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Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:59 pm ]
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DANA CARVEY~!
Author:  Sam in Hoffman [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:01 pm ]
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Carvey/Nealon/Hartman sealed the deal for me.. Rock/Farley/Sandler were good too but they weren't even playing the same game..
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:02 pm ]
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I went with Carvey Hartman, but DAMN how many of these guys died young???
Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:05 pm ]
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DANA CARVEY~!

But your guy was also in the 91-95! Come on, Wayne's World?! That period also saw the genesis of the Superfans.
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:09 pm ]
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MattInTheCrown: But your guy was also in the 91-95! Come on, Wayne's World?! That period also saw the genesis of the Superfans.

True, but I think Dana Carvey was at his absolute funniest between '86 and '89. After that, he sort of started to fall back on his already established stuff and he was less cutting edge.
Author:  MUScholar21 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:09 pm ]
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There was a short time frame when you had Hartman, Carvey, Myers, Nealon doing updates, Al Franken writing and doing Stuart Smalley, Robert Smigel, Julia Sweeney (underrated), Sandler, and Farley. THAT was the heyday.
Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:10 pm ]
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MattInTheCrown: But your guy was also in the 91-95! Come on, Wayne's World?! That period also saw the genesis of the Superfans.

True, but I think Dana Carvey was at his absolute funniest between '86 and '89. After that, he sort of started to fall back on his already established stuff and he was less cutting edge.

Remember "Massive Headwound Harry?" LOL, good times (probably much funnier because I was 10 at the time).
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:11 pm ]
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Massive Headwound Harry is one of my top 3 Carvey sketches.
Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:12 pm ]
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There was a short time frame when you had Hartman, Carvey, Myers, Nealon doing updates, Al Franken writing and doing Stuart Smalley, Robert Smigel, Julia Sweeney (underrated), Sandler, and Farley. THAT was the heyday.

Yeah, that was probably, what, 92-93?
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:13 pm ]
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MUScholar: There was a short time frame when you had Hartman, Carvey, Myers, Nealon doing updates, Al Franken writing and doing Stuart Smalley, Robert Smigel, Julia Sweeney (underrated), Sandler, and Farley. THAT was the heyday.

That was from 1990-93. Everybody was hitting their stride at that point. I didn't count it as an era though because Carvey and Hartman were closer to the end of their run than the beginning.
Author:  MUScholar21 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:14 pm ]
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I just remember being in grade school and WANTING to watch SNL. Now if it gets turned on I nearly scream.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:15 pm ]
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Insanity has clearly hit those who do not vote for the original cast. I cannot think of a weak link in the group. Those that have survived are still stars 30+ years later.
Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:18 pm ]
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Insanity has clearly hit those who do not vote for the original cast. I cannot think of a weak link in the group. Those that have survived are still stars 30+ years later.

The cast was certainly outstanding, but I can't speak for the quality of the show during that era, because it was 5 years prior to my conception.
Author:  MUScholar21 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:18 pm ]
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gd, the original cast was funny, but I'm 25 - I can't relate to that show. SNL then was a cultural phenomenon, much more than a sketch comedy show. That said, its about all I know about it.
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:23 pm ]
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I agree with MU and Matt on this one. A lot of the stuff from the original cast is amongst the funniest I've ever seen. But there's some of it I still don't get even to this day.
Author:  sportsfan [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:23 pm ]
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Saw this when I was 14. I still pull this from time to time.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/83/83fforum.phtml
Author:  Coast2Coast [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:24 pm ]
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I'm probably one of the few here who saw the first SNL. We were sitting around doing what college guys do on a Saturday night and started watching this and said WTF? At that time, it was new, different, and uniquely counter-cultural. In 1975, cable TV, IIRC, consisted of WGN, WTBS and local stations. None of the specialty cable networks today existed then. The only sources of television comedy at that time were sit coms and Carson. Some of the casts since (Murphy, Rock, Farley, etc.) may have had funnier bits, but the originals created an entirely new entertainment genre of live comedy that went beyond club stand-up. And some of the basic elements...weekend update, mock commercials, the opening stand up, live music every week, etc....still endure 32 years later. For that, they ought to get more than a few genius points.

Kid, what don't you get about the original? Maybe I can give you a glimpse into 70s humor. Or not.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:26 pm ]
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I was still crapping my pampers when the original cast was on. The only times I stayed up to watch original shows was at family parties. Still, I have seen more than enough episodes on rerun to know it was great stuff.
Author:  Mr. Reason [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:27 pm ]
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Coast couldn't be more right on. This aired in 1975. There is no way it could be done now, but it was funny as hell.




75g: Richard Pryor / Gil Scott-Heron

Racist Word Association Interview

Written by: Paul Mooney

Interviewer.....Chevy Chase
Mr. Wilson.....Richard Pryor

Interviewer: Alright, Mr. Wilson, you've done just fine on the Rorshact.. your papers are in good order.. your file's fine.. no difficulties with your motor skills.. And I think you're probably ready for this job. We've got one more psychological test we always do here. It's just a Word Association. I'll throw you out a few words - anything that comes to your mind, just throw back at me, okay? It's kind of an arbitrary thing. Like, if I say "dog", you'd say..?

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Tree". [ nods head, prepares the test papers ] "Dog".

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Fast".

Mr. Wilson: "Slow".

Interviewer: "Rain".

Mr. Wilson: "Snow".

Interviewer: "White".

Mr. Wilson: "Black".

Interviewer: "Bean".

Mr. Wilson: "Pod".

Interviewer: [ casually ] "Negro".

Mr. Wilson: "Whitey".

Interviewer: "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: [ silent, sure he didn't hear what he thinks he heard ] What'd you say?

Interviewer: [ repeating ] "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: "Ofay".

Interviewer: "Colored".

Mr. Wilson: "Redneck".

Interviewer: "Junglebunny".

Mr. Wilson: [ starting to get angry ] "Peckerwood!"

Interviewer: "Burrhead".

Mr. Wilson: [ defensive ] "Cracker!"

Interviewer: [ aggressive ] "Spearchucker".

Mr. Wilson: "White trash!"

Interviewer: "Jungle Bunny!"

Mr. Wilson: [ upset ] "Honky!"

Interviewer: "Spade!

Mr. Wilson: [ really upset ] "Honky Honky!"

Interviewer: [ relentless ] "N i g g e r!"

Mr. Wilson: [ immediate ] "Dead honky!" [ face starts to flinch ]

Interviewer: [ quickly wraps the interview up ] Okay, Mr. Wilson, I think you're qualified for this job. How about a starting salary of $5,000?

Mr. Wilson: Your momma!

Interviewer: [ fumbling ] Uh.. $7,500 a year?

Mr. Wilson: Your grandmomma!

Interviewer: [ desperate ] $15,000, Mr. Wilson. You'll be the highest paid janitor in America. Just, don't.. don't hurt me, please..

Mr. Wilson: Okay.

Interviewer: [ relieved ] Okay.

Mr. Wilson: You want me to start now?

Interviewer: Oh, no, no.. that's alright. I'll clean all this up. Take a couple of weeks off, you look tired.
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:31 pm ]
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That sketch was a good example of how to pull of racial humor. It doesn't hurt that Pryor and Chase were two of the best either.
Author:  MUScholar21 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:50 pm ]
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uniquely counter-cultural.


Three words that simply don't exist today. See Napster for how a case study in the death of "counter culture" in today's era.

Reason, that sketch is the most frequently cited, and it is absolutely right to assert it wouldn't play today. I have not argued that point. My point is that it does not resonate the way it does with a guy like Coast - the era, the issues, the feeling, the political landscape, all of it is unrelatable to someone my age. Intellectually, I KNOW why it revolutionized the landscape and what the Not Ready for Prime-Time Players did to TV. That doesn't mean I can rate it funnier than another segment.

Just because Henry Ford invented the Model T, doesn't mean that was the greatest era for cars.
Author:  Mustang Rob [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:07 pm ]
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That sketch was a good example of how to pull of racial humor. It doesn't hurt that Pryor and Chase were two of the best either.


Chapelle pulled off this type of humor on a weekly basis.
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:46 am ]
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MUScholar21 wrote:
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uniquely counter-cultural.


Three words that simply don't exist today. See Napster for how a case study in the death of "counter culture" in today's era.

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Funny you should mention this because I was thinking something similar just the other day. We have been at war for more than half a decade and you hear almost no protest songs being written. Whether you agree with the war or not, don't you find it odd that an industry whose genesis is in sticking it to the man is relatively silent on this topic. I don't know if the reaction to the Dixie Chicks cooled performer's indignance, but where is the protest music?
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:48 am ]
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No one is allowed to speak out against the war, lest they be labeled Un-American.
Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:56 am ]
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Nas
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Most white comedians are scared to take the chance now.


Michael Richards isn't.... :wink:
Author:  W_Z [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:18 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Insanity has clearly hit those who do not vote for the original cast.


it's a generational thing, GD. i think it's fair to say that there were two brilliant runs in SNL history; the first, in the 70's, and the second in the late 80's-early 90's. after '95 it started to go downhill because it became so cultivated and canned, was treated more like a business than anything else. it's just an institution.
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:43 am ]
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It's always annoying when people refer to Tina Fey being the head writer at SNL in order to establish her credibility. What always fails to get mentioned is the part that she was the head writer during the worst period in the show's history in terms of both talent and writing.
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