If you really care about income inequality, you would support collective bargaining, including the strike.

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The UAW as an organization is a corrupt pile of shit. They exist to perform dog and pony shows for the US CoC and force bad deals down their members throats.

Want to support the worker? Have them vote to decertify and replace it with something pro-worker

The UAW as an organization is a corrupt pile of shit. They exist to perform dog and pony shows for the US CoC and force bad deals down their members throats.

Want to support the worker? Have them vote to decertify and replace it with something pro-worker

^ Bootlicker

The UAW, as an organization, serves the corporate interests (CoC, piece of shit Paul Ryan when he was a rep... etc) and not the worker. That should be obvious.

Instead of "awww shucks! Better take the deal! It's the best we could do!" why wasn't the UAW working towards ending the industrial partnerships that China demands in exchange for market access? Anyone with a brain could see the endgame and where it leads...but here we are. How about closed markets like S. Korea? Why did GM have to purchase Daewoo and rebadge Chevy's for years for access there?

Yet, here we are.

legitimate good workers unknowingly take huge income hits being a part of a union. hard pass.

If I were in the UAW I would want a raise after only getting two over the last 10 years, but no matter how this comes out for them, I fear they're playing a losing game for several reasons:

1. The more they make, the more attractive it's going to become to move these jobs elsewhere;
2. Most people I know under the age of 40 would never even consider buying a car from the Big 3;
3. Automation, robots, and AI are going to decrease auto worker jobs over time; and
4. I'm assuming that they make more than workers building the Camry in Kentucky, the Accord in Ohio, or the Sonata in Alabama, but is
their finished product any better? If they want a premium in pay they should add value over what other automakers get from their
workers, and I'm not sure that they do.

These workers have to know that this career path is dwindling quickly for reasons that are larger than this contract negotiation, and that these forces are not going to stop anytime soon.

SOOOO shortsighted.

There was no middle class before unions and there won't be after unions.

Some hard truths in there. Still....gotta fight for it and then make plans to get out. Easier said than done, since changing careers for the average person is about as easy as MJ taking on baseball.

SOOOO shortsighted.

There was no middle class before unions and there won't be after unions.

The UAW was a large reason the federal government had to save the Big 3 from going away. I won't root for them now.

My prediction is that the white-collar professional jobs are next. They'll fire you and hire two replacements at half the cost.

It probably already happens unless you have very special industry specific experience.

Lastly, the union needs to let go of the "sanitation" situation altogether. That was a joke since I was a kid about how Detroit is fucked because a guy pushing a broom makes 60K with a pension. Contract that shit out like everyone else and treat the people that actually make carts, parts etc fairly.

The UAW was a large reason the federal government had to save the Big 3 from going away. I won't root for them now.

Are you aware those loans were paid back in full, with interest, and early?

Why is it hard to "root" for collective bargaining?

Unless you're easily replaced, an individual should have no problem negotiating his own raises and benefits.

Why should someone get automatic raises? Why should 50 people with the same title all get paid the same if their performances are different? Why should tenure dictate who gets paid more?

This is the era of Glassdoor. Social media. Company exposes. Unions are archaic. They are rackets.

Are you aware those loans were paid back in full, with interest, and early?

Why is it hard to "root" for collective bargaining?

I have no problem with the loans. I have a problem with the fact that the UAW caused them to be needed based on not accepting that the economics had changed in the auto industry.

The Big 3 had no chance having to provide compensation like it was the 1950s with no real foreign competition and having to beg to be able to automate things in their factories.

Plenty of blame to go around here....this is a mess where BRICK, Nardi, IMU, and 312Player are all correct.

Let it go. These are your fellow Americans. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater