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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 27, 2018 2:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | What’s a Dynasty? |
Heard on a podcast I like a lot the guys refer to the Kobe/Shaq Lakers as a dynasty and it was just agreed upon. That’s not right, right? I think a dynasty necessarily needs to last 8-10 years minimum with 3-4 titles and probably more. Maybe three in a special circumstance but definitely needs to last more than 5 years. Does it differentiate by sport? I don’t think by much. |
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| Author: | chaspoppcap [ Sun May 27, 2018 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
FavreFan wrote: Heard on a podcast I like a lot the guys refer to the Kobe/Shaq Lakers as a dynasty and it was just agreed upon. That’s not right, right? I think a dynasty necessarily needs to last 8-10 years minimum with 3-4 titles and probably more. Maybe three in a special circumstance but definitely needs to last more than 5 years. Does it differentiate by sport? I don’t think by much. Bulls in the 90s Oilers with the Great one those are Dynasties |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun May 27, 2018 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
I'm not sure you can compare the impact of Kobe/Shaq on the league for an extended period of time like you can for the Patriots with Bellichek and Brady. If LeBron and Wade won a few more championships, I think they would have been the closest since the Bulls run. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun May 27, 2018 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Sun May 27, 2018 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Warriors win this year they are a dynasty |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun May 27, 2018 1:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: I'm not sure you can compare the impact of Kobe/Shaq on the league for an extended period of time like you can for the Patriots with Bellichek and Brady. If LeBron and Wade won a few more championships, I think they would have been the closest since the Bulls run. Forget Duncan's Spurs? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 27, 2018 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Regular Reader wrote: Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: I'm not sure you can compare the impact of Kobe/Shaq on the league for an extended period of time like you can for the Patriots with Bellichek and Brady. If LeBron and Wade won a few more championships, I think they would have been the closest since the Bulls run. Forget Duncan's Spurs? He did. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Sun May 27, 2018 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun May 27, 2018 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 27, 2018 1:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
I dunno. Maybe the Lakers were. Doesn’t seem like it. Then again I would consider the 90’s cowboys one so I guess that’s not consistent. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Sun May 27, 2018 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
I'm undecided on whether the Braves winning 15 straight division titles would qualify despite only one championship. |
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| Author: | chaspoppcap [ Sun May 27, 2018 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Redskins under Gibbs 3 Suberbowls with three diff QB only person to do that plus the majority of his O line is in the hall. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun May 27, 2018 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
chaspoppcap wrote: Redskins under Gibbs 3 Suberbowls with three diff QB only person to do that plus the majority of his O line is in the hall. Little known fact iirc, Joe Gibbs was struggling his first year until he faced Ditka's Bears. I knew then that the Bear had the wrong guy. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun May 27, 2018 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Jaw Breaker wrote: I'm undecided on whether the Braves winning 15 straight division titles would qualify despite only one championship. The bride's maids hall of fame. Nothing more. |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun May 27, 2018 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Regular Reader wrote: Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: I'm not sure you can compare the impact of Kobe/Shaq on the league for an extended period of time like you can for the Patriots with Bellichek and Brady. If LeBron and Wade won a few more championships, I think they would have been the closest since the Bulls run. Forget Duncan's Spurs? Shit, totally forgot they won four or five. Sorry, yeah, that's dynasty worthy. |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun May 27, 2018 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Jaw Breaker wrote: I'm undecided on whether the Braves winning 15 straight division titles would qualify despite only one championship. I would say no. If anything, I would say the lack of more championships probably makes it more of a disappointment than anything. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Sun May 27, 2018 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
RFDC wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. Doesn't feel like one. Feels like they.. missed. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Sun May 27, 2018 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Darkside wrote: RFDC wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. Doesn't feel like one. Feels like they.. missed. Yep, should have had at least one more. Maybe I’m just being greedy. |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Sun May 27, 2018 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
UCLA |
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| Author: | tommy [ Sun May 27, 2018 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
RFDC wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. SF Giants? |
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| Author: | tommy [ Sun May 27, 2018 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Regular Reader wrote: chaspoppcap wrote: Redskins under Gibbs 3 Suberbowls with three diff QB only person to do that plus the majority of his O line is in the hall. Little known fact iirc, Joe Gibbs was struggling his first year until he faced Ditka's Bears. I knew then that the Bear had the wrong guy. They sure as hell ruined any chance the Bears had for a dynasty |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
tommy wrote: RFDC wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. SF Giants? If you take into account that teams in baseball rarely ever repeat and they won three championships in six years, I guess you can argue for it. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Darkside wrote: RFDC wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. Doesn't feel like one. Feels like they.. missed. Yeah I understand that. I think most of us feel like they should have had at least one more. I think history will view them as a dynasty. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Probably. Interesting to note the difference between a literal definition like you posted and how a dynasty "feels" though. Interesting conversation over beer. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Darkside wrote: Probably. Interesting to note the difference between a literal definition like you posted and how a dynasty "feels" though. Interesting conversation over beer. No doubt. But when they win the Cup next year they will solidify things in your mind 
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| Author: | Darkside [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
RFDC wrote: Darkside wrote: Probably. Interesting to note the difference between a literal definition like you posted and how a dynasty "feels" though. Interesting conversation over beer. No doubt. But when they win the Cup next year they will solidify things in your mind Yeah bro I'd say that ship has sailed... 
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
tommy wrote: RFDC wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. SF Giants? Ordinarily I'd agree, but a dynasty has to give you the feeling that they should win back to back at least once. At least in baseball. The Giants were the baseball Redskins. You knew they were really good, but better than the sum of its parts. And without dominance. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: tommy wrote: RFDC wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: RFDC wrote: IMO 3 titles over the course of a decade is the minimum needed for a dynasty. Were/are The Hawks a dynasty? Yes. 3 Cups over less than a decade. SF Giants? If you take into account that teams in baseball rarely ever repeat and they won three championships in six years, I guess you can argue for it. Nah. No way. That’s diluting the word imo. You can’t be randomly shitty every other year during your “dynasty” |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun May 27, 2018 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
With the way baseball playoffs are, there will likely never be a baseball dynasty that meets these criteria. Regular season success would be a better gauge. |
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| Author: | J.R. Ewing [ Sun May 27, 2018 9:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What’s a Dynasty? |
Dynasty is a crappy TV show ABC put on to compete with our great program. |
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