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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.3430885 |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Or 30 million Americans depending on how you look at it. |
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| Author: | chaspoppcap [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 And? |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Quote: The poll surveyed 1,014 adults The poll surveyed adults across the country from Aug. 16 to 20 through calls to their cell phones or land lines. Self-biasing sample, much? Just like the BS "1 in 5" studies, it is imperative to know the response rate. Also, what exactly does "find acceptable" mean? As in, it is acceptable for people to voice those views without fear of violent reprisal or sanction from the government? If so, this poll is alarming, but not in the way you think it is. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
long time guy wrote: Or 30 million Americans depending on how you look at it. IMU wrote: That is half the number who attended the Cubs parade.
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
long time guy wrote: long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Or 30 million Americans depending on how you look at it. Quote: The poll surveyed 1,014 adults Owned by your own source AGAIN! 
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Quote: The poll surveyed 1,014 adults The poll surveyed adults across the country from Aug. 16 to 20 through calls to their cell phones or land lines. Self-biasing sample, much? Just like the BS "1 in 5" studies, it is imperative to know the response rate. Also, what exactly does "find acceptable" mean? As in, it is acceptable for people to voice those views without fear of violent reprisal or sanction from the government? If so, this poll is alarming, but not in the way you think it is. Awfully presumptuous since I have yet to state what I think. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: long time guy wrote: long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Or 30 million Americans depending on how you look at it. Quote: The poll surveyed 1,014 adults Owned by your own source AGAIN! I don't read too much into polls like these, but I don't think you understand how polling works. |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: long time guy wrote: long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Or 30 million Americans depending on how you look at it. Quote: The poll surveyed 1,014 adults Owned by your own source AGAIN! Nah that's if the polling plays true to form. I'm sure a data guy such as yourself understands how polling works? Or not. It's why the caveat "depending on how you look at it" was inserted. |
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| Author: | Tall Midget [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Who are the 8% that have no opinion about the acceptability of Nazi or white supremacist ideology? They need more time to mull this over? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Sounds about right. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
lower than I would expect from a poll of that sort. roughly 15% of whities are overtly racist. I could buy that. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
What does acceptable mean? I would think this question would have to make it clear that this is not a question about free speech. |
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| Author: | Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Tall Midget wrote: Who are the 8% that have no opinion about the acceptability of Nazi or white supremacist ideology? They need more time to mull this over? They are the ones who realized "shit, I don't know who is going to get my name from this, and I don't need a white supremacist trying to set my house on fire some night." |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Tall Midget wrote: Who are the 8% that have no opinion about the acceptability of Nazi or white supremacist ideology? They need more time to mull this over? 39% of Republicans have no opinion on the whether the alt right holds racist views. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
long time guy wrote: Tall Midget wrote: Who are the 8% that have no opinion about the acceptability of Nazi or white supremacist ideology? They need more time to mull this over? 39% of Republicans have no opinion. I think this is false but honestly not sure. Pretty sad |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Douchebag wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: long time guy wrote: long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Or 30 million Americans depending on how you look at it. Quote: The poll surveyed 1,014 adults Owned by your own source AGAIN! I don't read too much into polls like these, but I don't think you understand how polling works. A sample of just over a thousand people reached by phone and not one mention of how the results were massaged to account for any kind of selection/sampling biases is not easily extrapolated to the entire US population, as LTG did by saying "Or 30 million Americans...", I know that. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Douchebag wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: long time guy wrote: long time guy wrote: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/percent-americans-neo-nazis-acceptable-survey-article-1.3430885 Or 30 million Americans depending on how you look at it. Quote: The poll surveyed 1,014 adults Owned by your own source AGAIN! I don't read too much into polls like these, but I don't think you understand how polling works. A sample of just over a thousand people reached by phone and not one mention of how the results were massaged to account for any kind of selection/sampling biases is not easily extrapolated to the entire US population, as LTG did by saying "Or 30 million Americans...", I know that. Thank you for confirming that you don't understand polling. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Douchebag wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: A sample of just over a thousand people reached by phone and not one mention of how the results were massaged to account for any kind of selection/sampling biases is not easily extrapolated to the entire US population, as LTG did by saying "Or 30 million Americans...", I know that. Thank you for confirming that you don't understand polling. Then please, enlighten me, Dr. Douche Canoe. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
long time guy wrote: Tall Midget wrote: Who are the 8% that have no opinion about the acceptability of Nazi or white supremacist ideology? They need more time to mull this over? 39% of [polled] Republicans have no opinion on the whether the alt right holds racist views. FIFY |
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| Author: | long time guy [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Fake News! 39% of Americans not Republicans as previously stated. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: long time guy wrote: Tall Midget wrote: Who are the 8% that have no opinion about the acceptability of Nazi or white supremacist ideology? They need more time to mull this over? 39% of [polled] Republicans are either racist or condone racism FIFY FTFY |
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| Author: | chaspoppcap [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
You ever notice with polls like this they never release the questions? I mean,come on. If you are against gun ownership you are pro Nazi. If you are Pro-American Indian you are a Nazi. |
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| Author: | America [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
I see we are back to trusting polls again. Have fun with that. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
FavreFan wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: FIFY FTFY I always thought it was "Fixed It For You". |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Americans are in favor of banning DHMO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw This is polling done right. I've seen the light. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
chaspoppcap wrote: If you are Pro-American Indian you are a Nazi. 
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| Author: | BeerFan [ Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Over 50% of of Americans--less millions of illegal votes, but still--voted for B Hussein Obama. Explain that shit. "is it safe"--BHO "not on your nelly"--Patriots #faeces from the guy who created Moses Wine, hippy PI: Played by Richard Dreyfuss inna movie: "...He contrasted Donald with Obama, whom Graham called a "bad general." True enough, but it's worse. Obama wasn't just a bad general or even an atrocious one. Consciously and/or unconsciously, he was on the other side. Sound exaggerated? Then ask yourself this -- why would a man as intelligent as Barack Obama 1. telegraph his intentions and pull-out date to the enemy, 2. not keep a decent military presence in Iraq, leaving it wide open to the nascent ISIS or similar religious maniacs and 3. give so much money to the Iranian mullahs in pursuit of a chimerical nuclear deal with a result that they are now all over the Middle East, killing as many people as possible and perpetuating the endless Syrian civil war (with literally millions of refugees), while testing ICBMs for the day when that (sort of) deal expires? And that's leaving out the red line, the complete punting on North Korea, etc. I thought this was supposed to be the smartest guy in the room. Well, if you don't like America and want to see it neutered, maybe he is." |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Douchebag wrote: Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: A sample of just over a thousand people reached by phone and not one mention of how the results were massaged to account for any kind of selection/sampling biases is not easily extrapolated to the entire US population, as LTG did by saying "Or 30 million Americans...", I know that. Thank you for confirming that you don't understand polling. Then please, enlighten me, Dr. Douche Canoe. Paging Dr. Canoe, Dr. Douche Canoe.... |
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| Author: | chaspoppcap [ Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9% of Americans Finds Nazi Views Acceptable |
Frank Coztansa wrote: chaspoppcap wrote: If you are Pro-American Indian you are a Nazi. I shit you not,in the bizzaro world of Naziland,they considered the Native Americans to by Aryans and equal to them. They funded groups and even in post war plans where going to give back large portions of North America them. https://m.thevintagenews.com/2016/09/15/nazis-considered-sioux-extension-native-americans-aryans-2/ Quote: American pro-Nazi movements, such as the Friends of the New Germany and the German-American Bund, played no role in Hitler’s plans for the country and received no financial or verbal support from Germany after 1935. However, certain Native American advocate groups, such as the fascist-leaning American Indian Federation, were to be used to undermine the Roosevelt administration from within using propaganda. In addition, the Nazis considered the Sioux, and by extension all Native Americans, to be Aryans; a theory echoed in the sympathetic portrayal of the Natives in German westerns of the 1930s such as Der Kaiser von Kalifornien.
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