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Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 07, 2019 3:48 pm ]
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loc ... story.html

An interesting read that gives me zero hope that meaningful change is coming to DCFS.

Apparently DCFS fields an average of 200 complaints per day. Some of which are baseless and some of which are legit. Every one of those cases is supposed to be treated as though it's a legitimate complaint.

I see no clear path the meaningful change.

Author:  hnd [ Tue May 07, 2019 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DCFS Audit

They are just getting clobbered with so many more new cases without the funding to see them all through. I know many of the private agencies they work with are growing more and more frustrated with the whole situation. Most of the people we are involved with in RI county DCFS are great people who you can tell care about these kids. they are just stuck in red tape and a sea of duties that they can't possible do in 40-50 hours of work. Caseworker and investigator turnover is at an all time high right now.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Tue May 07, 2019 5:45 pm ]
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What’s even worse is that there are that many piece of shit parents out there abusing their kids that there aren’t enough caseworkers or investigators to investigate them all. What the fuck is wrong with people .

Author:  billypootons [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:12 pm ]
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need more qcp's to keep shit in line

Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:22 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
What’s even worse is that there are that many piece of shit parents out there abusing their kids that there aren’t enough caseworkers or investigators to investigate them all. What the fuck is wrong with people .


I was listening to someone yesterday who mentioned how the kids in dcfs care now were increasingly born to people who themselves had been in dcfs custody. I can't think of anything worse than people who felt neglected by the system and now knowing how to abuse the same system as soon as one of their poor children is in it.

Author:  hnd [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:23 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
What’s even worse is that there are that many piece of shit parents out there abusing their kids that there aren’t enough caseworkers or investigators to investigate them all. What the fuck is wrong with people .


I'll be honest, i don't know if that # is actually growing. I think people are just more aware that some methods of parenting are actually horrible methods and I think the ease in which to make a complaint is gotten much easier and DCFS is woefully capable of handling all complaints.

I also believe there is plenty of laziness in the agency as well as with any gvt agency.

Author:  hnd [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:24 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
What’s even worse is that there are that many piece of shit parents out there abusing their kids that there aren’t enough caseworkers or investigators to investigate them all. What the fuck is wrong with people .


I was listening to someone yesterday who mentioned how the kids in dcfs care now were increasingly born to people who themselves had been in dcfs custody. I can't think of anything worse than people who felt neglected by the system and now knowing how to abuse the same system as soon as one of their poor children is in it.


so far all of our placements came from people who were involved in DCFS in one way shape or form when they were children.

Author:  312player [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:29 pm ]
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Does it really matter? They have a new boss every 6 months and pass the blame.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:37 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Does it really matter? They have a new boss every 6 months and pass the blame.


You think it would be self evident that you should feed and clothe and not murder your kid, but apparently we need a government agency to remind us.

Author:  pittmike [ Tue May 07, 2019 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DCFS Audit

One thing seems odd in the way this stuff supposedly can’t be investigated. I would think with how easy it is for a wife to get a husband out of the house with a call to the cops something similar could happen. Other spouse or neighbor calls it in and cops come. Then DCFS.

Author:  leashyourkids [ Tue May 07, 2019 7:47 pm ]
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These are problems driven by a lack of purpose and direction. No government agency can solve them.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 07, 2019 8:31 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
One thing seems odd in the way this stuff supposedly can’t be investigated. I would think with how easy it is for a wife to get a husband out of the house with a call to the cops something similar could happen. Other spouse or neighbor calls it in and cops come. Then DCFS.


It's a different threshold because oftentimes DCFS investigations are brought against couples who are still together who may not cooperate with DCFS. People looking for exclusive possession are already going through a divorce.

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue May 07, 2019 8:45 pm ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
These are problems driven by a lack of purpose and direction. No government agency can solve them.


It's driven by a lot of stuff. I think DCFS does the best it can except for Quad City Pat. He's a dope.

Author:  312player [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:18 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
312player wrote:
Does it really matter? They have a new boss every 6 months and pass the blame.


You think it would be self evident that you should feed and clothe and not murder your kid, but apparently we need a government agency to remind us.



It is self evident to 90% of the US population, the agency is for that 10% of shitbags who need to be sterilized and lose custody. The agency drops the ball though, just eliminate it.

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:35 pm ]
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312player wrote:

It is self evident to 90% of the US population, the agency is for that 10% of shitbags who need to be sterilized and lose custody. The agency drops the ball though, just eliminate it.


Sterilizing people and taking their kids away is not progressive. You thinking about joining the right?

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:41 pm ]
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312player wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
312player wrote:
Does it really matter? They have a new boss every 6 months and pass the blame.


You think it would be self evident that you should feed and clothe and not murder your kid, but apparently we need a government agency to remind us.



It is self evident to 90% of the US population, the agency is for that 10% of shitbags who need to be sterilized and lose custody. The agency drops the ball though, just eliminate it.


Ok. DCFS is gone. Now what?

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:43 pm ]
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Image

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:44 pm ]
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Im sure there are good workers there but they probably get discouraged and unable to change anything.

Author:  312player [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:45 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
312player wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
312player wrote:
Does it really matter? They have a new boss every 6 months and pass the blame.


You think it would be self evident that you should feed and clothe and not murder your kid, but apparently we need a government agency to remind us.



It is self evident to 90% of the US population, the agency is for that 10% of shitbags who need to be sterilized and lose custody. The agency drops the ball though, just eliminate it.


Ok. DCFS is gone. Now what?



Nothing changes.?

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:45 pm ]
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I don't know why you take that job. It will fuck you up for long hours and little pay.

Author:  312player [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DCFS Audit

Spaulding wrote:
312player wrote:

It is self evident to 90% of the US population, the agency is for that 10% of shitbags who need to be sterilized and lose custody. The agency drops the ball though, just eliminate it.


Sterilizing people and taking their kids away is not progressive. You thinking about joining the right?



The right don't have the balls to do it, I'm independent

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:47 pm ]
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312player wrote:

The right don't have the balls to do it, I'm independent


I thought you were left?


You can't decide who has kids or not. I don't know how much can be done when people mistreat them. I don't know if making things easier or harder is the answer. What's worse?

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:48 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
I don't know why you take that job. It will fuck you up for long hours and little pay.



probably because you actually care and want to help coming in. But eventually get discouraged at all the bs.

Author:  312player [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:53 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
312player wrote:

The right don't have the balls to do it, I'm independent


I thought you were left?


You can't decide who has kids or not. I don't know how much can be done when people mistreat them. I don't know if making things easier or harder is the answer. What's worse?



I'd say mistreatment is a huge understatement when you kill them.

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue May 07, 2019 9:59 pm ]
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for anyone who had to go thru life with foster parents and made it, you should get some kind of LIFE Reward.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 07, 2019 10:14 pm ]
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Getting rid of DCFS would cut down the amount of heat DCFS takes.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 07, 2019 10:16 pm ]
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312player wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
312player wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
312player wrote:
Does it really matter? They have a new boss every 6 months and pass the blame.


You think it would be self evident that you should feed and clothe and not murder your kid, but apparently we need a government agency to remind us.



It is self evident to 90% of the US population, the agency is for that 10% of shitbags who need to be sterilized and lose custody. The agency drops the ball though, just eliminate it.


Ok. DCFS is gone. Now what?



Nothing changes.?


So if you think your kid is getting diddled what do you do? File a lawsuit? Call up the police?

Author:  312player [ Tue May 07, 2019 10:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DCFS Audit

I would never put my daughter in that situation.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Tue May 07, 2019 10:23 pm ]
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312player wrote:
I would never put my daughter in that situation.


If that's the case then why not play the lottery every day? I mean you already know what's going to happen in the future so what's stopping you?

Author:  Spaulding [ Tue May 07, 2019 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DCFS Audit

312player wrote:
I would never put my daughter in that situation.


what's the barometer for being a shitty abusive parent?

I get it. I have a family member that shouldn't be a parent and should have her kids taken away.

You can't tell people they can't be parents, and it's hard to take kids away, and who will take them?

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