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Author:  Nas [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  New Tariff
http://time.com/5113472/donald-trump-so ... el-tariff/
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Tariff
Who wants to start the New Sheriff thread?
Author:  Hatchetman [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:29 pm ]
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Baby! My world stands still when I’m with yoooouu...
Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:41 pm ]
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Welp another idiot actor/reality star wants to retard progress.

To think that President Carter 1st put solar panels on the White House 40 years ago, just for Bonzo's buddy to rip them off a year or two later.
Author:  pittmike [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:42 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
Baby! My world stands still when I’m with yoooouu...


:lol:
Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:46 pm ]
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Tariffs on fuckin solar panels?
Dude.
Author:  Baby McNown [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:52 pm ]
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The something something tariff act.. anyone? anyone? The Hawley Smoot Tariff Act....
Author:  DannyB [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:55 pm ]
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I agree 100% with JORR that no president has ever understood alternative sources of energy, trade deficits and washing machines like this strong and good president. This president has studied the issue with his typically keen eye and has made the plain-spoken, broad-shouldered decision that a move away from solar energy will move the US that much closer to energy independence and Make America Great Again. It's called leadership, people. We've been without it for so long thanks to that loser Muslim Booga Wooga Odumbo that we don't recognize it when we see it.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:04 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Tariffs on fuckin solar panels?
Dude.

Twice as many people in the U.S. work in the solar industry than in coal. This should level the playing field.

I’m sure the fossil fuel industry is celebrating bigly...but I’m also sure they had no influence on this.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:09 pm ]
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DannyB wrote:
I agree 100% with JORR that no president has ever understood alternative sources of energy, trade deficits and washing machines like this strong and good president. This president has studied the issue with his typically keen eye and has made the plain-spoken, broad-shouldered decision that a move away from solar energy will move the US that much closer to energy independence and Make America Great Again. It's called leadership, people. We've been without it for so long thanks to that loser Muslim Booga Wooga Odumbo that we don't recognize it when we see it.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Especially at the Booga Wooga flourish.
Author:  Brick [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:10 pm ]
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Solar panels use up too much of the sun. Good move.

Just like wind power is bad because annoying useless birds are dumb and can't figure out windmills.
Author:  billypootons [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:10 pm ]
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Tariff on imported panels only
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:14 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?
Author:  billypootons [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:17 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels
Author:  Nas [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:18 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels


We use imported parts on our great American panels.
Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:19 pm ]
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Too bad they couldn't get the real Dr. Meinheimer to deliver his recommendation speech.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:21 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels

I’m assuming you understand why this is not really beneficial to the vast majority of the employees noted previously.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:22 pm ]
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I applaud this because mass adoption of solar panels and batteries would decimate future power plant projects. We need to keep relying on central sources of power so a few people can stay really rich.
Author:  Brick [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:23 pm ]
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Trump went after college football fans. Good to see him attack the hippies too before he loses my support.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:33 pm ]
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Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:36 pm ]
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Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.
Author:  Baby McNown [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels


We use imported parts on our great American panels.

And it's only for 4 years. If you think our great American companies are going to invest in new manufacturing that will come on line just as the tariffs are gone again I think you are fooling yourself.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:46 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:57 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:02 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:12 pm ]
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tariffs are just fucking stupid on any product. If someone else produces an item at a cheaper cost than you can, then you should find another product to make.

If US solar companies can't compete, then they simply don't deserve to be in business.

Ditto for Whirlpool, who is the main beneficiary of the washing machine tariff. That one is going to bite as I'll have to buy one in June after we close on the new build. I'll still get the damn Samsung because it's the best one on the market. If Whirlpool can't compete with Samsung or LG, then that's too bad. Build a better product.
Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:14 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.

it's not all about China, the washing machine tariff will hit South Korea more than anyone.
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:18 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.

it's not all about China, the washing machine tariff will hit South Korea more than anyone.


China subsidizes the solar panels which makes them as cheap as they are. By putting a tariff on them, the subsidies are basically wasted money. The point is to piss them off, not make US companies competitive.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New Tariff
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.

it's not all about China, the washing machine tariff will hit South Korea more than anyone.


China subsidizes the solar panels which makes them as cheap as they are. By putting a tariff on them, the subsidies are basically wasted money. The point is to piss them off, not make US companies competitive.

It may piss them off, but that doesn’t give us leverage...quite the opposite. Last time we tried something like this they slapped a tariff on U.S. chicken being exported to China, which cost U.S. suppliers over $1 billion. And you didn’t respond to Ogie’s point on the washers. Why do we want to piss off South Korea?
Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:46 pm ]
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Let's not call it a tariff, but rather an indirect payment for draining the swamp, kinda like the Mexican payments on the Hindenburg like wall.

$130,000 at a time. :alien:
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