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Author:  jimmypasta [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:56 am ]
Post subject:  Illegal's:Trying to match up families

I don't get it. Some wristbands with matching numbers for each family couldn't have been done?

Lot easier to keep track of numbers than nameless faces. I don't know how they match them up now.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:56 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
I don't get it. Some wristbands with matching numbers for each family couldn't have been done?

Lot easier to keep track of numbers than nameless faces. I don't know how they match them up now.


Thanks jimmy.

Perhaps the "illegals" should come with their own SKU and you could scan their bar code for ICE.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:47 am ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
I don't get it. Some wristbands with matching numbers for each family couldn't have been done?

Lot easier to keep track of numbers than nameless faces. I don't know how they match them up now.


Wristbands can be lost, better to tattoo a number on them.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:38 am ]
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How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.

Author:  The Hawk [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:50 am ]
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chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


I don't allow anyone to enter the United States without a visa. Why in the hell not have border patrol agents physically stop people from entering. As I see it, this is a Mexican problem. THey are the ones who allowed and facilitated this mess from happening. LEt the Mexicans provide jobs and shelter and food, et al for these people. IT is not the obligation of the United States to accept every Tom, Dick, or Jose that wants to live in the United States no matter what that idiot who is running for the president of MExico has to say about it.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:58 am ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
I don't get it. Some wristbands with matching numbers for each family couldn't have been done?

Lot easier to keep track of numbers than nameless faces. I don't know how they match them up now.


Wristbands can be lost, better to tattoo a number on them.


This is the only sensible solution.

Author:  America [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:06 am ]
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For decades this US government has broken up families. How many fathers have been stripped of all family rights by the US court system?

Either way they did make them wear wristbands and numbered t-shirts to avoid being lost in the system but People On Twitter jumped on that immediately as LITERALLY HITLER too.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:09 am ]
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chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.

Author:  America [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:12 am ]
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How about they not walk all the way from El Salvador when they are told repeatedly along the trip that they are not getting what they want when they get to the US border.

Author:  America [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:14 am ]
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And they do just fine on their pilgrimage as far as food and shelter. The same way """"refugees""" get scooped by the roving ships hanging out about 25-30 miles off the African coast and brought right to Spain (worth nothing Italy and France wont take them anymore because Europe grew a spine when it comes to this shit). There's a very well-monied system bringing this human garbage to our doorstep.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:34 am ]
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America wrote:
For decades this US government has broken up families. How many fathers have been stripped of all family rights by the US court system?


Very few.

Author:  The Hawk [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?

Author:  The Hawk [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:51 am ]
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America wrote:
How about they not walk all the way from El Salvador when they are told repeatedly along the trip that they are not getting what they want when they get to the US border.



Thats just it. Someone PAID for the people to get to our border. Some of them were funded by the open borders crowd headed by George Soros. Some were paid to go and helped by the cartels in return for their kids to be used by them to transport drugs. That is the truth of this crap. This is really turning into the beginning of a possible war.

Author:  The Hawk [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:53 am ]
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America wrote:
And they do just fine on their pilgrimage as far as food and shelter. The same way """"refugees""" get scooped by the roving ships hanging out about 25-30 miles off the African coast and brought right to Spain (worth nothing Italy and France wont take them anymore because Europe grew a spine when it comes to this shit). There's a very well-monied system bringing this human garbage to our doorstep.


Absolutely right. This is organized and funded by the cartels and the Soros backed open borders crowd.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?



You bring up God a lot here.

Does the Biblical edict to provide for women and children not apply to you?

Are you only the keeper of your brother you share citizenship with?

Is Soros more powerful then God?

Author:  The Hawk [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

Seacrest wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?



You bring up God a lot here.

Does the Biblical edict to provide for women and children not apply to you?

Are you only the keeper of your brother you share citizenship with?

Is Soros more powerful then God?



I didn't bring up God, here. You did. Jesus did say did he not, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and the things that are God's to God?

IF you want to do the God thing here, go ahead. But God never said for a person to violate the law in order to get ahead in life. Countries have laws and physical borders. The citizens of the world are ordered to respect these laws and borders. For you or anyone to ignore the laws set up to PROTECT its citizens from danger, is unlawful and could be considered a sin. Just like someone running into a theater and yelling FIRE in order to cause a riot, so to are people who decide to crash into country and cause dangers to the people within that country.


Like I said, earlier, if you want to go to Mexico and help these people, then do it. There are many missionaries there and elsewhere in the world who do this and are wonderful people. Give all of your money to these people. Just don't tell me that I have to do the same. I have other priorites with my own family and the charities that I support. Knock youself out.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:17 pm ]
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The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?



You bring up God a lot here.

Does the Biblical edict to provide for women and children not apply to you?

Are you only the keeper of your brother you share citizenship with?

Is Soros more powerful then God?



I didn't bring up God, here. You did. Jesus did say did he not, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and the things that are God's to God?

IF you want to do the God thing here, go ahead. But God never said for a person to violate the law in order to get ahead in life. Countries have laws and physical borders. The citizens of the world are ordered to respect these laws and borders. For you or anyone to ignore the laws set up to PROTECT its citizens from danger, is unlawful and could be considered a sin. Just like someone running into a theater and yelling FIRE in order to cause a riot, so to are people who decide to crash into country and cause dangers to the people within that country.


Like I said, earlier, if you want to go to Mexico and help these people, then do it. There are many missionaries there and elsewhere in the world who do this and are wonderful people. Give all of your money to these people. Just don't tell me that I have to do the same. I have other priorites with my own family and the charities that I support. Knock youself out.


Yeah you're right, probably 0% of your tax dollars are used to keep people out of the country.

Author:  Brick [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:19 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?



You bring up God a lot here.

Does the Biblical edict to provide for women and children not apply to you?

Are you only the keeper of your brother you share citizenship with?

Is Soros more powerful then God?

Soros gets more done on Earth.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?



You bring up God a lot here.

Does the Biblical edict to provide for women and children not apply to you?

Are you only the keeper of your brother you share citizenship with?

Is Soros more powerful then God?



I didn't bring up God, here. You did. Jesus did say did he not, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and the things that are God's to God?

IF you want to do the God thing here, go ahead. But God never said for a person to violate the law in order to get ahead in life. Countries have laws and physical borders. The citizens of the world are ordered to respect these laws and borders. For you or anyone to ignore the laws set up to PROTECT its citizens from danger, is unlawful and could be considered a sin.

Were not Jesus, Mary and Joseph immigrants that crossed the lawful borders of Egypt?

Was that a sin?

Give all of your money to these people. Just don't tell me that I have to do the same. I have other priorites with my own family and the charities that I support.


Who asked you to give so much as a dime to these people?

YOU bring up God a lot here...
The Hawk wrote:
Saw the picture of John McCain. May God take him mercifully.

Author:  The Hawk [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:39 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?



You bring up God a lot here.

Does the Biblical edict to provide for women and children not apply to you?

Are you only the keeper of your brother you share citizenship with?

Is Soros more powerful then God?



I didn't bring up God, here. You did. Jesus did say did he not, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and the things that are God's to God?

IF you want to do the God thing here, go ahead. But God never said for a person to violate the law in order to get ahead in life. Countries have laws and physical borders. The citizens of the world are ordered to respect these laws and borders. For you or anyone to ignore the laws set up to PROTECT its citizens from danger, is unlawful and could be considered a sin.

Were not Jesus, Mary and Joseph immigrants that crossed the lawful borders of Egypt?

Was that a sin?

Give all of your money to these people. Just don't tell me that I have to do the same. I have other priorites with my own family and the charities that I support.


Who asked you to give so much as a dime to these people?

YOU bring up God a lot here...
The Hawk wrote:
Saw the picture of John McCain. May God take him mercifully.



Very disjointed response on your part. You brought out God in this discussion. And your comments were pretty inane and not applicable. Mine were cogent and to the point at hand.


Bringing up Joseph and Mary is silly in this discussion. Exactly WHY were Mary and Joseph traveling within THEIR COUNTRY anyway? I know, do you? What was the GOVERNMENT of that world, anyway? Who established the law in that world anyone? Egypt? Don't think so. Ever hear of a census, bub?

America has no obligation to take care of the rest of the world. Only its own citizens and there is a limit to that. IF you believe that you have an obligation to do this, then have at it but your obligation does not obligate me. I do not want this country to be populated by millions of other people of different cultures who do not respect our country's laws. Look after our citizens first. Look after our wounded veterans. Look after people who want and deserve a chance to thrive.


You believe in your concept of God all that you want to. That is called the freedom of religion. But I am not bound by your beliefs and that is between God and myself. Your opinion doesn't mean shit to me in regard to that. As for George Soros being more powerful than God? That is really a dumb comment.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:41 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.


How did they do that? I paid into the system in order to get help.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

America wrote:
And they do just fine on their pilgrimage as far as food and shelter. The same way """"refugees""" get scooped by the roving ships hanging out about 25-30 miles off the African coast and brought right to Spain (worth nothing Italy and France wont take them anymore because Europe grew a spine when it comes to this shit). There's a very well-monied system bringing this human garbage to our doorstep.


I was thinking of this today. Why is there such a huge wave of Muslim migrants coming into the non Muslim world? Isn't one of the pillars of Islam supposed to be charity and taking care of the poor? Or is it they have seen what happens when their fellow Islamists come for a handout?

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.


How did they do that? I paid into the system in order to get help.


You received government assistance when you needed it.

They are hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers doing jobs you refused to do while on assistance, that are paying into Social Security and Medicare which they will never receive but was provided to YOU.

That's how.

Author:  The Hawk [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:48 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.



They are not American citizens. Let them go back to their countries and have charities help them. The US has no responsibility for them. IF you want to help these people have at it. YOu go down to the border on your dime and you take care of them.


There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens who need help. Many of them are veterans of war. Help these people with our tax dollars. What foreign countries help the US people?



You bring up God a lot here.

Does the Biblical edict to provide for women and children not apply to you?

Are you only the keeper of your brother you share citizenship with?

Is Soros more powerful then God?



I didn't bring up God, here. You did. Jesus did say did he not, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and the things that are God's to God?

IF you want to do the God thing here, go ahead. But God never said for a person to violate the law in order to get ahead in life. Countries have laws and physical borders. The citizens of the world are ordered to respect these laws and borders. For you or anyone to ignore the laws set up to PROTECT its citizens from danger, is unlawful and could be considered a sin. Just like someone running into a theater and yelling FIRE in order to cause a riot, so to are people who decide to crash into country and cause dangers to the people within that country.


Like I said, earlier, if you want to go to Mexico and help these people, then do it. There are many missionaries there and elsewhere in the world who do this and are wonderful people. Give all of your money to these people. Just don't tell me that I have to do the same. I have other priorites with my own family and the charities that I support. Knock youself out.


Yeah you're right, probably 0% of your tax dollars are used to keep people out of the country.



Really? Who pays for the border patrol? Who pays for the police agencies? Who pays for ICE? Who pays for the shelters that house these people? Who pays for the food that they eat? ALl while the DEms and Rinos complain about how much a border wall will cost:(

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:57 pm ]
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Hawk, what makes unarmed women and children a clear and present danger to a combat vet like yourself?

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.


How did they do that? I paid into the system in order to get help.


You received government assistance when you needed it.

They are hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers doing jobs you refused to do while on assistance, that are paying into Social Security and Medicare which they will never receive but was provided to YOU.

That's how.


You sure about that? They are paying into?
I would have taken any job but none would hire me. So unless you know everything about me do not judge me,isn't that also in the Bible that you claim to know so much about?

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.


How did they do that? I paid into the system in order to get help.


You received government assistance when you needed it.

They are hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers doing jobs you refused to do while on assistance, that are paying into Social Security and Medicare which they will never receive but was provided to YOU.

That's how.


You sure about that? They are paying into?
I would have taken any job but none would hire me. So unless you know everything about me do not judge me,isn't that also in the Bible that you claim to know so much about?


I'm positive.

How many dish washing or busing jobs did you turn down when you were on assistance?

Author:  jimmypasta [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

jimmypasta wrote:
I don't get it. Some wristbands with matching numbers for each family couldn't have been done?

Lot easier to keep track of numbers than nameless faces. I don't know how they match them up now.


If you go in to recent stops at the border with a plan to seperate families than you need to have an end game to pair them back up when you send them back. I thought it was that simple but I can see my evil ways being exposed. "Wait,that's what Hitler did". It's also what the Jewels or Meijers does when you want to line up at the deli. I know they shouldn't attempt to cross at the border. What this country needs that is more feasible than a wall,is about 10-15,000 more border patrol agents and about 20 thousand drones flying back and forth watching for illegal passage.

Author:  chaspoppcap [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:07 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.


How did they do that? I paid into the system in order to get help.


You received government assistance when you needed it.

They are hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers doing jobs you refused to do while on assistance, that are paying into Social Security and Medicare which they will never receive but was provided to YOU.

That's how.


You sure about that? They are paying into?
I would have taken any job but none would hire me. So unless you know everything about me do not judge me,isn't that also in the Bible that you claim to know so much about?


I'm positive.

How many dish washing or busing jobs did you turn down when you were on assistance?


Zero. I applied for every job I could get.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Illegal's:Trying to match up families

Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
How about,not try and cross the border illegally?Plus, a lot of these minors are unaccompanied minors. So there is no one to match them up with.


How about providing them with help for food and shelter.

You know, like the government did for YOU when you needed it.


How did they do that? I paid into the system in order to get help.


You received government assistance when you needed it.

They are hundreds of thousands of undocumented workers doing jobs you refused to do while on assistance, that are paying into Social Security and Medicare which they will never receive but was provided to YOU.

That's how.


You sure about that? They are paying into?
I would have taken any job but none would hire me. So unless you know everything about me do not judge me,isn't that also in the Bible that you claim to know so much about?


I'm positive.

How many dish washing or busing jobs did you turn down when you were on assistance?


chaspoppcap wrote:
Zero. I applied for every job I could get.


How many jobs washing dishes did you apply for?

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