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Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment rights?
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Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment rights?
If suddenly you could be jailed for speaking out against POTUS, would you fight to the death to preserve that right or would you immediately comply?
Author:  Nas [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
I wouldn't fight to the death for MANY things besides the life of my kids and mine.
Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
I got nothin' goin' on ... sure, why not.
Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
If I'm dead, I won't have the right anymore.

Would I fight to the death for the 1st amendment rights of my family and friends? I don't have kids, my dad is 85, and I don't have very many friends. Why would I bother? I'd just try to move to Singapore instead.
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Don Tiny wrote:
I got nothin' goin' on ... sure, why not.

:lol:
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Darkside wrote:
If suddenly you could be jailed for speaking out against POTUS, would you fight to the death to preserve that right or would you immediately comply?

Id probably wait until Dicks Sporting Goods took the brave step and silenced their employees first before making my decision.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.
Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.


It still sure would suck if there were only two options.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
When civil war comes you need to pick a side. Bystanders get killed anyway.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Not sure about willingness to die, but I sure would post a crap ton of lame facebook memes about it.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.


It still sure would suck if there were only two options.

What other options would you foresee being possible?
I picked the 1st as my question because it would appear to me that peaceful resolution of such a situation would be unlikely due to the very nature of the protectio rescinded.
Author:  Nas [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Is this another 2nd amendment thread?
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Caller Bob wrote:
Not sure about willingness to die, but I sure would post a crap ton of lame facebook memes about it.

And thus, with this post, caller bob has entered the pay no mind section of darkside's brain, never to be noticed or engaged again.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Darkside wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Not sure about willingness to die, but I sure would post a crap ton of lame facebook memes about it.

And thus, with this post, caller bob has entered the pay no mind section of darkside's brain, never to be noticed or engaged again.


Surprised that THIS was the one that put you over the top.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Nas wrote:
Is this another 2nd amendment thread?

No. It's a 1st amendment thread.
I'm interested to see in Americans would be willing to fight to the death in the impossible scenario I posted. Think of it as a thought experiment. I'd liken to not discuss that udder ammenmint der if possible.
I'm wonderi my because I feel like that's the only freedom that we couldn't retake peacefully.
Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.


It still sure would suck if there were only two options.

What other options would you foresee being possible?
I picked the 1st as my question because it would appear to me that peaceful resolution of such a situation would be unlikely due to the very nature of the protectio rescinded.


If you think fighting to the death is one of the only two options, that's a good framework for answering the question "Why do you look at gun owners the way you do?"
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.


It still sure would suck if there were only two options.

What other options would you foresee being possible?
I picked the 1st as my question because it would appear to me that peaceful resolution of such a situation would be unlikely due to the very nature of the protectio rescinded.


If you think fighting to the death is one of the only two options, that's a good framework for answering the question "Why do you look at gun owners the way you do?"

Ok so there’s three options, right?

1.) Fight and risk death
2.) Disobey and go to jail
3.) Comply
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.


It still sure would suck if there were only two options.

What other options would you foresee being possible?
I picked the 1st as my question because it would appear to me that peaceful resolution of such a situation would be unlikely due to the very nature of the protectio rescinded.


If you think fighting to the death is one of the only two options, that's a good framework for answering the question "Why do you look at gun owners the way you do?"

Not exactly what I said. I said would you be WILLING to fight to the death.
With no 1st, you can't write out against the government. You can't organize political action groups. You can't write op ed pieces. You can't start get out the vote campaigns. You cant assemble in public. What alternatives do you see for getting back the 1st, KD? How do you do it? Don't just mock me tell me alternatives.
Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
FavreFan wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.


It still sure would suck if there were only two options.

What other options would you foresee being possible?
I picked the 1st as my question because it would appear to me that peaceful resolution of such a situation would be unlikely due to the very nature of the protectio rescinded.


If you think fighting to the death is one of the only two options, that's a good framework for answering the question "Why do you look at gun owners the way you do?"

Ok so there’s three options, right?

1.) Fight and risk death
2.) Disobey and go to jail
3.) Comply


You're forgetting the CFMB classic

4.) MOVE
Author:  storkinastorm [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
You won't get any serious responses because suburban hipsters think America's "freedoms" and "rights" are just examples of outdated jingoism.
Author:  Nas [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
storkinastorm wrote:
You won't get any serious responses because suburban hipsters think America's "freedoms" and "rights" are just examples of outdated jingoism.


I thought you were a liberal mult. I guess I mistook you for someone else.
Author:  storkinastorm [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Nas wrote:
storkinastorm wrote:
You won't get any serious responses because suburban hipsters think America's "freedoms" and "rights" are just examples of outdated jingoism.


I thought you were a liberal mult. I guess I mistook you for someone else.


I didn't know what a mult was until recently. I had to Google it.
Author:  Baby McNown [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Nas wrote:
I wouldn't fight to the death for MANY things besides the life of my kids and mine.

We've already covered this, but what Nas said.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Baby McNown wrote:
Nas wrote:
I wouldn't fight to the death for MANY things besides the life of my kids and mine.

We've already covered this, but what Nas said.

I'm sad to see this.
But not surprised
Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Which is why when the revolution starts I will be with the gun toting rednecks because I don’t want to die.
Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Darkside wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
That would sure suck if there were only 2 options.

It's hard to get rights back once they've been taken.
I think organizing a political group to regain the 1st amendment would be difficult as you'd probably go to jail for trying.


It still sure would suck if there were only two options.

What other options would you foresee being possible?
I picked the 1st as my question because it would appear to me that peaceful resolution of such a situation would be unlikely due to the very nature of the protectio rescinded.


If you think fighting to the death is one of the only two options, that's a good framework for answering the question "Why do you look at gun owners the way you do?"

Not exactly what I said. I said would you be WILLING to fight to the death.
With no 1st, you can't write out against the government. You can't organize political action groups. You can't write op ed pieces. You can't start get out the vote campaigns. You cant assemble in public. What alternatives do you see for getting back the 1st, KD? How do you do it? Don't just mock me tell me alternatives.


It wasn't mocking you, I honestly do think the fact you presented only two options is a telling mindset.
Author:  newper [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
I could live with losing my right to petition the Government for a redress of my grievances. Also if they enacted a state religion, I would probably be OK with that if the participation requirement were sufficiently low and assuming they did not change the right for free excercise thereof.
Author:  Baby McNown [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Darkside wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Nas wrote:
I wouldn't fight to the death for MANY things besides the life of my kids and mine.

We've already covered this, but what Nas said.

I'm sad to see this.
But not surprised

Well I answered this exact question the exact same way when Ogie asked me, but ok...
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Would you fight to the death for your 1st amendment righ
Quote:

It wasn't mocking you, I honestly do think the fact you presented only two options is a telling mindset.

I can only ask you for what other options there are so many times.
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