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Author:  conns7901 [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:38 pm ]
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So now lawyers pissed about body cameras. Less false reports are being filed and less opportunity to sue the police when there is video evidence of a disturbance. I thought the point of cameras were to get things correct?

Police Body Cameras Can Threaten Civil Rights of Black and Brown People, New Report Says
Josh Saul

The number of U.S. police departments outfitting their officers with body cameras increases each year, but the cameras can pose a threat to civil rights if the departments fail to set rules that govern when officers review footage from their cameras, according to a new report.

The vast majority of the nation’s biggest police departments allow officers to watch footage from body cameras whenever they want, including before they write their incident reports or make statements, said the report, which was released Tuesday by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.

“Unrestricted footage review places civil rights at risk and undermines the goals of transparency and accountability,” said Vanita Gupta, former head of the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division and current head of the Leadership Conference, in the report’s introduction.

Because an officer’s memory of an event may be altered by watching body camera footage, doing so will likely alter what officers write in their reports. That, in turn, can make it more difficult for investigators or courts to assess whether the officer’s actions were reasonable based on what he or she perceived at the time of the incident, states the report, “The Illusion of Accuracy: How Body-Worn Camera Footage Can Distort Evidence.”

Body camera programs are in place at 62 of the 69 largest U.S. police departments, according to a scorecard released Tuesday by the Leadership Conference. Most of those departments—55, or almost 80 percent—allow officers to view their footage whenever they want.

The Leadership Conference report advises that police departments institute a “clean reporting” policy, under which officers write an initial incident report before reviewing any footage. Only afterward would they watch the footage and write a second, supplementary report.


“We make the case that in the interests of consistency, fairness, transparency and accountability, clean reporting should be adopted as a standard practice for all police departments with body-worn camera programs,” writes Gupta in the introduction.

Some policing experts say officers should view the footage before writing a report to make sure the account is correct.

“They want to be as accurate as they can,” Lance LoRusso, an ex-cop and current Atlanta attorney who represents police officers, told the Associated Press. “This specter that every time an officer looks at the video they’re going to lie and adapt their statement just is infuriating because we want the officers to write the most accurate report they can.”
Author:  Brick [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:43 pm ]
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I think the suspect should be allowed the same opportunity to view the footage before making any statement too.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm ]
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Police reports need to be more accurate!

STOP MAKING POLICE REPORTS MORE ACCURATE!!
Author:  Brick [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:56 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Police reports need to be more accurate!

STOP MAKING POLICE REPORTS MORE ACCURATE!!
I think this does lead to a chance of abuse as a police officer could shape their story to fit the evidence on the tape.

I don't see the harm in having the officer do a report, and then a supplementary report if there is a change from seeing the evidence.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:57 pm ]
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Here is my question, if these cameras can just as easily exonerate the cop as they can incriminate them, why the fuck are unions so against them then? I mean seriously, these cameras should be absolutely 100% mandatory and if I were a cop I would damn well want one as it keeps me from getting into a he said/she said situation.

Heck, if you want me to find a justified police shooting, look at this case. The body cam exonerates the cop 100% here. If I'm a cop I damn well want to be wearing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoOMyUgU_o4 There is no doubt the guy is reaching for a gun in his waistband here. This is me, the most anti-cop guy on the board saying this is a good shoot by the cop. I can come to that conclusion because of the body cam.
Author:  America [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:04 pm ]
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Very good friend of mine is CPD and at first they hated the cameras, but now that they've gotten used to them they love them. People are really fucking stupid and say all sorts of dumb shit that just gets recorded..red meat for cops and DA's. Also all those accusations of "racist-ass POLICE"...go look at the tape. Same applies for "I NEVER SAID THAT" then they show them the footage of them saying exactly what they deny saying.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:06 pm ]
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America wrote:
Very good friend of mine is CPD and at first they hated the cameras, but now that they've gotten used to them they love them. People are really fucking stupid and say all sorts of dumb shit that just gets recorded..red meat for cops and DA's. Also all those accusations of "racist-ass POLICE"...go look at the tape. Same applies for "I NEVER SAID THAT" then they show them the footage of them saying exactly what they deny saying.

In the long run, body cameras can both aid the good cops (yes they do exist) and weed out the bad ones.
Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:11 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Police reports need to be more accurate!

STOP MAKING POLICE REPORTS MORE ACCURATE!!
I think this does lead to a chance of abuse as a police officer could shape their story to fit the evidence on the tape.


Yeah I can see that. And yes, your supplementary report idea is a good one that would fairly allow officers another chance at a "better" recollection of facts.

I just wanted to make a joke using that meme.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:20 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
America wrote:
Very good friend of mine is CPD and at first they hated the cameras, but now that they've gotten used to them they love them. People are really fucking stupid and say all sorts of dumb shit that just gets recorded..red meat for cops and DA's. Also all those accusations of "racist-ass POLICE"...go look at the tape. Same applies for "I NEVER SAID THAT" then they show them the footage of them saying exactly what they deny saying.

In the long run, body cameras can both aid the good cops (yes they do exist) and weed out the bad ones.


Yep.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:24 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Here is my question, if these cameras can just as easily exonerate the cop as they can incriminate them, why the fuck are unions so against them then? I mean seriously, these cameras should be absolutely 100% mandatory and if I were a cop I would damn well want one as it keeps me from getting into a he said/she said situation.

Heck, if you want me to find a justified police shooting, look at this case. The body cam exonerates the cop 100% here. If I'm a cop I damn well want to be wearing one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoOMyUgU_o4 There is no doubt the guy is reaching for a gun in his waistband here. This is me, the most anti-cop guy on the board saying this is a good shoot by the cop. I can come to that conclusion because of the body cam.

I don’t see how that video exonerates the cop. The girlfriend can clearly be heard saying several times that “ he didn’t do nothing wrong “.
Author:  tommy [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:49 pm ]
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This is one of those threads where I pretty much agree with what everyone said.....
Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:45 pm ]
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The real criminals are anyone who causes less work for lawyers.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:02 pm ]
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I'd like to wear a body cam when I get really drunk. It would be interesting to see what actually happens.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:45 pm ]
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Unrestricted footage review places civil rights at risk and undermines the goals of transparency and accountability

Well there's some G-damned doublespeak if ever I saw it.
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