalism as the blue checkmarks care more about getting it out first than getting it out accurately. It has literally led to the proliferation of fake news and false reporting.

Contrast that to the old school journalists who would rather get it right than get it 1st.

Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:57 am ]
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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
That being said, without Twitter seriously addressing their trolling issue -- which is rampant and extreme -- they will implode.

Shut up, burrito.

Author:  McDude [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:43 am ]
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I don't understand how anyone uses Facebook. Twitter has so much more content and breaking news. Facebook is pictures and family shit. It's useless to me.

Author:  JORR [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:44 am ]
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Facebook is better for stalking old girlfriends though.

Author:  IMU [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:47 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Facebook is better for stalking old girlfriends though.

Ex girlfriends use Instagram now.

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