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Author:  SpiralStairs [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Wrongful Death Case Brought On Behalf of Plan B Baby
The Madison County probate court recognized an aborted fetus as a person with legal rights. According to a local attorney, that's never happened anywhere in the United States.

The decision allows Baby Roe's would-be-father and Baby Roe to sue the abortion clinic and others involved in terminating the pregnancy. (Read more here)

"We have already had a victory, and it was the first one of its kind, ever," Attorney Brent Helms said.

The Madison County probate judge granted Helm's client Ryan Magers' request to represent Baby Roe's estate.

"This is the first estate that I'm aware of that has ever been opened for an aborted baby," Helms said.

Now that Baby Roe is recognized as a person in Madison County, Magers now legally represents Baby Roe.

"It can further pursue not only me, but other fathers, other future fathers, can pursue it as well," Magers said.

Magers and Baby Roe are both suing the Alabama Women's Center and others involved in terminating the pregnancy.

"The only thing that estate has is the right to sue, and so that is what Ryan is doing, is suing on behalf of Baby Roe's estate," Helms said.

Helms added that existing state law recognizes life begins at conception, which supports the case for Baby Roe's estate, and because of that, he believes the case could go before the state supreme court.

"We are confident, and this is a step in the right direction," Helms said.

We asked, and Madison County Probate Judge Frank Barger said he couldn't comment on the case.

The next step for Mager, Helms and Baby Roe is on April 1st, when the abortion clinic legally has to respond to the suit.

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Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Wrongful Death Case Brought On Behalf of Plan B Baby
Alabama
Author:  shirtless driver [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:38 am ]
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what's your point?
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:42 am ]
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shirtless driver wrote:
what's your point?


Seems rather odd dontcha think?
Author:  Panther pislA [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:00 am ]
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Good for them.

If you can't be a dad, don't nut inside.

If you can't be a mom, maybe read a book instead of riding that extra dick.
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:25 am ]
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What are the damages? Considering the cost of raising a child, if this dude "wins" he should get a bill for a half million dollars.
Author:  Panther pislA [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:36 am ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
What are the damages? Considering the cost of raising a child, if this dude "wins" he should get a bill for a half million dollars.

Everything the clinic owns are the damages.

You have to play the same game these assholes do, but better.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:45 am ]
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This would have to be overturned by an appellate court, right?

Unless it is the first step towards the government ruling that life begins at conception.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:49 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
This would have to be overturned by an appellate court, right?
You'd think so, but Alabama.
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:13 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
This would have to be overturned by an appellate court, right?

Unless it is the first step towards the government ruling that life begins at conception.


This is for sure a test case.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:23 am ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
This would have to be overturned by an appellate court, right?

Unless it is the first step towards the government ruling that life begins at conception.


This is for sure a test case.


It will be interesting to see what happens.
Author:  pittmike [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:49 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
This would have to be overturned by an appellate court, right?

Unless it is the first step towards the government ruling that life begins at conception.


This is for sure a test case.


It will be interesting to see what happens.


Yeah smells like some activist filing to try and get it to the top.
Author:  Cashman [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:09 am ]
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Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?
Author:  pittmike [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:11 am ]
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Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.
Author:  Cashman [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:15 am ]
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pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.



I think the last sentence is the Prolife/Prochoice argument, which I think would be best to not debate on this board.

In a country where women want equal rights, that should go for men as well.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:18 am ]
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pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.
Author:  pittmike [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:19 am ]
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Cashman wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.



I think the last sentence is the Prolife/Prochoice argument, which I think would be best to not debate on this board.

In a country where women want equal rights, that should go for men as well.


Probably right.
Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:26 am ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?
Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:28 am ]
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If the plaintiff wins in this case that would be quite a fetus.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:33 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Because it's not his body. He's attempting to put the pregnant woman third in the hierarchy behind a month old fetus and the sperm donor.
Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:34 am ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Because it's not his body. He's attempting to put the pregnant woman third in the hierarchy behind a month old fetus and the sperm donor.

If he believes abortion is murder, which I'm guessing he does, he would be a shithead NOT to do everything in his power to defend the life of his unborn kid.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:41 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Because it's not his body. He's attempting to put the pregnant woman third in the hierarchy behind a month old fetus and the sperm donor.

If he believes abortion is murder, which I'm guessing he does, he would be a shithead NOT to do everything in his power to defend the life of his unborn kid.


Guess we're lucky he didn't kill the doctor then.
Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:42 am ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:

I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Because it's not his body. He's attempting to put the pregnant woman third in the hierarchy behind a month old fetus and the sperm donor.

If he believes abortion is murder, which I'm guessing he does, he would be a shithead NOT to do everything in his power to defend the life of his unborn kid.


Guess we're lucky he didn't kill the doctor then.

Yeah luckily it’s still against the law to murder doctors.
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:49 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Opens up the door to abusive exes suing their victims for damages.
Author:  Rod [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:21 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Opens up the door to abusive exes suing their victims for damages.



As a family law attorney, shouldn't you love this?
Author:  Panther pislA [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:23 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Opens up the door to abusive exes suing their victims for damages.

:scratch:

What could be more abusive than killing someone?
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:26 pm ]
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Panther pislA wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Outside of the Prochoice/Prolife issue, does this not set precedence for men's rights with pregnancy?


I have wondered for years about that angle. Respecting women's bodies sort of trumps men's rights seemingly.


There's no seemingly about it.

This kid is a shit head and so are the people behind his lawsuit.

Why is the kid a shithead?


Opens up the door to abusive exes suing their victims for damages.

:scratch:

What could be more abusive than killing someone?

Bend over and I'll show ya.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:56 pm ]
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There's no point trying to have a rational discussion with people who believe a fertilized embryo is a baby with rights...more rights, in fact, than the actual human being housing the embryo.
Author:  Rod [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:58 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
There's no point trying to have a rational discussion with people who believe a fertilized embryo is a baby with rights...more rights, in fact, than the actual human being housing the embryo.


I think it's the same rights as the other human being, isn't it?
Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:03 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
There's no point trying to have a rational discussion with people who believe a fertilized embryo is a baby with rights...more rights, in fact, than the actual human being housing the embryo.

There's no point in trying to have a rational discussion with people who refuse to even consider that people who think abortion is murder might have a valid argument.
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