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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:41 am 
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Tell it to a Brazilian.

By the way, for all of Macron's posturing over the Climate Accord, US carbon went down 40% while France's went up. While we abide by the accord, France shits all over it and has the balls to try to put their foot up our cleaned up air ass.


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Imagine if the narrative we clung to didn't suck and were not all negative.

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Recently on the BBC, Deborah Tabart from the Australian Koala Foundation noted that “85 per cent of the world’s forests are now gone.” Luckily this statement is incorrect.

Moreover, due to afforestation in the developed world, net deforestation has almost ceased. I’m sure that Tabart had nothing but good intentions in raising environmental concerns, but far-fetched claims about the current state of the world’s forests do not help anyone. The record needs setting straight.

Once nations hit around $4,500 GDP per capita, forest areas begin to increase.


https://capx.co/the-deforestation-myth/

The developed world, spurred on by free market capitalism, has essentially replaced all the trees lost to emerging economies clear cutting in the name of trying to have the privilege of living on more than a dollar a day. We have always gotten this wrong. Putting sweatshops out of work may feel good while you sip your latte but the people out of work might feel differently. And decades of data shows that is the inevitable path towards higher wage manufacturing. Some countries need more sweatshops.

You think we'd like to celebrate our accomplishments. Why do that when we can just always go negative.


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By the way, for all of Macron's posturing over the Climate Accord, US carbon went down 40% while France's went up. While we abide by the accord, France shits all over it and has the balls to try to put their foot up our cleaned up air ass.


It went up partly because the EU's plan to pad member states claims about being a leader in renewables, which actually involved importing biomass to burn from North America. Their wind and solar shortfalls were secretly filled by burning things other than coal. Crafty. That's the EU. A facade.

The EU has used scare tactics and bad science to protect certain EU subsidized farmers from cheap GMO imports for nearly 20 years. The EU are not the good guys. I dont know how that got started in liberal circles.

https://www.humanprogress.org/article.php?p=1435

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Imagine if the narrative we clung to didn't suck and were not all negative.

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Recently on the BBC, Deborah Tabart from the Australian Koala Foundation noted that “85 per cent of the world’s forests are now gone.” Luckily this statement is incorrect.

Moreover, due to afforestation in the developed world, net deforestation has almost ceased. I’m sure that Tabart had nothing but good intentions in raising environmental concerns, but far-fetched claims about the current state of the world’s forests do not help anyone. The record needs setting straight.

Once nations hit around $4,500 GDP per capita, forest areas begin to increase.


https://capx.co/the-deforestation-myth/

The developed world, spurred on by free market capitalism, has essentially replaced all the trees lost to emerging economies clear cutting in the name of trying to have the privilege of living on more than a dollar a day. We have always gotten this wrong. Putting sweatshops out of work may feel good while you sip your latte but the people out of work might feel differently. And decades of data shows that is the inevitable path towards higher wage manufacturing. Some countries need more sweatshops.


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mrgoodkat wrote:
Imagine if the narrative we clung to didn't suck and were not all negative.

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Recently on the BBC, Deborah Tabart from the Australian Koala Foundation noted that “85 per cent of the world’s forests are now gone.” Luckily this statement is incorrect.

Moreover, due to afforestation in the developed world, net deforestation has almost ceased. I’m sure that Tabart had nothing but good intentions in raising environmental concerns, but far-fetched claims about the current state of the world’s forests do not help anyone. The record needs setting straight.

Once nations hit around $4,500 GDP per capita, forest areas begin to increase.


https://capx.co/the-deforestation-myth/

The developed world, spurred on by free market capitalism, has essentially replaced all the trees lost to emerging economies clear cutting in the name of trying to have the privilege of living on more than a dollar a day. We have always gotten this wrong. Putting sweatshops out of work may feel good while you sip your latte but the people out of work might feel differently. And decades of data shows that is the inevitable path towards higher wage manufacturing. Some countries need more sweatshops.

Half of (what became) the US was forest in 1700 and for ten thousand years before that. Maybe that is what she was referring to; I'm not sure. I'm not sure planting more trees means more forests, though it would be great if it did.


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i was expecting this thread nearly a week ago... i generally dislike these threads otherwise i would have added it...what took so long?


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billypootons wrote:
i was expecting this thread nearly a week ago... i generally dislike these threads otherwise i would have added it...what took so long?


It was here Saturday...Chapstick Charlie just bumped it for whatever reason...I'm assuming it has something to do with him thinking this was about underage Vietnamese boys or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning the Air
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billypootons wrote:
i was expecting this thread nearly a week ago... i generally dislike these threads otherwise i would have added it...what took so long?


It was here Saturday...Chapstick Charlie just bumped it for whatever reason...I'm assuming it has something to do with him thinking this was about underage Vietnamese boys or something.


whoops i missed it


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